Why get an iPhone? What am I missing.

[No5tromo]

Other than the iPhone SE being exactly the amount of power I want in the size I really like, there's also the fact that Apple are a company that embodies values that I value: highly innovative, pro-competition, pro-privacy, pro-workers rights, pro-environment, pro-corporate responsibility. I don't know of any other company in the smartphone market that embodies all of these values.

Well the way I see it they don't embody one very important value, that technology should be available to everyone, everywhere and not to the few that can afford expensive stuff. They have done absolutely nothing towards that direction but the exact opposite.

 

[throAU]

Another iPhone feature i find super cool -

my phone can be anywhere in the house. it rings, i can take the call on my mac.

I use this on a regular basis.

 

[mrochester]

Well the way I see it they don't embody one very important value, that technology should be available to everyone, everywhere and not to the few that can afford expensive stuff. They have done absolutely nothing towards that direction but the exact opposite.

I'm not too bothered about that as I live in a country where I can afford an iPhone.

 

[No5tromo]

I'm not too bothered about that as I live in a country where I can afford an iPhone.

I guess that's standard mentality where you live, myself being from another region and working in IT I value technology meant to serve most people rather than "innovation for the few"

 

[Ulenspiegel]

How exactly did I provoke you or others? For not over-praising iPhone? For not having the exact same opinion as you? Why do you even bother replying to trolling? People of the Internet never cease to amaze me.

Why do you bother opening a thread when you already know the answer to your own question? Or do you?
There is no difference in our opinions. As you don't have one. You keep buying Apple products for years and at the same time bashing Apple in almost all your posts since 2012.

What concerns your trolling. I suggest you stick to your own advice:

This whole Apple vs Android fanboys thing is a little tiring for us normal people. Half of the comments are about how Android fanboys will hurt your feelings after this and you are already coming up with how you should fire back. Grow up and get a life! Both sides! The only thing that makes you a representative of either company is a malfunctioning group of cells in your brains.

 

[No5tromo]

Why do you bother opening a thread when you already know the answer to your own question? Or do you?
There is no difference on our opinions. As you don't have one. You keep buying Apple products for years and at the same time bashing Apple in almost all your posts since 2012.

What concerns your trolling. I suggest you stick to your own advice:

You got way too much time in your hands if you go through the comment history of a troll. Thanks for digging that up though since it's consistent with everything I've said so far.

 

[mrochester]

I guess that's standard mentality where you live, myself being from another region and working in IT I value technology meant to serve most people rather than "innovation for the few"

Innovation for the few is usually very valuable as it inevitably filters down to the masses over time.

 

[No5tromo]

Innovation for the few is usually very valuable as it inevitably filters down to the masses over time.

That's true to an extent, but companies like Apple are in for the profit and not much else. They do push innovation further for their own sake and not because spreading technology around the globe is what motivates them. Apple is a rich-people brand and won't bother become anything more any time soon.

 

[mrochester]

That's true to an extent, but companies like Apple are in for the profit and not much else. They do push innovation further for their own sake and not because spreading technology around the globe is what motivates them. Apple is a rich-people brand and won't bother become anything more any time soon.

All companies are in it for the profit, just some are more successful than others.

 

[No5tromo]

All companies are in it for the profit, just some are more successful than others.

Some companies though make a difference. Google has brought technology to everyone with Android, if it was up to Apple they sure as hell wouldn't bother for developing markets, giving one more advantage to rich people and how they communicate.

 

[5105973]

That's true to an extent, but companies like Apple are in for the profit and not much else. They do push innovation further for their own sake and not because spreading technology around the globe is what motivates them. Apple is a rich-people brand and won't bother become anything more any time soon.

If you feel that strongly about it then why on earth did you spend your hard earned money on it?

And really the fact that Apple does make the extra effort to be environmentally conscious and improve workers living standards does impact their expenses and therefore does have to factor into what they charge for each device they sell. By US Law they have an obligation to their shareholders to maximize profits.

Add into that the cost of providing a very high level of customer service in most countries they serve directly. When my husband's friends had problems with their various Android phones they ended up bouncing around in a corporate maze trying to get answers. I know Apple customer service is not readily available in some markets served indirectly through resellers. But where they have a tangible presence, it's going to be better than that of the usual giant corporation.

For a "heartless corporation" they've taken care of my husband and me very well over the past few years.

You know what, we didn't have any money to speak of until we were in our mid thirties. We made do with what we could afford and we didn't whing about it. When we hit a certain point in life where decisions and effort paid off, we bought the things we always dreamed of owning. Simple as that. We never once felt entitled to anything when we had almost nothing and when we had something we gave back to our community.

