Why doesn't Woz have anything to do with Apple?

MattMJB0188

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Am I missing something? He's one of the founders? Steve was CEO, so why can't he be involved with Apple? A few weeks back there was an article on him because he was at a Google event? I also read that he and Jobs and a huge blowout? Anyone care to clear this up? Thanks
 

soco

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He is one of the founders, but no longer has anything critical to do with the company. He could, if he wanted to, take some role. It would be very very minimal though as at this point he is a low man of the totem pole.

It's the way of business. Just because you were there at the beginning, doesn't mean you mean much in the end. He'll always be the core of that company in the sense that he built it with his bare hands, literally. Unfortunately though, times changed and so did positions.

Just look at how much Jobs' position changed over the years. He got kicked out for Christs sake lol
 

verwon

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Google it, or read the Jobs book, it's all out there. He was in line to get a 4S on launch day.
 

MattMJB0188

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He is one of the founders, but no longer has anything critical to do with the company. He could, if he wanted to, take some role. It would be very very minimal though as at this point he is a low man of the totem pole.

It's the way of business. Just because you were there at the beginning, doesn't mean you mean much in the end. He'll always be the core of that company in the sense that he built it with his bare hands, literally. Unfortunately though, times changed and so did positions.

Just look at how much Jobs' position changed over the years. He got kicked out for Christs sake lol
Yeah I know Steve was kicked out, but he came back. Wouldn't make sense if Woz was involved with Cook?
 

Small White Car

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Why should he be? When he left Apple the main reason was that Apple had gotten too big and too business-y for his tastes.

It's safe to say that over the last 20 years it's only gotten more so.
 

soco

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Why should he be? When he left Apple the main reason was that Apple had gotten too big and too business-y for his tastes.

It's safe to say that over the last 20 years it's only gotten more so.
Exactly. He didn't even like how business-y it was on day 1 when Steve suggested selling the Apple 1 lol
 

rdowns

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Other than some nostalgia thing, what would Woz bring to the table? He's essentially been a geek with big bucks for the past 25 years.
 

neiltc13

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I agree! He could be a part of Apple but he isn't - he must be crazy! Apple is the best company ever! :confused:
 

THX1139

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Woz has been out of the engineering field for years. He's been living off Apple residuals and the occasional speaking fee. He's out of touch with the industry other than to collect gadgets and loaf around being a geek. He's not driven to excel like Steve was, and he doesn't care if he's filthy rich as long as he can afford gadgets and not have to work. Sounds like a good life! Steve, on the other hand, really never left the industry. When he got kicked out of Apple, he went on to other ventures, until he was lured back in the early 2000's. He's always been driven to success and is a strong compassionate leader.

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I agree! He could be a part of Apple but he isn't - he must be crazy! Apple is the best company ever! :confused:
Technically, he is a part of Apple. He collects a paycheck (stipend) and lives off the stock. Imagine getting paid to work for a company, but not actually have to do any work? That's Woz.
 

chrono1081

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Woz is too geeky for Apple to contain :p

I see him as a reverse Santa Clause. He rides around on a segway instead of a sleigh and grabs all the gadgets he can on their release days.
 

Bonch

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Woz has been out of the engineering field for years. He's been living off Apple residuals and the occasional speaking fee. He's out of touch with the industry other than to collect gadgets and loaf around being a geek. He's not driven to excel like Steve was, and he doesn't care if he's filthy rich as long as he can afford gadgets and not have to work. Sounds like a good life! Steve, on the other hand, really never left the industry. When he got kicked out of Apple, he went on to other ventures, until he was lured back in the early 2000's. He's always been driven to success and is a strong compassionate leader.
When Steve was kicked out he went to form Next, which became the foundation for Mac OSX when Apple bought it. So in a sense, he never really left "Apple", at least not the idea of it.
 

maflynn

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Woz was the brains behind the apple I and II, he himself admitted that he had little desire to sell the computer but it was Jobs that had the vision to start selling a whole computer to people instead of a logic board that woz designed.

I'm not saying he's not gifted, he created something great, but he's an engineer that loves to tinker, not a business man who wants to run a business
 

Drunken Master

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Sounds like Woz's dreams were more attuned to his personal gadget interests:

"I never quit Apple. That suggestion was based on an incorrect Wall Street Journal that said I was leaving Apple because I didn't like things there. Actually, I had told the Wall Street Journal writer that I wasn't leaving Apple because of things that I didn't like and that I wasn't even leaving, keeping my small salary forever as a loyal employee. I just wanted a small startup experience and a chance to design a smaller product again, a universal remote control."
 

zap2

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Why? Because he doesn't want to be involved.
Yup, he's had interviews where he has made it clear he likes being on the outside and seeing what the come up with when it's done. He doesn't using his position to get things early, because he likes the experience of it.

I think he still has an office and get paid from them, but it's nothing major.

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Why would he want to work? He has enough money to last him and his extended family the rest of his life and then some...
To be fair, he does want to work...but spending most of his energy and time on smaller project from smaller companies. It's a preference thing, but he is still on Apple's payroll and clearly is a fan.
 
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