Why is Apple so damn stubborn to never include notification LED in its iPhone brand?

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  1. Hal~9000, Sep 14, 2014
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    Hal~9000 macrumors 68000


    Sep 13, 2014
    I mean it's not that difficult to do, what gives? :confused:

    And no... the camera LED does not count.

    EDIT: I am talking about an LED notification light that...
    1) Is hidden underneath the glass or earpiece grill
    2) Is turned off by default

    This way no one can whine and say "but that is ugly" or "but I dont want it" since those types won't be bothered by the LED, only the people that want it and turn it on will have it.
  2. ChristianVirtual macrumors 601


    May 10, 2010
    What for ? In old days and flip phones the LED was ok as additional signal. These days we have a huge retina-(LED) display showing all kind of information/notification.

    Don't miss that little flashy LED. And soon we can wrap a watch around our wrists. But that's just me. YMMV.
  3. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
  4. phpmaven macrumors 68040


    Jun 12, 2009
    San Clemente, CA USA
    What for? I have never once in my life ever thought "man, I wish this thing had a notification LED" nor have I ever heard any of the many people I know say that. Since this is a feature that obviously very few people want or need, you will never see it.
  5. Surf Monkey macrumors 68030

    Surf Monkey

    Oct 3, 2010
    Portland, OR
    Yeah! And why don't they put actual brass bells in phones anymore either?? When is Apple going to bring back brass bells???
  6. Eggtastic macrumors 6502a


    Jun 9, 2009
    i agree and am surprised more people have not attacked you on this. I posted a question like this months back and got reamed out. i don't think it would ruin the design what so ever. i have a samsung galaxy s3 and the notification helps a lot, plus designating certain colors for email, text, missed calls, etc.

    i hope someday apple wakes up and realizes just about every other phone on the market has one, thats about one of the few features apple hasn't decided to add to "catch up".

    with that said, i have a 6+ 64gb on order and am happy to jump back into the apple ecosystem. the LED notification would have been the icing on the cake. oh well.
  7. eoblaed macrumors 68020


    Apr 21, 2010
    Because it doesn't provide any usefulness beyond what the phones already do now? If your phone's in your pocket, it doesn't matter. If your phone is on your desk, you've got that big screen to give you way more information than a little glow light.
  8. pragmatous macrumors 65816

    May 23, 2012
    Because if you touch the home button you have the screen as your "LED indicator"

    I don't understand the point of the LED indicator and when you get your indications on the screen?

  9. Lloydbm41 macrumors 601


    Oct 17, 2013
    Central California
    LED light... Never gonna happen.

    Active display aka Moto X style notifications... Possible.
  10. newone757 macrumors 6502

    Apr 5, 2011
    OP I'm actually with you on this one

    So many people miss the point. Notification led isn't for when you get a notification while looking at the phone... It's more useful for when you've actually missed something and return to your phone. Yes you can wake the device and check but you wouldn't even have to if, for instance, the ring around the touch ID home button glowed when you missed something -- indicating there is something that requires your attention.

    I'm not one of those people who constantly wake their device for no good reason and scroll around the home screen doing absolutely nothing. I see plenty of people like that out in public and it's, IMO, a bad habit. It would be nice to be able to look across the room at my phone sitting on the table and see the home button lit up, indicating I should walk over and check the phone l. There's been times when I left my phone alone for a while and missed a few texts before coming back in to grab it on my way out the house.

    If you've ever seen the notification orb on the old Palm Pre you'd understand. That was a perfect l, subtle indication. I'm not fond of any of the dedicated notification LEDs on android phones.
  11. Surf Monkey macrumors 68030

    Surf Monkey

    Oct 3, 2010
    Portland, OR
    What iPhones need is telescoping antennas! Phone reception has sucked since companies stopped putting those on phones. Come ON, Apple! When are you going to bring back the telescoping antenna??
  12. sillywabbit macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2012

    Because you have too many apple fanboys on here.

