Why I Think Jailbreaking Might Be Coming To an End

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by leons, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. leons macrumors 6502

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    I know (and am greatly thankfull) that the Dev Team has always come through before. But it feels different now that:

    Apple has started to attack the problem through both firmware and software;
    New (3GS) Bootrom;
    3.1.3 software closing an exploit that was prviously only "half successfully" utilized (tethered).

    The Dev Team was only able to make a "tehered JB" (on 3GS new bootrom), and before they were able to go further, Apple closed even that exploit.

    As noted in another thread, the Dev Team are volunteers with day jobs and/or school. Apple has unlimited funds to throw at firmware/software development.

    As one who lives by and relies on a JB 3GS, I hope and pray I'm wrong. But the current situation reminds me of Cable Boxes years ago. Hacks & Black Boxes were common. Then came Digital Cable Boxes, and that door has yet to reopen.
     
  2. pcs are junk macrumors 65816

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    apple and the dev team have been playing a cat and mouse game for years...i dont think jailbreaking until 10 more years.
     
  3. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    I'm not a technology expert but I'm pretty sure they will always find a way to do this. I kind of seeing it going the other way and apple just letting it be instead of continuing with the cat and mouse game. I feel like one day apple will "unoficially" decide well its your phone do whatever you want with it and they will stop locking it down with every update.
     
  4. SpaceKitty macrumors 68040

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    The biggest problem I feel that Apple has with jailbreaking is that it allows anyone to install pirated apps. I'm sure if it weren't for these pirated apps, Apple would have no problem with jailbreaking.
     
  5. mgamber macrumors 6502a

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    I agree that it will eventually end but it will be a slow process with no definite end. This last half-assed jailbreak scheme lost me. I actually leave the house now and then and I can't rely on a phone that requires a computer running blackra1n to finish starting up. I'm sure many others are in the same situation. Every time Apple changes something, there's the usual flock of users who don't (or can't) read and immediately update and blow their chance of jailbreaking any time soon. Those will old phones will eventually need or want to update their phone and then they'll be stuck with the unbootable phone. And so it goes until so few people jailbreak that no one is going to care, effectively ending jailbreaking. Apple will never give up control over the phone, period.

    All that having been said, the sole reason I bothered to jailbreak was to use Slingplayer via 3G. To that end, I found a solution that's much better than jailbreaking; Windows Mobile. I bought a Fuze a year ago "just in case" and WinMo is great because Microsoft doesn't care what you do with it. I have Slingplayer on it and all I need to do is pull the sim out of the iPhone, pop it into the Fuze and I'm watching Slingplayer. Hey, as a matter of fact, I can leave it running and listen to the audio as I bring up Opera to do some web browsing. Plus the Fuze's reception is much better than that of the iPhone. The iPhone's UI is a magnitude better and that's why I continue to use the iPhone but that's the only reason and it's starting to get pretty thin.
     
  6. Ke1ington macrumors 6502a

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    I see where you're coming from but there are many app developers who have come up with effective ways of preventing piracy. I'm sure if Apple were to take that route they would find a way to have each app require a registration before properly functioning (or something along that route).
     
  7. pcs are junk macrumors 65816

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    no...pirating apps is coming to an end because the app that cracks them doesnt work on 3.0.
     
  8. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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  9. rgarjr macrumors 603

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    Maybe the public software for hacking of apps might Not work with 3.X but I'm sure there's a few underground ones out there that work on anything.
     
  10. nick1516 macrumors 6502a

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    I don't see it ending until some of the key advantages of jailbreaking are allowed by apple: themes, multiple carriers, categories and folders, etc.
     
  11. The General macrumors 601

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    works fine, man
     
  12. Gix1k macrumors 68030

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    Apple better deliver me something new and fast or i'm getting a Nexus One.
     
  13. Rooftop voter macrumors 6502a

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    Let's hope not. I'm still hoping they figure out a way to un teather the 3gs.
     
  14. ARF900 macrumors 65816

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    I hope it doesnt end cause the only way the iPad is gonna be even close to worth the money is if its jailbroken.
     
  15. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    and how is now unique compared to past?

    and apple does not have unlimited monies
     
  16. leons thread starter macrumors 6502

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    clearly, my "unlimited" is in relation to "volunteers"......

    "unique compared to the past" in the agressive update to the 3GS Bootrom (specifacally to thwart jailbreakers) that was only "half" crackable (tethered), followed by a surprise update that combined with the new bootrom does not even have a rumored Jailbreak exploit.


     
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  18. TSX macrumors 68030

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    I don't think it will end, the only reason the new boot rom is tethered is because they are waiting till the new iPhone is released before exposing the new exploit. I think geohot has an untethered iPod touch 3rd gen, and he finally hacked the ps3 after 2/3 years.
     
  19. Shenaniganz08 macrumors 6502

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    +1

    push come to shove, developers will start to ask for donations if it starts getting difficult to jailbreak future OS releases

    If there is a market, people will pay :D
     
  20. SpaceKitty macrumors 68040

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    You really have no idea what you are talking about. The app still works.
     
  21. ToroidalZeus macrumors 68020

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    Obviously some of you guys have never had a psp. The fact is these codes are complex and more importantly add a lot of functionality. The more the user can make the os run, the more exploits can be made. You guys should be happy modding has gone from hardmodding to softmodding.
     
  22. Hudzilla macrumors 6502a

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    I've been jailbreaking since the first gen iPhones very first method.

    It will never stop.
     
  23. bigbadnewill macrumors 6502

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    I don't think it will end. In my opinion (yes I said opinion) the jailbreak guru's won't be rushing out to hack the 3GS tethering problem as relatively few people are experiencing a problem. All 3G's and early 3Gs's can be easily jailbroken, which is a massive % of iPhones out there.

    However, when the new iPhone comes out this summer and everyone rushes to buy it, i'm sure the demand will pick up again and we'll see an untethered jailbreak.

    As someone mentioned, it's exactly the same as the PSP. No matter how much Sony try stop it, the devs beat them...eventually. The PSP has so much potential, and the CFW allows you to unleash that power!
     

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