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Have you been experiencing this issue?

  • Yes, it needs to be fixed

    Votes: 25 54.3%
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    Votes: 21 45.7%
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Red29359

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People need to report this bug in the macOS Tahoe Notes App to Apple. If you use the tables feature in macOS Sonoma or macOS Sequoia, this did not happen, which makes me think the GPU drivers or Liquid Glass is causing a coding error in the macOS Tahoe version. Try making a 4x4 table with no words in any of the boxes in Notes, click on down box on the right column, then click the box above it, you will see the effect. Also in the second photo, sometimes typing long enough will cause the last letter to switch sides.
 
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If you not not experiencing the problem, then you must not be using macOS Tahoe. It affects all devices running it. I tried the Apple store ones, they all do the same thing. I even tried a new second profile on my device with no data, it does the same thing.
 
It seems to have been released.
I said “It was released, but unfinished.”
Released but clearly not tested well enough to make sure it is free of basic bugs. Bugs are normal, but only in complex areas, not basic functions. Apple in my opinion does not seem to have the integrity of making software that it once had in the entire 22 years of my life knowing Macs, I have never seem Apple screw up so badly until Ventura or Tahoe. Honestly, Catalina and older was the golden age of macOS Stability and Speed as well as Monterey and Sonoma for Apple Silicon. This perception is not limited to Apple, but also Microsoft with their bloated software and annoying security measures getting into my own account or Outlook. Google also went downhill going from a light and energy efficient search engine to a bloated, power hungry search engine and web apps that made it feel like it slowed down older machines.
 
I said “It was released, but unfinished.”

Apologies. I didn't find that anywhere and instead thought you'd said what I'd quoted.

I'll concede the thread's title is more appropriate for that rant than a complaint about one minor bug, so thank you for filling it in with that, I suppose.
 
Also in the second photo, sometimes typing long enough will cause the last letter to switch sides.
I used to hit this one all the time, until I gave up on tables almost entirely in Notes.

Bugs are normal, but only in complex areas, not basic functions. Apple in my opinion does not seem to have the integrity of making software
Have you tried the Journal app on iPad? I can name half a dozen bugs just from casual use since OS 26. And the app isn’t that complicated. It’s genuinely bad, and these bugs include data loss. It just doesn’t save sometimes when you’re using the Pencil to handwrite. I don’t know how they messed it up so badly when the Notes app works pretty well.
 
If you not not experiencing the problem, then you must not be using macOS Tahoe. It affects all devices running it. I tried the Apple store ones, they all do the same thing. I even tried a new second profile on my device with no data, it does the same thing.
Well, I'm on Tahoe since day one, 26.3.1 now, I've tried to replicate this bug you mention a couple of times, but Notes and tables are behaving perfectly fine here.
 
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But hear is the thing, that still counts as unfinished software. You cannot sell or release a product that is unfinished.

This isn't true at all. All software has bugs, it's just the nature of it. Sometimes its the fault of the programmer, often times it's the fault of project management who rushes things out despite the programmers saying it's not ready, sometimes it's the fault of the hardware itself, there's just so many unknowns in software dev. It'll never be perfect.


Software people use just fine every day often has bug lists in the thousands that are known that either aren't a priority fix or just can't be fixed without screwing up something else.
 
There are software bugs, and then there is the "we replaced the entire text subsystem with an unfinished and buggy one because we wanted a bonus, and we didn't fix any bug in the following four years because we had no incentive to".
 
I downgraded twice from Tahoe because it got worse and worse with every new version. I started with 26.0 Developer Beta 1 on day one downgraded after Beta 4 and came back with Beta 9 (last Beta before RC). The last version I used was 26.4 Beta 2. Every version introduced new bugs and I don't mean those little display glitches. I even felt the very first Developer Beta worked best, but looked horrible.

The year before I did the same early start with Sequoia upgraded directly after WWDC and I can't remember any serious problems and never thought about downgrading.

It seems Tahoe started with Alpha versions and even 26.3.1 should still be called a Beta.

Now I am on 15.7.5 (24G617). RC3 I think. And everything is good again. All the ugliness is gone too. Much more space on my screen.
 
"Why is macOS and other software so dysfunctional today?"

...because back in the good old days the code for editing tables wasn't part of Mac OS and we had to rely on Microsoft Office for wordprocessing bugs.

Also because back in the good old days, MacOS was distributed on optical disc or a stack of floppies and an upgrade cost $150, so Apple had an income stream and an incentive not to need to send out update disks. Now they can push out "Beta" version as "production" and spend the next year dripping out bug fixes via Software Update.
 
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I partly blame the rigid 12 month release cycle, and a stubborn focus on development efficiency that - for reasons best known to them - means they insist on managing a small number of engineers with the goal of consolidating the platforms to the bare minimum.

Take something as simple as the new playback bar in Music, as an example.



Any sane user would agree that this is a regression from what we've had previously.

- It's positioned at the bottom of the window (whereas, generally, controls for other apps are at the top).
- You have to hover over the strip just to access the track playhead and time (rather than just the play head)
- When you do, the rest of the strip is obscured by frosted glass - for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
- Like most of Liquid Glass, visibility of the strip boundary is worse because it blends into the content behind it.

I'm not going into the whole Is it objective/subjective debate, which frankly is exhausting. But what are the official arguments for design choices such as this?

- Liquid Glass "elevates the content users care about most"
- It increases consistency across platforms, "all while maintaining the distinct qualities that make each unique"
(Source: Apple Developer)


Let's break that down: Apple doesn't want to manage different platforms. Their end game is likely one OS that is scaled to all their devices in a very distant future. The issue is that we are no where near there yet.

This stubbornness isn't new to Tahoe. When Lion was released, Apple made a considerable number of bone-headed decisions to try and replicate iOS features in macOS - notably, the document containers within apps (because Steve Jobs wanted to move away from Finder's file management), and the introduction of Launchpad, which only received one update.

They say that each platform has distinct qualities that make them unique; but if that where the case, then why does Tahoe skew to choices that make no sense for a platform that has a minimum 13" screen and that's primarily controlled by mouse/trackpad for a cursor and keyboard?

What possible explanation is there for not seeing the track playhead above, other than the reluctance to simply write unique code for the Mac? If the Mac really is getting touch functionality, why isn't there a compromise of elements optimised for cursor or touch as needed? This is beyond a particular taste for an aesthetic or user error: it's clearly and obviously poor design.

The real problem here isn't that Macs are likely to get touch controls or that the software continues to have silly bugs that have gone for months, even years without being fixed: it's that Apple is dead set on trying to distill their OSs to as few development resources as possible, and in the process are using the excuse of 'increased consistency' as a reasoning behind the design.
 
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