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I personally like the original feel to a photo and only will edit for simple tasks such as brightness, contrast, and some cropping. I don't normally edit photos since Mr. Powershot does a good job with picture taking and certainly the best camera I have ever owned. I will edit when absolutely necessary since I prefer the original touch to a photo to make it more legit. As I have mentioned before I don't care too much for the way many abuse photoshop on FB. For example a liar played with photoshop and made a Rolex watch appear on Gandalf in one of the LOTR's films to make it appear like a film blunder. I hate this type of use of photoshop.

So why do you edit photos and if so do you edit every photo that you take?
 
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Ever since photography was invented it has been able to be edited in one way or another. With modern equipment it’s just easier to do for the layperson. It’s an art - photography. You can do what you feel you need to do re edits. Shooting raw, it’s a necessity. Shooting jpeg, it’s done for you. I know what I prefer.

Regarding Photoshop and the sort of editing you’re referring to, well - there is a huge difference in the type of editing done. I often remove elements, fag butts or gum on the pavement, etc. I don’t believe that’s something to be frowned upon, depending on the result required.

Editing to create a different reality isn’t bad per se, it’s art. Editing to create fake news - that’s a terrible practice but again, came well before Photoshop. It’s also part of the territory. I don’t really like it when people assume that ‘editing bad’ just because they don’t understand the concept. If you ask me, it’s the artists choice that should determine the consumer opinion of it.

Editing a photo and proclaiming it’s something that it’s not to further some agenda is never good, however, it’s not a reflection on the practice in general.
 
If you are taking pictures in JPG any of the pictures is not only compressed, but also « improved », typically by the parameters realted to the scene mode that you have chosen, otherwise by some internal logic to the camera.

If you are taking pictures in RAW, you get what the scensor receives as lights. However the pivcture that you get is not compressed.

While you can still edit JPG pictures, it may create unwanted artefacts in the picture.

So, why editing photos:
I would differentiate four different ways of editing:
1/ brightness, sharpness, color saturation, white balance:
Provided that you set your camera to save as a RAW picture you are doing what the camera would do anyhow.
The big difference is that YOU take the control of how the picture shall look. This will also be true if you edit a JPG camera when it comes out of the camera

2/ cropping and leveling
Will be needed if the picture composition was not possible to be ideal or you have a sealevel that is not horizontal

3/ vignette and blurring
Allows to guide the viewers eye to the main subject

4/ removing/adding objects from a picture
Removing objects (fi cables) from a picture can improve the picture - adding objects is a different story

In any case, as @soulreaver99 mentioned, taking pictures is an art unless you are doing photojournalism, and an art needs individual investment/effort to give it the artist’s signature.
 
In addition to what the others have said, I would point out the editi starts when the photographer picks up the camera.

deciding where to point the camera, what to include in the frame, and what to miss out are all editing decisions.

’Pictures on a Page’ by Harold Evans should be on every photographer’s reading list
 
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Ever since photography was invented it has been able to be edited in one way or another. With modern equipment it’s just easier to do for the layperson. It’s an art - photography. You can do what you feel you need to do re edits. Shooting raw, it’s a necessity. Shooting jpeg, it’s done for you. I know what I prefer.

Regarding Photoshop and the sort of editing you’re referring to, well - there is a huge difference in the type of editing done. I often remove elements, fag butts or gum on the pavement, etc. I don’t believe that’s something to be frowned upon, depending on the result required.

Editing to create a different reality isn’t bad per se, it’s art. Editing to create fake news - that’s a terrible practice but again, came well before Photoshop. It’s also part of the territory. I don’t really like it when people assume that ‘editing bad’ just because they don’t understand the concept. If you ask me, it’s the artists choice that should determine the consumer opinion of it.

Editing a photo and proclaiming it’s something that it’s not to further some agenda is never good, however, it’s not a reflection on the practice in general.
Well explained. Yes as I said I occasionally edit, but since I have no experience with RAW I would not know what you are talking about.
 
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When I first picked up my first manual camera, a Sony NEX C3 (this applies to point and shoot as well), I had no clue what I was doing, what ISO, Aperture, framing, and let alone what RAW was. I shot photos with whatever smart phone or point and shoot I had at the time.

I spent time and read through this https://lifehacker.com/basics-of-photography-the-complete-guide-5815742 - it's free. And I was actually trying (and failed many times) to imitate the shots people here have posted, but it took a lot of practice, observation, and asking Google Sensei a billion questions on photography and photo editing.

Just had to share my story. k bye.
 
