Why I am not buying an IPAD

Discussion in 'iPad' started by species5618w, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. species5618w macrumors newbie

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    I have been looking for a light weight laptop for school. The primary uses will be surfing, notes taking, writing papers, online chatting, trivial games and occasionally watch some videos. The budget is around $500. This is mainly to replace my ancient thinkpad 240x, which has mobile pentium III 500mhz, 192M ram, 10 inch screen and weigh about 3lbs.

    I was very impressed by ipad's form factor when I first saw it in store and was almost ready to make a purchase. The battery life is suppose to be amazing too. However, after spending some time with it in store and reading reviews, I can't seem to justify the purchase.

    1. The on-screen keyboard is nice, but still not a physical keyboard especially since you have to hold the ipad using one hand and type using the other. The curved back doesn't help either despite making the ipad look thinner. But the most annoying thing is that auto-correct doesn't work in pages. They mark misspelled words with red lines instead. I asked the girl in the store about it and she tried in vain to type something. Finally she suggested a keyboard attachment, but that's another $80 and another thing I have to lug around. I honestly don't understand why apple wouldn't give me an option to turn auto-correct on or off. Better yet, map the keyboard to the fingers. The 240x is ancient, but it's 95% keyboard + trackpoint is much more comfortable to use.

    2. No multi-tasking. This is mainly an issue for chatting since I usually keep a chat window open in the background. I also need to be able to see two applications at once. I don't think it's possible even with the new IOS 4.0. The 240x has trouble with multi-tasking too due to the small memory size, but at least it can support a chat window + a browser window + a mp3 player.

    3. Slow web speed. This one really shocked me. Safari is suppose to be much faster than Firefox and ipad's hardware is certainly light years ahead the 240x. Yet the 240x beats ipad in sunspider benchmark using firefox! Chrome is even faster although 240x's puny memory can't really handle more than a couple of tabs. Page rendering is also no faster than 240x. All the reviewers keep on saying how much faster ipad is comparing to iphone 3Gs, but who cares. Some people argue that sunspider is useless, but javascript is important for applications like google doc, which leads to my next point.

    4. No Google doc in browser! I know there are applications for it, but google doc is not an online disk. It's meant for the browser. I need it to be consistent cross multiple machines. On the 240x, Firefox becomes sluggish when editing massive spreadsheet, but at least it works.

    5. No firefox. Safari is nice, but no tabbed browsing really kills it. I also don't know whether it can match firefox's extensibility. e.g. noscript.

    6. No Flash support. Flash is a major issue for the 240x. Youtube is basically unwatchable. However, ipad does not support it at all. HTML5 is nice on the paper, but unlike youtube, the majority of flash video site I access will not adopt html5 any time soon.

    7. Can't be used on the bus. Another major issue I have with 240x is that it is difficult to see outside. From what I can see, the ipad is only worse.

    In the end, despite its long battery life, sleek design and polished look, I just don't think ipad can replace my 240x. On the other hand, I couldn't find an affordable netbook that suits my needs either, so I ended up keeping my little 240x. I have XP+Firefox+Office. It's sluggish at times and the battery is dying, but it does what it needs to do grumpily.

    So what do you think? Maybe I am just not the targeted audience for the ipad? Or maybe I just need to adapt to a new way of using computers?
     
  2. appleguy123 macrumors 603

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    The iPAd shouldn't replace a laptop. Multitasking will be implemented in the fall.
     
  3. Blakjack macrumors 68000

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    OMB, Another one of these......

    Every reason u gave for getting a new laptop, the iPad takes care of.
    Every reason u gave for not buying an iPad is invalid.

    This is what my iPad is

    Phone
    Calendar
    Map
    GPS
    calculator
    Newspaper
    Translator
    Meas Converter
    Bible
    Book Library
    book store
    Photo Library
    Two Way(text+)
    Police scanner
    Recorder
    iPod
    Office(pages, keynote=word,power point)
    Dictator
    Dictionary
    Cook Book
    Radio
    Game console
    Artist Kit
    Piano
    Synthesizer
    Beat Machine
     
  4. Mitchrapp macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe it shouldn't but it can ;). My laptop and netbook doesn't get used at all anymore. iPad and Desktop combo work great.
     
  5. ChrisGonzales90 macrumors 6502a

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    ummmm not really you can place it on your lap.

    so send feedback to apple at apple.com/feedback.

    You do know multitasking is coming in the fall right?

