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Other Why doesn't iPhone Pro lineup get Apple's M-series chip?
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I won't be surprised if they do eventually put a low power M series derivative into iPhone just for marketing purposes. All the decent product designers left the building and there's only so many times thinner bezels and an even uglier camera cluster can sell the same phone.
From a technical point of view that is exactly what they are already doing. They could have given the A17 Pro a different name, like M3 Lite. But they didn't.
Yeah I wondered if that may already be the case. Thanks for confirming. Leaves the door wide open for an easy marketing win 👍
M4 Nano.
I'm not an expert on CPUs or SoCs but I think they are "basically the same" but obviously A series is just lower powered/smaller die. They could rebrand the A18 to the M3 Mini/Lite/SE/Nano if they wanted.
I don't think iPhones need an M3 or M4 in them. The iPad gets M series and hardly makes use of it so it'd be even more of a waste putting it in an iPhone. The MacBook Air probably doesn't take full advantage of the M3 either because of the passive cooling/thermal throttling.
The rumors of Apple releasing cheaper MacBooks probably suggests that they will not come with M series chips but could perhaps even run A series like the iPhone Pro Max
I don't think iPhones need an M3 or M4 in them. The iPad gets M series and hardly makes use of it so it'd be even more of a waste putting it in an iPhone. The MacBook Air probably doesn't take full advantage of the M3 either because of the passive cooling/thermal throttling.
The rumors of Apple releasing cheaper MacBooks probably suggests that they will not come with M series chips but could perhaps even run A series like the iPhone Pro Max
It isn’t M3 lite with it’s NPU twice as powerful as M3’s.
The M-series package is too large to physically fit on the iPhone logic board. A-series chips use InFO-PoP packaging which means the DRAM sits beneath the SoC.
M-series chips have the DRAM on the same substrate as the SoC which means it gets the necessary cooling for the high speed memory.
You won’t see M-series in iPhone, not until there’s foldables or something with a big logic board.
M-series chips have the DRAM on the same substrate as the SoC which means it gets the necessary cooling for the high speed memory.
You won’t see M-series in iPhone, not until there’s foldables or something with a big logic board.
To give everyone an idea of how little space there is, the M3 package is about 50% larger in width and height.
By that argument the A9X is not an upgrade over the A9 because it hasn't got an L3 cache?
The iPhone is a design classic. It doesn't need to change.
I don't remember seeing anybody on the Colarumors forums wanting the iconic coca-cola bottle to be redesigned.
Probably because the iPhone Body is just too small to fit m chip? And i dont think 4000 mah battery is enough to manage the m series. For sure it would overheat and overkill for an iPhone which lacks desktop site/iPad designed apps in the first place.
Every comment and reply that I read regarding an M-series chip won’t fit into an iPhone is a laughable comment. Processors can be “scaled” to the choice of the product and application. It’s a RISC ARM chip that can add or remove cores to satisfy the product. An M-series chip can be placed in an iPhone, but Apple has made the choice not to make this a reality. People who think that an M-series chip can not work an iPhone are the same people who believe and justify that 8GB is plenty for a laptop in 2024. Generally they will go along with the messaging.
They can place an M-Series chip into an iPhone however it won’t perform the same as a regular M-Series chip.
Power consumption has to be limited.
And thats exactly what they have done, it’s called the A17 Pro chip as Basic75 stated earlier.
Yes. Higher wattage means quicker battery drain along with more heat production. iPhones have tiny batteries compared to M1 MacBooks and iPads along with small chassis which are unable to dissipate heat very well due to small heatsinks vs larger ones found in M1 products.