Why Doesn't Flash Work On iPhone?

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  1. wrkactjob macrumors 65816

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    Is there a technical reason?....will it on the new iPhone?..is it just software? ie will older iPhones be flash enabled with a software upgrade?
     
  2. Vandam500 macrumors 68000

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    Apple is not allowing it because they say its too unstable and drains your battery too much.
     
  3. rerelease macrumors regular

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    It's because Adobe sucks at porting their mess to OS X.
     
  4. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    Prior to 2010, yes, it really was technical. Flash was just bad on mobile devices. Hardly any cell phones had it.

    Apple did not want Flash on the iPhone for a variety of business reasons, but it was easier to just say "it sucks" and not elaborate.

    Of course, now mobile Flash is getting better...other phones are adding it soon. Apple's excuse will soon evaporate, but their real behind-the-scenes reasons haven't changed. So they're starting to change to talk about the web being open and HTML 5 being the future and so on.

    So the short answer is, don't expect to EVER see Flash on the iPhone. Technically it COULD happen, but I really, really don't expect it.
     
  5. wrkactjob thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks...I see, I guess that will also apply for the new iPad as well, bit embarrassing seeing that being demonstrated with a BBC News page and the little messsage being shown about Flash not being available for the device.
     
  6. dsnort macrumors 68000

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    Flash implementation on Macs has been embarrassingly bad on Macs for years. When it comes to Flash on Macs, Adobe has always taken a "so what" approach.

    It's nice to hear Flash will be better on mobile devices in 2010, 3 years after the iPhone was released and has been selling well with out it.

    I think Flash could show up on Apple portables, but probably not until Adobe steps up to the plate with regards to implementation on Mac platforms.
     
  7. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Adobe wants in, Apple doesn't.
    Hope they come out with a safe and stable mobile version of flash that won't eat up your battery or crash the browser or cause problems.
    And offcourse a way to disable it for when not needed.
     
  8. TheSpaz macrumors 604

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    Because it does not contain a compatible flash player plugin.
     
  9. dissdnt macrumors 65816

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    All of that bs Apple puts out is clearly that, bs. They don't want flash because it will interfere with there app delivery system.

    They don't want people developing app type applications in flash and bypass there app store.

    There is really no other reason.

    I'm actually surprised how bad Apple treats Adobe when Adobe basically saved the Mac by putting there product suite on there platform.
     
  10. pknz macrumors 68020

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    It's bs that Flash is poorly implemented on Mac OS X?

    Hah!
     
  11. anonymous guy macrumors 6502a

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    it's apparently due to performance and battery issues. But restricting flash seems to be a way to protect the app store, since most of their games are glorified (or even ported) flash games.
     
  12. dissdnt macrumors 65816

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    Poorly implemented how? I see flash on every site I visit, I don't see an issue. Because Apple "claims" most of there browser crashes are related to Flash? Please sir.
     
  13. rerelease macrumors regular

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    Yeah, I love flash on my MacBook. It's great to hear the fans winding up every time I watch something on youtube for more than three minutes.
     
  14. pknz macrumors 68020

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    Flash performance on the same hardware running Mac OS X is much worse than running on Windows XP through to 7.
     
  15. Hmac macrumors 68020

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    A review of Activity Monitor while playing Flash illustrates shows why it has tended to suck on mobile devices.
     
  16. dsnort macrumors 68000

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    On Windows, Flash achieves Hardware Acceleration by directly accessing the CPU and RAM.

    Being based on UNIX, neither Mac OS X nor Linux allows any program that level of access.

    Good thing too. Flash vulnerabilities are a very large part of the on going security issues seen in Windows.
     
  17. Alchematron macrumors 65816

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    I did not know that

    Ouch reality sets in
     
  18. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    I still wonder why Apple doesn't create their own Flash interpreter (or at least a Flash media player plug-in).
     
  19. LinMac macrumors 65816

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    Because open source implementations of Flash (a moving target) still lag behind by a wide magin?

    Look at gnash and read up on it.

    That was only implemented under Flash 10.1 and only plays a part when playing h.264 video when using certain video cards. Flash consumes 15% - 25% CPU while idle (showing no video or interacting with content) and there is no excuse for that. There are ways to implement it under Linux, but they don't care enough to.

    I, for one, am happy to see Flash on the way out just like I was happy ActiveX died a painful death.
     
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    Or, you know, ignore the money Microsoft invested and Office:Mac...
     
  21. STEVESKI07 macrumors 68000

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    Apple can't even get Flash to work on their desktop's without straining the system. We definitely won't ever see it on the iPhone.
     
  22. jzuena macrumors 6502a

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    You mean Adobe can't even get Flash to work on Macs without straining the system. Apple has no hand in writing or supporting the code for Flash. Apple probably told them to fix Flash on OSX first, then they can talk about whether it will go onto the iPhone.
     
  23. Minimoose 360 macrumors 65816

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    Flash doesn't work on ANY platform...........work well at least.


    :p
     
  24. Interstella5555 macrumors 603

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    Have you ever actually used Flash on OS X?
     
  25. alphaod macrumors Core

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    Flash works very well on my cell phone and certainly the latest beta has hardware acceleration on my netbook. What's not to like about 1080p flash video playback on the netbook without even requiring a fan.
     

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