Sounds like all you need is a proper network connection to the cloud. Are McD and your home the only useable WiFi networks for you?
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iPhone XR Why doesn’t the iPhone allow iCloud backup or software updates over mobile networks
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Sounds like all you need is a proper network connection to the cloud. Are McD and your home the only useable WiFi networks for you?
I wish we could backup over mobile. At the same time, a mobile connection isn’t always as stable as WiFi.And using an unstable mobile connection can screw up an ongoing update process. You also have people who have limited cell plans, and if such was allowed, many parents would be up in arms with Apple, all because said parents didn’t do their job and make sure the kiddos weren’t going over the monthly limit.
It is a shame that we (mature and responsible adults) don’t have the option to use cellular. And if messes up our phone, we will deal with it.
It is a shame that we (mature and responsible adults) don’t have the option to use cellular. And if messes up our phone, we will deal with it.
If a Mac is tethered to an iPhone via wifi to allow it a connection to the Internet, another different iPhone can be plugged into the Mac with a USB cable and its software (the iPhone plugged into the Mac) can be updated via iTunes. It doesn't need a SIM card. In fact iTunes will ask you if you want to update the iPhone's software every time it's plugged in.
That is correct. For quite a few years tethering wasn’t allowed by many carriers simply because they wanted to sell as many separate data plans as possible.
These are all the exact things I was thinking. Even better make it a temporary toggle that only lasts maybe an hour or whatever is reasonable to finish the backup/download, or even smarter where it turns back off when the transaction is completed.
Not sure who you mean by that. Those who are the paying clients of a wireless service?
Agreed with this. I have tons of data on my current network contract, more than enough to do backups and updates on 4G if ever needed.
Exactly, absolutely agreed!
Love the idea of the times toggle.
It’s hilarious how Apple has a feature like Wi-Fi Assist which in itself could absolutely ruin your data plan, but doesn’t allow us to manually toggle using 4G for Backups and Updates, LOL!
I don’t understand why people are even arguing against getting this feature? It’s like the same people who argued against having Video Recording and 3G in iPhones when they first launched, it’s always so bizarre to me how there are such hardcore Apple zealots who are so hell bent on simply following what Apple tell them, nothing wrong with people wanting more out of their iPhones at all.
I remember early last year someone was on this forum arguing against iPhones getting bigger batteries and suggesting people simply lug around powerbanks
luckily Apple did not listen to that nonsense and gave us larger batteries which are amazing.With Apple adding widgets and other customizations in iOS I think we may one day get that toggle to use Data Network for updates and backups.
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Thanks for your comment. Totally agree
With you. Shocked today that Apple does not allow this. I have an unlimited data plan but no WiFi. Sad.
If anybody knows some worksrounds other than waiting for a fix, I would be
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Agreed with this. I have tons of data on my current network contract, more than enough to do backups and updates on 4G if ever needed.
Exactly, absolutely agreed!
Love the idea of the times toggle.
It’s hilarious how Apple has a feature like Wi-Fi Assist which in itself could absolutely ruin your data plan, but doesn’t allow us to manually toggle using 4G for Backups and Updates, LOL!
I don’t understand why people are even arguing against getting this feature? It’s like the same people who argued against having Video Recording and 3G in iPhones when they first launched, it’s always so bizarre to me how there are such hardcore Apple zealots who are so hell bent on simply following what Apple tell them, nothing wrong with people wanting more out of their iPhones at all.
I remember early last year someone was on this forum arguing against iPhones getting bigger batteries and suggesting people simply lug around powerbanksluckily Apple did not listen to that nonsense and gave us larger batteries which are amazing.
With Apple adding widgets and other customizations in iOS I think we may one day get that toggle to use Data Network for updates and backups.
Thanks for your comment. Totally agree
With you. Shocked today that Apple does not allow this. I have an unlimited data plan but no WiFi. Sad.
If anybody knows some worksrounds other than waiting for a fix, I would be
Glad.
Shared resource. Think internet slowing to a crawl because the neighbor's kid is torrenting.
I typically get 2-10Mbps on LTE in my area so there's really not much bandwidth to spare here.
You can perform OS updates over cellular. Doing an iCloud backup over cellular still isn't supported, although you could probably get it to work using tether / hotspot mode from another device.
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Check: https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/ic...-over-cellular-mobile-data-without-wifi/23448
I tried it out.
Hotspot from an android device works (since the iphone thinks it is a normal wifi)
But Hotspot from an Iphone to iphone does not work (since the iophone knows the internet just comes from mobile data). It is really frustating in times of camping with unlimited mobile data for a fixed price for example... So apple wants me to carry an android device with me when Im outside?...
Thank you for your answer. I wrote my further observations in an other forum.
Check: https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/ic...-over-cellular-mobile-data-without-wifi/23448
I tried it out.
Hotspot from an android device works (since the iphone thinks it is a normal wifi)
But Hotspot from an Iphone to iphone does not work (since the iophone knows the internet just comes from mobile data). It is really frustating in times of camping with unlimited mobile data for a fixed price for example... So apple wants me to carry an android device with me when Im outside?...
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It is much easier to do a backup prior to going camping. It would be nice if Apple offered backup over cellular for those that make use of iCloud backup. For security purposes. I prefer to keep backups local.
I am going full icloud. We are camping here for 6 months. We have electricity and mobile data antenna. no need to go into the city we have it all here. I am doing the backup before anyway, but that doesnt helpme much now.
Finally they re partially adressing this new issue with IOS 15 (check the detailed updates):
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What i wonder is, whether this function will only be available if hte phon eis connected to 5g.
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Enhanced connectivity on 5G
More app and system experiences are enhanced by faster 5G connectivity, including support to back up to iCloud and restore from an iCloud backup, stream audio and video on Apple and third-party apps, download higher-quality Apple TV+ content, sync photos to iCloud Photos, update Apple News+ articles for offline reading, and download machine learning models.15 only for iphone 12"What i wonder is, whether this function will only be available if hte phon eis connected to 5g.
In Settings - Cellular, there's an option to Allow More Data on 5G so I think this will be restricted to when when the device is connected to 5G.
I could imagoine Apple doing that, in order sell more 5g iPhones as this feature is iPhone 12 only now... It is still bothering me, because we dont have 5G everyhhere in the world. It would be sitll ncie if the youcl allow LTE icloud backup...
Where I use cellular most, LTE is often 2-3 Mbps from 9AM-5PM. I don't even want to imagine what QoS would be like if everyone just started using LTE for iCloud backups.
Sure.
However, the point is existing LTE networks can't handle the load just yet if everyone that had an iPhone started loading the network with automated multi-GB firmware updates and iCloud backups. There's a reason carriers throttle video streaming even on unlimited data plans.
I see, but why other manufactorers like android allow backups than. And why does apple allow photos backup over mobile dat (jsu thtink of lots of GB videos)?
I know Apple does allow iCloud photo sync but at least on my devices, the videos generally don't get uploaded until I get home and am on wi-fi. I used to have a 20GB then 35GB cap shared amongst 4 devices so that would've been disastrous.
Iirc, I've actually had to manually trigger iCloud photo sync when on LTE. Something like allow sync for 1 hour.
Things have always been more open on Android.