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why did i post a photo in the daily thread?
to entertain people and let em' know there is special life out there
yes i cropped out the under branch, enhanced the Heron and gave the bird more detail
so i could entertain people.
which i will never do that again.
 
because if i don’t edit them, i have to shoot jpeg (which as mentioned loses details) and then the camera edits for me.

my photo = my vision = my voice = my unique view of the world.

i don’t want my photos to look like anyone else’s.
 
I started with a fully manual Nikon FM and black and white. I did my own development and part of the enjoyment was not knowing how my shots and experimentation with light, speed, aperture and composure would turn out until after the film was developed. In an effort to avoid waste, it forced me to take my time, and be somewhat selective.

Yes, I did crop, burn and play with exposure time when developing printer. I considered that to be part of taking pictures. I find, though, with the instant gratification of digital, and the slew of post-processing techniques available today, it's an entirely different venture. In some cases, it encourages people to take pictures of everything, and rely more on post processing. That's something I never quite got the hang of and it seems there's a new creative type that likes to develop digital workflows and might require a different sort of creative eye/mind.

I'm not saying this newer art form is worse, but it is different, and admittedly, despite extensive effort and investment over the years, one that never quite pulled me in like the original format did.
 
I started with a fully manual Nikon FM and black and white. I did my own development and part of the enjoyment was not knowing how my shots and experimentation with light, speed, aperture and composure would turn out until after the film was developed. In an effort to avoid waste, it forced me to take my time, and be somewhat selective.

Yes, I did crop, burn and play with exposure time when developing printer. I considered that to be part of taking pictures. I find, though, with the instant gratification of digital, and the slew of post-processing techniques available today, it's an entirely different venture. In some cases, it encourages people to take pictures of everything, and rely more on post processing. That's something I never quite got the hang of and it seems there's a new creative type that likes to develop digital workflows and might require a different sort of creative eye/mind.

I'm not saying this newer art form is worse, but it is different, and admittedly, despite extensive effort and investment over the years, one that never quite pulled me in like the original format did.
I'd agree. Back in the film camera days I DID NOT take a picture of everything as it cost me money to buy and develop film. Back in those days most of my film was developed at Costco since they were cheaper, but these days many photo printing places are gone, and you probably have to mail in a film roll if you can find one.

When I take a trip perhaps my mind still thinks I am using film because rarely do I ever take more than 36 shots, while many on this board would have taken hundreds of shots on the same type of trip.

Perhaps this is why some here have criticized me for using a USB cable over a SD Card reader. In my case a SD card reader would not be needed and would be overkill.
 
Our eyes are amazing devices. They can see a huge range of brightnes(dynamic range) at a given time, and are quite sensitive in low light. The computer behind them(our brains) plays a huge role in how we perceive something we see, and also the emotions it invokes.

Cameras, on the other hand, are sterile devices. They capture what is before them, nothing more and nothing less. Many cameras do have baked in biases, whether it is in the way the film emulsion is set up or in the filter array over the sensor or spectral sensitivity of photosites, etc. None the less, they capture the "true" color of the scene, only a certain amount of DR, and all the like.

When I look at a photo I've taken, I want to take myself back to being there.

Out of necessity, I must edit photos. I want to feel what I saw when I was looking at the scene. I want it to be a faithul reproduction of what my eyes saw.

Sometimes that takes some even more complicated tricks like masking and adjusting the exposure in a certain area, or yes maybe I remove something that I just didn't see there(the latter is unusual).

Still, though, I will not show an unedited photo.

BTW, dirty little secret-all digital photos are edited. If you shoot JPEGs on your CaNikOnyFilmUs camera, you are relying on a team of folks over in Japan to make your photos look the way you think they should look.

If I take a RAW photo and pull it into Lightroom, I have complete control over how that RAW file(which is just the 1s and 0s of sensor data) is shown as a final image. Yes, often I start with an in-camera interpretation(since Lightroom defaults generally to rendering things like the white balance and saturation set in-camera) but that's really only a suggestion or a starting point for me to do what I want. Sometimes it gets a small tweak, and sometimes the end result looks nothing at all like that.
 
Our eyes are amazing devices. They can see a huge range of brightnes(dynamic range) at a given time, and are quite sensitive in low light. The computer behind them(our brains) plays a huge role in how we perceive something we see, and also the emotions it invokes.

Cameras, on the other hand, are sterile devices. They capture what is before them, nothing more and nothing less. Many cameras do have baked in biases, whether it is in the way the film emulsion is set up or in the filter array over the sensor or spectral sensitivity of photosites, etc. None the less, they capture the "true" color of the scene, only a certain amount of DR, and all the like.

