When you're paying 1000+ pounds for a "Pro" laptop, in what world is an integrated HD 4000 good enough?
When you're paying 1000+ pounds for a "Pro" laptop, in what world is an integrated HD 4000 good enough?
People had to be mad to buy the first iteration of the 13" rMBP. Especially with the limited HD 4000 on board. Thankfully the HD 5xxx series looks to give a healthy performance boost.
There are literaly 100 threads in this topic. Short answer: because there is no room for one.
really....you should do some reading on graphics cards.
HD4000 is great for the 13"
i play crysis 3 on it just fine.
i bet you have not even used a HD4000.
There are literaly 100 threads in this topic. Short answer: because there is no room for one.
However the last reason they don't is that they want you to pay more for the 15".
Ya think?The only issue with a discrete GPU in a 13" chassis is cooling.
Ya think?
I'd rather forego the serious games on a 13 inch laptop, have something that is light and travels well plus, gives great battery life. In other words, use it for what it was made for.
Oh wait... I have that.![]()
I've no doubt Crysis 3 will run on HD 4000, but it runs appallingly at a very low level of performance.
I have HD 4000 built-in to my ThinkPad at work, not that I use it for any kind of gaming because it's pointless when I have a decent PC rig at home for proper PC gaming.
I suggest you also do some reading on "graphics cards". You'll notice HD 4000 won't get a mention as it's not a discrete chip.
You are only kidding & deluding yourself if you think HD 4000 is "great" for gaming on a rMBP. It's rubbish for intensive 3D gaming at a high resolution. Fact.
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That's just BS though. Plenty of other vendors manage to pack a descrete GPU inside machines with a 13" footprint. Sony did it with the Z series up until 2010, so they were doing it years ago!
The only issue with a discrete GPU in a 13" chassis is cooling. My Vaio Z which I still have can get very hot when under load.
Steve121178;17295999 That's just BS though. Plenty of other vendors manage to pack a descrete GPU inside machines with a 13" footprint. Sony did it with the Z series up until 2010 said:Well, then be a charm, go look at the 13" MBP mainboard and tell us where you want to put the discrete GPU there. As you are at it, you can also tell us how to magically increase the battery so autonomous usage does not go into the gutter. One more thing, maybe you would care to explain why Sony does not use discrete GPUs in the Z series any more?
However the last reason they don't is that they want you to pay more for the 15".
That's the only reason right there. These kinds of decisions always come down to money. Technical issues can be solved. If Apple really wanted to release a 13" MBP with a discrete GPU, they would have done it.
It's the exact same reason why the 13" MBP doesn't have a quad-core CPU and the Mac Mini doesn't have a discrete GPU. They need to give consumers enough reasons to go for the more expensive products.
That's the only reason right there. These kinds of decisions always come down to money. Technical issues can be solved. If Apple really wanted to release a 13" MBP with a discrete GPU, they would have done it.
Totally agree!! They want to differentiate the 15 model from the 13 inch version
No,a discreet GPU in the 13'' would imply a smaller battery that would also deplete faster due to the use of the discreet GPU and since the MBP is in aluminium you'd also get it to pretty hot temperatures.
They could have made it slightly bigger and slightly heavier. Apple built the new rmbps with portability first and performance second. Some people like laptops that are made with those priorities the other way around. Since I am one of those people I just have to accept that I am not in Apple's target demographic for their hardware.
what ?
when did i say it was great for gaming ? , it runs games fine , stop spreading bs around.
hows the gaming rig treating you ? , how much that run you ?
probably a lot more then what i have into mine....NOTHING.
have fun with your expensive desktop, ill be enjoying my HD4000.
sheesh....people these days
Well, then be a charm, go look at the 13" MBP mainboard and tell us where you want to put the discrete GPU there.
As you are at it, you can also tell us how to magically increase the battery so autonomous usage does not go into the gutter. One more thing, maybe you would care to explain why Sony does not use discrete GPUs in the Z series any more?