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Why is Apple getting rid of the Macbook Pro?
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I'll leave the optical drive out for now; losing it would be only a minor inconvenience for me.
As for the hard drive:
Slow? Comparatively speaking, yes.
Antiquated? Only when it no longer meets users' needs, which hasn't happened yet for most users.
Unreliable? I've heard a lot more horror stories about SSD failure lately than about HDD failure, and most SSD failures are catastrophic, with data completely unrecoverable.
And you missed one adjective which is very important to many users: LARGE.
that isnt true. all apple AIOs use desktop-quality hardware and so do all the other pc alternatives at those screen sizes that apple offer + 24" models. i seriously dont know where you got the idea that imac and windows all-in-ones use laptop-quality hardware
ditching the MBP would make some sense, but not enough to actually discontinue it. for example, the benchmark scores between a macbook air and a macbook pro are very near to each other, apparently, but not everyone would like that fact that apple are removing the disk drive for the sake of it's weight and thinness.
i, myself would not like to see apple discontinue the macbook pro as some people need it for for the stuff that the MBA can't handle, like photoshop and adobe. and also some for those that use their MBPs for gaming on a virtual boot of windows 7 on their macs. not to mention that some would need this sort of computer for school work (i am supposed to be doing GSCE through the next couple of years, and IT is definatly one of my options)
It's a partial mix, and I think people get confused. The imacs use SODIMM ram form factors much like laptops, and they use laptop gpus. The gpu in the 27" imac is considerably slower than the desktop gpu options of the mac pro (which are priced a bit high relative to their age). It's normally seen in 17" gaming laptops that can take the heat. The cpu options of the imac are seen for much less on the Windows side, but obviously not built behind a 27" ips display.
I don't think we'll see the macbook pro go away. Apple would need to be quite sure that they can sell more macbook airs at an equivalent or better margin to do such a thing. Their best growth outside of idevices seems to be in laptops. I'd be somewhat surprised if the imac outpaced the macbook pro there. Dropping the only models with discrete gpus could potentially alienate a lot of people, especially considering how bad Intel's graphics have been thus far. They always promise to do better on the next generation, but I'd want to see highly functional hardware and drivers before believing this.
SSD technology as of today is no more reliable than an HDD. This is a silly myth due regarding the moving parts that only represent one point of potential failure. Both technologies do have bad models with abysmally high first year failure rates. What I truly hate about this kind of statement is that it encourages people reading to neglect to make backups of their data, which is quite necessary regardless of drive type.
Those of us with long term Apple experience, know that Apple's going to do what they want... Period.
The speculation & predictions are all wasted time
The speculation & predictions are all wasted time
i definatly agree with you there. the windows AIO desktop i am writing this message on right now has a laptop GPU, and this is because the market look to closely on how thin these computers are. and i find this silly, because as if we are going to take theses computers around with us and i would sacrifice thinnees to be replaced with the power that all desktops need and deserve.
I know of no person who thinks this way. Everyone realizes that a storage drive, is a storage drive, and should be backed up regularly. One is fast, and has no moving parts. The other is slow, and has fragile moving parts that often break.
That's all anyone needs to know to opt for an SSD. They're better, in every way. No one has ever suggested that they invincible, or do not have any possible issues whatsoever.
You're still claiming one is more reliable. It's not. Get over it. The moving parts in one aren't more likely to fail than the immobilized parts in the other. You're just applying very simple logic here without considering any other factors. With an SSD you gain speed. You do not gain reliability over a mechanical drive. That might change, but for now you're simply incorrect.
And unless someone has devised a way recently, when a SSD dies the data is forever lost. I have yet to hear of forensics that can be performed on them to recover data, as can be done with a HDD (although if it does exist, it is uber expensive, even when compared to recovery costs for HDD). Rule of thumb is keep a good, current back up just in case (this holds true for HDDs as well).