It never occurred to us that a publicly owned corporation owed it to us to provide us goodies at cost to their investors. Especially not a corporation that is already going above and beyond others for the environment. What the hell is wrong with people these days that they feel entitled to things they haven't paid their dues to earn? When I was 30 it would never have occurred to me that I was owed the same standard of living as my grandparents who slaved and sweat for decades to set themselves where they were at.

 

[mrochester]

Some companies though make a difference. Google has brought technology to everyone with Android, if it was up to Apple they sure as hell wouldn't bother for developing markets, giving one more advantage to rich people and how they communicate.

Absolutely, and the importance of Google making Android accessible to the people who can't afford iPhones should not be underestimated (although I do think Google's predatory pricing of Android is anti-competitive in the long term). It's just like how Apple's contributions shouldn't be underestimated or overlooked.

 

[No5tromo]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread now, this topic has tired me, I got some great answers (thanks for your time) and some terrible, over-defensive ones (pretty expected). Take care all.

 

[bpeeps]

This post was great. OP and everyone feeding him.

 

[5105973]

Yes, by all means retreat to your safe space.

There are many valid reasons to get an Android phone. I'm interested in them myself because they offer intriguing features at good price points and have hardware innovations that grabbed my attention.

But yes, complaining that Apple as a company isn't doing enough to spread high quality technology to the masses and so you're essentially boycotting them (after already buying one of their products) tells me it's not really about altruism but about the fact you couldn't rub your friend's nose in the superiority of your expensive iPhone, based on the criteria you both were using to compare the phones at the time. I'm sure you weren't intentionally trying to do that. But human nature being what it is, I'm sure you wanted to prove that the higher cost you paid was justified and couldn't help but be chagrined when it didn't work out that way.

If you hadn't been personally affronted by that situation, you would have let the thread grow and let people respond before hitting out at people who were trying to answer your question.

The fact is, you had the money to pony up on the iPhone. You're one of the rich kids, by your own reckoning. Now that it didn't go the way you planned, you don't get to retreat behind the poor underprivileged people who can't afford an IPhone. You're not one of them. This isn't your fight and you can't switch in the middle of the discussion and claim that's what it's all about.

 

[Ladybug]

Seems to me the OP was overly defensive himself. Pot meet Kettle...unsubbing was the best decision ever.

 

[mrex]

imessage/facetime? nope. there are apps that work with whatever devices.

handoff when phones ring? nope.. if my phone rings i dont use my laptop or my ipad to answer the call. maybe it is just me, but i like to talk privately and rarely wear headphones at home. useful? definitely for some people but im not one of those.

apple ecosystem? ehmm... not even sure what it means. i have a great "ecosystem " working with ios/osx/win/android - not need to be tied up only around apple devices.

only thing keeps me using iphone/ipad as my primary devices it is that i still think they are more secure than android because google has a quite "loose" policy when considering apps and a privacy. i really hate android apps updates because they tend to ask more and more on every updates. today when installing an app, it has no extra permissions. tomorrow when an update comes it want to read my location, and on the next day, the app wants to get access to my mail and so on... let say the app was a cam app, then there are reasons to ask these permissions, but if the app was a calculator, why an earth the calculator app needs permissions to read my contacts, messages, emails and whatever... this is the thing im using iphone/ipad. not the thing as toyota vs lexus - the more you use ios and try to do other than a simple task the more ios feels you are driving with skoda 100.

i dont think that apple is a brand for rich people. most of the people dont but them with cash anyway... and a reason why they need so badly these so called installment plans, uppgrade programs etc...

i dont think you will miss anything but if you are concerned about the privacy, that would be the thing to think about using iphone.

 

[Sajal]

I personally think that I am paying for the hardware and also for the software (OS)

* Fastest OS updates & bugfixes
* Available Features really work and are actually gradually made better (Touchid, 3d touch, Live Photos) rather than on other phones where the feature comes but due to the granularity never gets backed up by the vendor itself.
* Love the memory management and resource utilization. Yes Android is really working on it, but I never felt the same.

Again an 6 months old app/photos/music loaded iphone feels the same as new (not to mention hardware wear & tear). But I can assure you a 6 months old app/photos/music loaded Android needs a reset badly.

I know I am overpaying when I pay for an iOS device, but hardware isn't everything ..