    Once apple decides to include an LED indicator, the fanboys will say it innovative.

    Typical apple fanboy mentality.
  13. TSX macrumors 68030


    Oct 1, 2008
    It has to do with battery life, a vibration or alert should be enough to get your attention that you got a notification. What's a led going to do for you when your asleep you can't see it.
  14. pragmatous macrumors 65816

    May 23, 2012
    You clearly don't own an iphone.

    On the iphone notifications pop up on the screen. The entire screen. No need for an LED indicator light. It's not needed. It's an old philosophy for people who hate their phones and never want to look at it.

    Iphone is different. People want to look at their phones. Just by looking at your phone you get all the notifications on the screen.

  15. Surf Monkey macrumors 68030

    Surf Monkey

    Oct 3, 2010
    Portland, OR
    Thank goodness you're here to provide that lone voice in the wilderness.
  16. pragmatous macrumors 65816

    May 23, 2012
    Never going to happen. It's an old idea that old people cling to. It's no longer needed on the iphone for the reasons I outlined above.

  17. bunnicula macrumors 68040


    Jul 23, 2008
    Nope. We'll all be trying to figure out how to switch off the ugly, flashy light. ;)
  18. sillywabbit macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2012
    Why is Apple so damn stubborn to never include notification LED in its iPhone...

    I lot of times at home or work, I place my phone on the desk, bed, table, etc. walk away to the kitchen, break room, bathroom, driving with the radio up, etc. I miss a call and I am unaware of it when I come back. A light indicator lets me know I missed a call, text, etc. the lighting up of the screen does not stay on long enough if you have been gone for a while.

    Not everyone keeps there phone on them at all times.

    Just sayin'
  19. MauriceMoss macrumors member


    Aug 20, 2010
    I guess I'm out of the loop on this one. I've never had an android device so take this with a grain of salt.

    But, what is the point of a flashing or solid light? What exactly is that going to tell you?

    You missed a call? You have a new email? What if you have seven new emails and the third one is the most important? Does the light blink seven times and the third blink is red? Is there a secret code letting me know my wife was one of three callers?


    Just look at the lock screen for a detailed listing of notifications.

    Not sure why people would want a little light telling them they missed stuff.

    I guess based on the posting above that we all develop different habits based on the phones we use.
    If I was out of the room or away from my phone, I'd just pick it up and look at it. It takes like, I dunno, less than a second to wake it up and look at it.
  20. fmalloy macrumors 6502

    Nov 5, 2007
    I see. So when you get back to your office at work, you'd like to have to press a button on your phone to see if there's voice mail. And when you get home, you've no problem to press a button on your phone to see if you have messages?

    I guess I'm weird - I just think it would be nice to glance at my phone on the desk to see if I need to bother to reach over and press a button to check messages or not.

    A flashing LED. Old school technology, but it's actually useful. But since Apple says it isn't, the fanboys have to agree.
  21. QuarterSwede macrumors G3


    Oct 1, 2005
    Colorado Springs, CO
    True, but I bet most people do especially men (almost all pants/shorts they have have pockets). I'm not saying Apple would never add an LED light but they probably see it as some really low priority thing.
  22. The Afroman macrumors regular

    The Afroman

    Jul 20, 2009
    So turn them on..

    Settings > General > Accessibility > LED Flash for Alerts..

    I use this all the time. Sometimes I miss the sound/vibe but I will always see the flash of the back led.
  23. fmalloy macrumors 6502

    Nov 5, 2007
    I use it too. Problem is, it flashes once, and often when it's across the room and you're not looking at it.

    When you walk up to your phone that was in the next room, you still have to pick it up and press a button and view the screen to see if you have messages to check or not.
  24. BJabs macrumors newbie

    Oct 12, 2011
    I don't know. I really miss LEDs. Everything has to look cool, now, instead of just being effective.
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