why is apple the moral compass? Why doesn't flash work? Why no casino apps?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by akbrjg777, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. akbrjg777 macrumors newbie

    Oct 6, 2007
    Online casinos work on all other smart phones why not the iPhone? Also why can't you even use adoble flash to use the casino through safari via the iPhone. I understand if apple doesn't want to allow the app but to totally block it from safari is nuts. Wake up apple. People will soon be seeking the alternative smart phones that do the same or more as the iPhone but don't limit what people can & can't do from their phones. Other phones can support flash why not you? Did they not pay you enough for the priveledge? Aren't you making enough money now to stop worrying snout the stupid things. & stop limiting people from what they want? Apple should not dictate to us what is moral & what is not. My 10 year cousin pulled up a pornographic video on YouTube through my iPhone and I was mad at myself for not watching what she was doing. Not mad at apple or YouTube. It's all bogus & needs to change. Let people decide for themselves what's appropriate. Let the parents watch their children & all problems are solved.
  2. GfPQqmcRKUvP macrumors 68040


    Sep 29, 2005
    Why do people need to start threads like this?
  3. Dead Panda macrumors member

    Apr 14, 2010
    It's Apple's device, Apple's store and Apple's reputation at stake. Just like any store, they can choose what not to sell.

    If they let you have anything you want, the iPhone would be just another crappy phone, but they want you to have a good experience on it.

    Flash would slow down a lot of iPhones and that's not what Apple wants people to view the iPhone as.
  4. TwinCities Dan macrumors 603

    TwinCities Dan

    May 19, 2008
    Double Parked out front of the Courthouse
    Why do birds suddenly appear... :p
  5. mcdj macrumors G3


    Jul 10, 2007
    6 letters. starts with n. ends with ewbie.
  6. doubleatheman macrumors 6502a


    May 27, 2009
    TBQH the lack of flash on my iPhone has never prevented me from doing something, (recently)

    At first I missed it, now I don't.

    I have no particular dislike for flash, In fact its Action script is the only programming language I know (other than HTML, CSS, XML). I liked how easy it was to create games and tools inside of flash. Flash is the only programming I enjoyed in school when I was taking classes for it.

    But its integration on computers was very clunky. Why on earth would making flash full screen make my other screens pull flash out of full screen if I click on my other screens.

    I way prefer iPhone optimized websites over flash ones, If flash was on the iPhone we would never see these optimized iPhone websites.
  7. Nicksd84 macrumors 6502

    Mar 4, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    Eh, these threads will always pop up. Might as well just keep the discussions going on for eternity. Honestly though, if you want those things you mentioned there are some very good alternatives now on the market. A big thanks for that can be attributed to Apple in the first place. So if you're unhappy, go ahead and jump ship. I get frustrated with the lack of flash from time to time, however nothing else out there compels me enough so I live with it. Hopefully, in due time the flash issue will be a non-issue with websites adapting to different or new standards. Time will tell.

    Oh, and as for casino stuff. A lot of them have iPhone optimized sites, so just make a bookmark on your app screens and there you go. You have a casino app.
  8. CocoaPuffs macrumors 68010

    Aug 23, 2008
    A simple reason why Apple cannot allow online gambling apps is simple...it's a US company and US laws regarding online gambling is...well, Apple has no reason to want to be any part of that discussion.

    Moral compass is a far fetch when Apple is practicing guideline that's in-line with other major medias.
  9. marksman macrumors 603


    Jun 4, 2007
    I am saying this in all seriousness and concern.

    Anyone who plays on a casino on their smart phone is a degenerate gambler.

    It is for your own good. Seriously.
  10. mkelly macrumors regular

    Nov 29, 2007
    LOL. Normally I don't feed the trolls, but as I used to be an embedded hardware/software developer, who worked on portable, internet-tablet devices, I feel somewhat qualified to answer this from a technical standpoint.

    1. Flash on mobile devices usually results in a poor user experience due to the hardware limitations of the mobile platform. The iPhone 3GS and iPad have 256 MB of RAM - that's not alot of room to work in.

    Take for example the Nokia N800 - its browser had built-in Flash support, but playing any Flash content on the device was painfully slow. Also, many Flash sites made use of "mouse hover" events - that's something that doesn't work on tablets (you can't hover your finger over the screen and have it register). So a lot of Flash content that works great on a desktop is slow and/or broken on a mobile device.

    Apple doesn't want the iPhone/iPad to "feel" slow, so no Flash.

    2. The web is based on open standards. Flash is a proprietary application. If all websites used Flash, then a single company (Adobe) could exercise control over an otherwise open system.

    3. HTML5 is a viable alternative to Flash for many (but not all) applications. HTML5 also happens to be open - no single company controls it.

    Remember RealPlayer? The streaming video player from Real Networks? It used to be the #1 way to stream video across the Internet. Millions of people relied on it, just as millions rely on Flash today. But with the advent of other streaming video technologies (and yes, that includes Flash), RealPlayer faded into the background. The same thing will happen to Flash as other more open technologies take root.
  11. corriewf macrumors 6502a

    Oct 5, 2009
    Zynga has a nice poker app. Well it cheats to high hell, but it's fun.
  12. matttye macrumors 601

    Mar 25, 2009
    Lincoln, England
    Farmville (a facebook flash game) being played on the Nexus One

    Oh look, the "impossible" has happened: a flash game running acceptably well on a Smartphone :rolleyes: Apple talk crap. The only reason for them not including flash is their petty dislike for Adobe.

    Flash runs perfectly fine with 512MB ram (which is what most smartphones are up to now), and slow but acceptable with 256MB. The main limitation is not RAM now, but network speed: it takes time to download the flash files. After the initial load these games run fine.
  13. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    Farmville is a perfect reason not to have Flash on the iPhone. :)
  14. thelatinist macrumors 603


    Aug 15, 2009
    Connecticut, USA
    Selling casino apps in the App store would bring up a number of thorny issues (some legal, some ethical) for Apple that I am sure they do not want to deal with. Even if the decision were based entirely on "morals," I do not think there would be anything wrong with it; more companies should consider the ethical implications of their business decisions, not just their bottom lines.

    As for your inability to access the your flash-based gambling site has nothing to do with its content. Apple has decided not to include Flash on the iPhone for a number of reasons, none of which, I am sure, had anything to do with preventing you from gambling.
  15. aluren macrumors 65816

    Sep 9, 2008
    Who says you can't gamble on the iPhone? There's an app for that.
  16. frunkis54 macrumors 65816


    Apr 2, 2009
    um i think i know the answer.

  17. ethical macrumors 68000

    Dec 22, 2007
    well done. one gold star for you!
  18. Melrose Suspended


    Dec 12, 2007
    All the same, he's been registered for three years. That's not exactly newbie. There have been enough threads like this around if you just go search them or care to remember..

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