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They're obviously referring to Microsoft *shudder* Access *shudder*.


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I know, but he refereed to Access in the plural. That the Microsoft DBMS is not available on the Mac is an understandable point even though I disagree with its importance. Whatever the merits of Access, it does not follow that the absence of Access on the Mac means the absence of all DBM systems on the Mac. While we are on the subject of Access, some history is in order. Access is a commercial success for the singular reason that Microsoft included it in the Office suite. This wonderful product lost more than 50% of the data that its users tried to manage with it. After Microsoft foisted Access on the market, it hedged its bets with its purchase of FoxBase, a dBase clone.

With Mac DBM systems, it was not necessary to hedge your bets. FileMaker, 4th Dimension, OpenBase, and lesser known titles work advertised.
 
It would be helpful if people would take time to actually read the posts they're responding to:
Really? Well I guess Safari, Mail, iCal, Front Row and iTunes (among others) aren't end-user applications? They're all included on a default Mac OS X install. Additionally, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie, iWeb and Garageband are included on every new Mac sold.
Apple has bundled third party apps with Macs before
True point, i got those apps with my first intel i think.
coverflow was a third party app back in the day and now its integrated
Safari, Mail, etc. are Apple apps, not 3rd-party. Cover Flow was purchased by Apple before it was integrated into iTunes, Finder, etc. Cover Flow, Flash and Java are not stand-alone end-user apps, but rather add functionality to existing apps, like iTunes, Safari, etc. Other apps bundled on a Mac are NOT part of the OS. Please re-read my original statement:
Apple doesn't bundle third-party applications in Mac OS X.
Which was in response to the OP:
It should be ... in Mac OS X, when shipped. ...an integraded part of the OS ... It has to be a part of Mac OS in the future
FileMaker Pro is the most popular database management system on the Mac and the second most popular DBMS for Windows.
For Windows, FileMaker Pro isn't even close, compared to Oracle or Microsoft SQL Server.
I know, but he refereed to Access in the plural.
Who did?
 
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