When I look at a photo I've taken, I want to take myself back to being there.

Out of necessity, I must edit photos. I want to feel what I saw when I was looking at the scene. I want it to be a faithul reproduction of what my eyes saw.

Sometimes that takes some even more complicated tricks like masking and adjusting the exposure in a certain area, or yes maybe I remove something that I just didn't see there(the latter is unusual).

Still, though, I will not show an unedited photo.

BTW, dirty little secret-all digital photos are edited. If you shoot JPEGs on your CaNikOnyFilmUs camera, you are relying on a team of folks over in Japan to make your photos look the way you think they should look.

If I take a RAW photo and pull it into Lightroom, I have complete control over how that RAW file(which is just the 1s and 0s of sensor data) is shown as a final image. Yes, often I start with an in-camera interpretation(since Lightroom defaults generally to rendering things like the white balance and saturation set in-camera) but that's really only a suggestion or a starting point for me to do what I want. Sometimes it gets a small tweak, and sometimes the end result looks nothing at all like that.
And, an emotional connection to the image seen, sometimes requires post-processing to re-see the emotion in the image.
 
I personally like the original feel to a photo and only will edit for simple tasks such as brightness, contrast, and some cropping. I don't normally edit photos since Mr. Powershot does a good job with picture taking and certainly the best camera I have ever owned. I will edit when absolutely necessary since I prefer the original touch to a photo to make it more legit. As I have mentioned before I don't care too much for the way many abuse photoshop on FB. For example a liar played with photoshop and made a Rolex watch appear on Gandalf in one of the LOTR's films to make it appear like a film blunder. I hate this type of use of photoshop.

So why do you edit photos and if so do you edit every photo that you take?

I don’t even have a photo editor on my device. Native cam app is all
 
Saw this at a goodwill store, Naples Florida just yesterday!
i did not edit this photo
image.jpg
 
Random Highway shooting, seeing the Expos play baseball in Chavez ravine and dating a tall girl in San Mateo were the highlight of that summer, along with biking from Foothill blvd to Figureo Dr daily was fun!
hopefully Austin is more livable for your family.

Haha well lots of fond memories over there though. I think this was one of the first photos I've taken on my NEX C3 with kit lens, and I might have posted it on an old daily photo thread years ago.

Pasadena City Hall

Edited with iPhoto I think!
 
I edit photos because:

1. I thoroughly enjoy it.

2. Raw images can often use touchup. I shoot raw format precisely so I have the latitude to create a better image than OOC JPEGs. Even Powershot JPEGs. Yes, I can use presets (“styles” in the Capture One lingo) but I usually don’t. If I nail exposure, the default renders can look really good too so it’s not like I’ve got to spend time on all images unless I want to.

3. I often print them at home (16x20 or so) and I get far better results if I’m able to adjust tones, colors, sharpness and other attributes to match the types of paper I use.

4. I am a liar and love Photoshop. I will not hesitate to remove or otherwise adjust bits of an image that weren’t part of how I intended it to look.

OP edits his photos too if he’s cropping, adding brightness, contrast or using any other buttons or sliders.
 
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I edit photos because:

1. I thoroughly enjoy it.

2. Raw images can often use touchup. I shoot raw format precisely so I have the latitude to create a better image than OOC JPEGs. Even Powershot JPEGs. Yes, I can use presets (“styles” in the Capture One lingo) but I usually don’t. If I nail exposure, the default renders can look really good too so it’s not like I’ve got to spend time on all images unless I want to.

3. I often print them at home (16x20 or so) and I get far better results if I’m able to adjust tones, colors, sharpness and other attributes to match the types of paper I use.

4. I am a liar and love Photoshop. I will not hesitate to remove or otherwise adjust bits of an image that weren’t part of how I intended it to look.

OP edits his photos too if he’s cropping, adding brightness, contrast or using any other buttons or sliders.
OP also “edits” photos if he is outputting JPEG. It’s just that he’s letting the camera do the editing for him.

It’s still not true “OOC”
 
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OK, I'll bite. My name is Ken and I edit my photographs.

Why do I do it? to enhance the story that I want my photos tell the viewer.

For example:
1: I might brighten the shadows to make it clearer what is going on, or
2: I might darken the shadow to add a bit of mystery, so that the viewer asks questions, is that an animal lurking in the trees or maybe a troll?

more usually to straighten the horizon, I have long had a tendency to tilt left by 1 or 2 degrees.
 
Search the web for Ansel Adams "Moonrise, Hernandez New Mexico" contact print, i.e., straight OOC. Compare that to the finished product. End of thread.

Whoops. Link in next post...
 
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