    You sure its not your internet connection? Mine is prety fast on a wireless fiber optic network.

    complain to Google then. actully Apple. Apple does not support plug ins for its mobile safari.

    again. Apple wont allow it since its a direct copy of its own. Then again there is opera mobile.

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    You do know there is an you tube app right? accessing youtube.com from safari will bring up you tube mobile and the videos are in HTML 5.. any inbeaded videos will be in HTML 5.



    You answered your question right there.
     
  6. harry*333 macrumors 6502a

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    1. You can't get a decent laptop for $500
    2. An iPad can replace a laptop, but only if you have a desktop

    My advice: increase your budget and buy an iPad and a desktop
     
  7. bowlerman625 macrumors 68020

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  9. MrWillie macrumors 65816

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    Textie and ebuddy both work in the background. (Textie is IM, eBuddy is chat). Yes to reply you need to close your web browser, but it picks up where it left off when you return.

    There arenseveral web browsers for the iPad. Duplicating Apple functionality is no longer an issue. What is an issue is using third party API's. Also is the Mozzilla foundation working on an app for Firefox?

    Buy a sub $400 from Wally World. Sheer frustration.

    iPad faults ? Lack of cursor control, and I keep hitting the N key instead of the spacebar.

    I tend to agree with the poster that said get a good desktop and a Pad.
     
  10. TraceyS/FL macrumors 68040

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    I'm going to ASSume you are basing the speed of the Internet based on use at an apple store or some other store.

    Probably not the best to use to judge, it's normally torture in the store for me.

    But see that guy over there? Ya, that one, he's happy you aren't buying one, his reservation just got shaved off by one iPad!

    Oh and i can type about 70 wpm on it.... Works for me!
     
  11. craig1410 macrumors 65816

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    If you don't 'get it' then don't get it!

    Sorry, I don't mean to be flippant but from the position you have adopted then it seems clear that you don't actually want one. I'm sure you can live your life without an iPad. I think with stuff like this, if you want it work for you then it will but if you start out from a negative stance then it's not ever going to work unless you can open your mind. Even then there are no guarantees to be fair.

    I love my iPad and I hope you change your mind but if not, then I'm sure you will find an alternative.

    Good luck,
    Craig.
     
  12. btrav13 macrumors 6502

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    Just my 2 pennies, but...

    Anyone who honestly believes that the iPad is going to replace their laptop (or they will be able to get an iPad in lieu of an iPad), and then comes on here to post about how the iPad is not a laptop so they won't buy one is completely insane. If you think for a minute that tablet computing was meant to erase laptops from the planet then you have no idea what the tablet computer is supposed to be. It is NOT going to replace your laptop. It is NOT going to replace your desktop. This is an entirely new market that Apple pretty much created over night when the iPad hit the market. I own a laptop and an iPad and they both are used for wildly different functions, some of which overlap.
     
  13. shrakner macrumors member

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    You sound like the perfect candidate for an Ion netbook...

    I would suggest an Ion-powered netbook. That would address most of your concerns, except possibly the screen visibility- backlit screens simply have to struggle against bright surroundings, though high-quality screens with bright backlights will of course be better.

    Ion netbooks use an NVIDIA chipset to overcome the graphical limitations of typical netbooks, and they're still fairly cheap (< $500) with decent battery. You'll have to do your own research on which ones are the best, but this Eee PC one is a good example: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZLOR56?ie=UTF8&tag=ion-netbook-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002ZLOR56.

    While netbooks like these still aren't that powerful compared to standard laptops, they are fairly cheap with decent battery life. And compared to your existing computer, it'll be a speed demon. :p
     
  14. Robbadore64 macrumors regular

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    I think a lot of the things things don't suit you you'll adjust to and end up enjoying it. But I'm not going to try to convince you. I just find that my iPad covers about 95% of what I use a computer for. Occasionally I'll use my iMac for things but not very much nowadays. The convenience of being able to turn it on in 1 second and get something done like looking at a web page or editing a spreadsheet in seconds is just awesome. So many times when used to think about doing something and then think "well, I need to go upstairs and turn on the iMac etc..." and I wouldn't bother (and my iMac is no dog). Now 95% of what I want to do can be achieved in a few seconds....love that.

    So what are you going to do with the $500? If you save a little longer maybe a refurb MacBook for $750 will suit you?

    Oh, and I NEVER hold it in one hand and type; never did that on a laptop either.

    Good luck!
     
  15. JayMysterio macrumors 6502

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    Holy crap! You wrote all that and answered your own question.

    YOU WANT A LAPTOP!!!!

    Check here: http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=126

    Thank you for playing...

