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It seems that apple intentionally slows down old machines every so often. In the fall a series 6 Apple Watch will be released and so apple's watch OS 7 may slow down my fast running series 4 to make it slow like my previous series 2 was and so it would be useless to upgrade and why this time I may just wait till all the bugs and speed problems are resolved. Is anyone else planning on doing likewise this fall? I don't know about you but I plan to keep my series 4 for a long time. No reason to upgrade since its fast, has plenty of memory and does everything I need.
 
Keep in mind, if you don't upgrade you watch then you can't upgrade your phone either. I'm pretty sure the watch will stop responding to the phone if you update to iOS 14 but not watchOS 7.

As for your concern, I can't see that happening. There is a huge difference between the Series 2 and 4, my Series 3 runs fine on watchOS 6 despite being 3 years old this year. If you don't want to upgrade then that's up to you, but I think you'l be fine if you do upgrade.
 
Keep in mind, if you don't upgrade you watch then you can't upgrade your phone either. I'm pretty sure the watch will stop responding to the phone if you update to iOS 14 but not watchOS 7.

As for your concern, I can't see that happening. There is a huge difference between the Series 2 and 4, my Series 3 runs fine on watchOS 6 despite being 3 years old this year. If you don't want to upgrade then that's up to you, but I think you'l be fine if you do upgrade.

I may wait to upgrade. I just don't want it to be as sluggish as series 2 was.
 
To be honest I’d like Apple fix an ongoing issue with Watch and Watch OS and how it pairs to Apple Health app.

should you ever reset your Apple Watch /or/ upgrade to a new one, APPLE health keeps the data from the Watch as “<your first name of iCloud> Watch”.

I just noticed for myself, all timesive reset or restored from iCloud and changed my iPhone 8 name it’s now showing each instance - including twice where I’ve named my iPhone Arc angle.

the issue is, you don’t know what data in Health is tied to which device and at what time frame. If you remove one, and especially with Watch if it’s the wrong one you will loose ALL relevant historical data! Health is too serious to screw up like this!!

if Health app tied your personal data within and within iCloud then removing the source device (old reset or renamed) should not remove the data!
 

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New OS has new features. Old product has limited support life cycle.

Apple don't deliberately slow down new devices, they just include new features in new software. New features require more resources and eventually old devices can't keep up.

This is the way technology moves forward.

In the case of the s4 however - it has the same speed hardware as the s5 and the s3 is still on sale so it should be good for a while yet.
 
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Apple’s upgrades have been known to improve the performance of older devices, too. The spent-battery throttling issue isn’t an annual tradition.

Do what you want. Your post is pretty pointless.
 
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It seems that apple intentionally slows down ....

In your first sentence, you lose a lot of credibility by claiming ‘intentionally’. When they’re (Apple) really like the only tech manufacturer that provides five + years worth of iOS updates, let alone even first GEN watches that are not supported by watchOS, still is perfectly functional in terms of what somebody needs to accomplish.

It’s like you’re trying to find a reason why you wouldn’t update your Apple Watch, so that way you can blame Apple for something regardless. If everybody shares your mindset, then they would never upgrade their OS at all.
 
In your first sentence, you lose a lot of credibility by claiming ‘intentionally’. When they’re (Apple) really like the only tech manufacturer that provides five + years worth of iOS updates, let alone even first GEN watches that are not supported by watchOS, still is perfectly functional in terms of what somebody needs to accomplish.

It’s like you’re trying to find a reason why you wouldn’t update your Apple Watch, so that way you can blame Apple for something regardless. If everybody shares your mindset, then they would never upgrade their OS at all.

Okay okay it appears I made a mistake. Its looking like the series 4 will run the next Watch OS just fine.
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New OS has new features. Old product has limited support life cycle.

Apple don't deliberately slow down new devices, they just include new features in new software. New features require more resources and eventually old devices can't keep up.

This is the way technology moves forward.

In the case of the s4 however - it has the same speed hardware as the s5 and the s3 is still on sale so it should be good for a while yet.

Good to know because I was worried the series 4 would be sluggish like the series 2 was.
 
It seems that apple intentionally slows down old machines every so often. In the fall a series 6 Apple Watch will be released and so apple's watch OS 7 may slow down my fast running series 4 to make it slow like my previous series 2 was and so it would be useless to upgrade and why this time I may just wait till all the bugs and speed problems are resolved. Is anyone else planning on doing likewise this fall? I don't know about you but I plan to keep my series 4 for a long time. No reason to upgrade since its fast, has plenty of memory and does everything I need.

My series 1 has no issues, sluggishness or or such problems on WatchOs 6.

The only intentional slowing down Apple did was on the iPhone a couple of years ago.

Aside from that, I'm not aware of any such intentional effort to do this.

Folk love to accuse Apple of this without a shred of actual evidence. Quite often slowdowns are for totally different reasons, and could even be down to third party app incompatibility or issues with the later version of the Operating System.
 
I've never had an Apple OS update that has slowed down any of my devices and I keep mine a lot longer than Apple would like.
 
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I have the Series 3 so I can only comment regarding that one.

I mean it would take longer to open the workout App, the MLB app and such. My series 4 has no speed problems at all which is why I want to keep it this way.
 
I mean it would take longer to open the workout App, the MLB app and such. My series 4 has no speed problems at all which is why I want to keep it this way.
Like I said before, the Series 2 has always been slower than the Series 4 regardless of watchOS version. If you upgrade your Series 4 to watchOS 7 I very highly doubt it’ll be slower. My Series 3 runs watchOS 6 just fine and my iPhone 7 runs iOS 13 just fine. Devices from 2016 and 2017.
 
Like I said before, the Series 2 has always been slower than the Series 4 regardless of watchOS version. If you upgrade your Series 4 to watchOS 7 I very highly doubt it’ll be slower. My Series 3 runs watchOS 6 just fine and my iPhone 7 runs iOS 13 just fine. Devices from 2016 and 2017.

Then I will upgrade. I have a XR and it runs IOS 13 also just fine.

MacBook Pro 15-inch, Mid-2012 Unibody, 8GB RAM, 500GB SSD, macOS 10.15.5 Beta 1

Looks like you have the same MacBook as me. I sure hope we will be supported the next Mac OS as I cant really afford to buy a 2020 MacBook Pro at this time.
 
The best is to wait for WatchOS 7 reviews to see if it's slower on "old" watches.
But AW4=AW5 regarding performance, so it's very unlikely that WatchOS 7 will slowdown so recent hardware ...
 
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Looks like you have the same MacBook as me. I sure hope we will be supported the next Mac OS as I cant really afford to buy a 2020 MacBook Pro at this time.
Same, if not you can always use Dosdude1's patcher for 10.16. The newer versions of macOS can usually run just fine on unsupported machines but Apple won't support them for whatever reason.
 
Same, if not you can always use Dosdude1's patcher for 10.16. The newer versions of macOS can usually run just fine on unsupported machines but Apple won't support them for whatever reason.

I have a SSD which makes this mac 10 times faster over the old 5400 spinner.
 
My old series 2 definitely got slower over time.

Series 4 has the same S chip (renumbered) as series 5 - so whatever effect watchOS 7 has will be the same on both watches. Do you really think they will slow down the series 5 a year after people bought one? I think not. Sometimes I feel your posts are not very well though or through. No offence.
 
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