 

[The Game 161]

Can you at least give me an example of what kind of needs can an iPhone meet that a cheaper Android device can't?

iMessage
syncs with all devices
dependable with no real lag
instant updates
new IOS update straight away
very quick speeds for everyday use and games
safe to use


Just off the top of my head

That said there are some great android phones out there. S7 edge is fantastic by all accounts

When I bought the 6S plus this year it was my first iPhone for 4 years. I had note 4, S5,S6 edge before that and I do miss certain things but it wasn't until the S7 edge came out did I feel wow that's an awesome phone. It's why I've been tempted by it as a 2nd phone but really money wise I can't really afford both and iPhone is more dependable for me due to the fact I have an iPad Pro and MacBook, watch etc

Also you need to factor in here is one big thing

RE SELL VALUE

If I sell my 6S plus before launch for the iPhone 7 I will get at least 200 more for my iPhone than I would with an s7 or s7 edge.

I could only end up paying 250 for a new iPhone 7 if I sell my 6s plus a week before the launch announcement

With the Samsung phones all I got for my s6 edge was at best 250-300

If you are buying android phones and want to sell them? Forget about it

I got only £100 for my note 4 which is barely two years old...android costs you a lot in the long run. iPhones hold their value for a lot longer

One last thing is iCloud backup

If you are like me and have a crap load of apps and passwords connected to sites and apps it is a pain in the ass putting all apps on and where you like them...with each new iPhone it's easy and you are set on your new phone like with your old one

I know android has backup apps now but clearly aren't as great

 

[No5tromo]

Update:

After comparing gaming performance between iPhone 6s and that same Huawei P8 iPhone 6s crapped all over Huawei so the A9 superiority is without a question noticeable. Still not sure if it offers much more to someone like me who doesn't care much about phone gaming, but like some of you suggested I will have to wait and see how both devices cope with extra workload / software additions and updates over the course of 2-3 years. If Apple however doesn't step up their game with iPhone and iOS design and features that will justify the extra cost my next phone purchase will most certainly be Android.

Yes, by all means retreat to your safe space.

I'm sorry but I don't plan to spend the rest of my life debating with oversensitive Apple supporters and after all I got all the information I wanted. I myself don't support or defend any brands because you see I actually like technology.

 

[C DM]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread now, this topic has tired me, I got some great answers (thanks for your time) and some terrible, over-defensive ones (pretty expected). Take care all.

What happened to unsubscribing and being tired of the topic?

 

[I7guy]

I guess that's standard mentality where you live, myself being from another region and working in IT I value technology meant to serve most people rather than "innovation for the few"

Is this standard mentality where you live? Thinking that American for-profit companies should produce a product and litterally give it away so the worlds population can buy it?

Do you say the same about luxury watch makers, luxury car makers, upscale restaurants? If you do, my friend, you have a skewed vision of free enterprise.

 

[5105973]

Update:

After comparing gaming performance between iPhone 6s and that same Huawei P8 iPhone 6s crapped all over Huawei so the A9 superiority is without a question noticeable. Still not sure if it offers much more to someone like me who doesn't care much about phone gaming, but like some of you suggested I will have to wait and see how both devices cope with extra workload / software additions and updates over the course of 2-3 years. If Apple however doesn't step up their game with iPhone and iOS design and features that will justify the extra cost my next phone purchase will most certainly be Android.




I'm sorry but I don't plan to spend the rest of my life debating with oversensitive Apple supporters and after all I got all the information I wanted. I myself don't support or defend any brands because you see I actually like technology.

A discussion of technology and comparing the pros and cons between Apple and Android is fine. That wasn't what I or others were reacting to.

Thank you for returning to this thread and updating us on your conclusions. I'm not so keen on using my iPhone for gaming either. I am more concerned that my device receive all available software updates in a timely manner and that is where I have concerns over Android devices. My friends who have had different Androids have complained that their device longevity was compromised by failures of different carriers to provide timely updates. It will be intersting to compare the longevity of the Huawei P8 to iPhones and to other prominent Android devices in this regard and the impact on resale value. Then you will indeed have a better idea of which gives you the better value.

 

[I7guy]

which only makes me feel like a bigger fool for paying X3 the price just for "imessage" which I barely use since in my country everyone uses viber or fb messenger.

You did ask for one example and then based your argument on paying 3x more just for one feature?
[doublepost=1461425927][/doublepost]

Your burning desire to covet and praise Apple has clouded whatever degree of individual thinking you may or may not possess.

At NO Time have I stated I trust Google with privacy. Apparently that's escaped you.

What I have stated is that the Google Ecosystem is an excellent one, with greater usefulness and relevance than Apple's system that's focused on keeping customers captive. That's Apple's big win, convincing customers that the Cupertino Company will keep them safe at night.

Digital privacy should concern us all, thank you for point out the apple is at the forefront of these efforts and telling customers they are doing so.