    Hint: You may have missed it, but the IPad was NEVER intended to replace anything, it's complimentary technology. They do however a weaker class of smaller laptops/notebooks, referred to as netbooks. That maybe what you want. Especially with your imagined price point.
     
  16. Snowy_River macrumors 68030

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    The virtual keyboard is definitely something that takes some getting used to. When I tried using it in the store, I was sure that I was going to want an external keyboard (more on that in a moment) when I got mine. But, after working with it for about a day or two, I found that I could type on it quite comfortably. I'm not sure what the problem you were having with Pages was, because the auto-correction quite definitely does work in Pages. It does, in point of fact, also underline words that it fails to correct but seem to be misspelled, but that is not in lieu of the auto-correct feature.

    With regards to an external keyboard, I'm not a big fan of Apple's dock with keyboard. I'd much sooner use a Bluetooth keyboard or get a camera connection kit and use any old USB keyboard.

    As has been mentioned, iOS4 is coming. Being able to see more than one app at a time, well, for that you need a more traditional OS.

    Can't speak to this one, personally. What I can say is that, in general, when I'm web browsing, I can find things pretty fast. There are, of course, some short comings compared to a full desktop class browser (no in page searching is my biggest complaint), but they aren't so big as to make me walk away from the device.

    Again, and we may disagree on this point, but Safari is a very capable browser, and the way that they have devised to manage pages in mobile Safari works fairly well. Is it flawless? No. Is it as powerful as a desktop class browser? No. Does it, for the most part, get the job done? Certainly.

    While I understand that some people like and use Flash, I've never been all that wild about it. Sure, the lack of it means that I can't go to some of the silly free online flash game sites, but, hey, I'm okay with that. Sure, there are sites like Hulu that I can't use, but I've never been all that impresses with Hulu's content. And, yes, there are some corporate websites that are entirely based in Flash. When I hit one of those, I get irritated, not at my device, but at the company that can't at least provide a lo-fi HTML version of their site. Usually, I conclude that they don't really want my business. Occasionally, I choose to go and get on my computer, if it's really important that I visit that particular site.

    While the iPad's screen visibility suffers in bright light, and is hard to use in direct sunlight, it is quite possible to use it outdoors or on a bus. I have done so on numerous occasions, from sharing photos in a parking lot, to reading a book and browsing the web from my hammock in my back yard.

    In all honesty, when you outlined what you wanted, I knew that the iPad wasn't right for you. The number one reason that the iPad isn't for you, you missed entirely in your reasons. All of the reasons that you gave, one could argue with, to some extent or another. But if you want to write papers, then the one thing that you need that the iPad doesn't have is printing support. Yes, there are some apps that offer some flavor of printing support, but none of them are really very good solutions. Now, there is reason to believe that Apple is working on printing support for the iPad, but we have no idea when that will come. iOS 4.1? iOS 5? Who knows?

    My recommendation to you would be to get a used MacBook. A little bigger than your netbook, but much more capable. And going used, you should be able to find one that meets your budget constraints.
     
  17. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    There actually is a setting to turn autocorrect on or off. It's in the Settings app, General > Keyboard. That display model you saw must have had autocorrect turned off, because I use Pages on my iPad all the time and autocorrect works just fine.
     
  18. brentsg macrumors 68040

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    Nobody that types that much should have an iPad.
     
  19. Zcott macrumors 68020

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    I like my iPad and it does everything I need it to do. It's not a laptop, it's a tablet.
     
  20. mrj412 macrumors regular

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    Well crap, I was going to read my ebook on the way home this evening, but since you said I can no longer use my iPad on the bus ... Seriously, you're trying too hard, just don't buy the damn thing if you don't like it.

    The iPad is a device that compliments my desktop and macbook, it doesn't replace them. I use each as needed for the task at hand.

    PS - Still going to enjoy my ebook on the way home in a few minutes. :)
     
  21. melman101 macrumors 68030

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    I was waiting for someone to point that out :).

    Yeah, obviously, an iPad is not for you. However, it's the perfect mobile device for me.
     
  22. gucciipad macrumors member

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    If u get the 3G u can u can browse the web on the bus
     
  23. Cheffy Dave macrumors 68030

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    Who cares why YOU don't want one, I don't give a rats patoot, I have one and love it:eek:What you don't know about the capabilities of this device could fill a book
     
  24. Moxofien macrumors newbie

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    Sounds like you want an iPad, but need a laptop.

    Do yourself a favor and purchase a laptop, then get an iPad when you can afford it.
     

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