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A lot of us love Apple's stuff. But we aren't going to kiss their butts if they do sometihng dumb.

Home team fans are usually the ones most critical of their favorite team.
IDK, I've seen a lot of home team fans refuse to acknowledge reality and get angry when someone brings up the elephant in the room.

Arizona Cardinals and Phoenix Coyotes fans more specifically.

Likewise there are some here for who Apple can do no wrong - ever. When you mention what Apple has done wrong, it's as if you have personally affronted them.
 
IDK, I've seen a lot of home team fans refuse to acknowledge reality and get angry when someone brings up the elephant in the room.

Arizona Cardinals and Phoenix Coyotes fans more specifically.

Likewise there are some here for who Apple can do no wrong - ever. When you mention what Apple has done wrong, it's as if you have personally affronted them.

I guess it depends on where you live. In Buffalo here, the Sabres get ripped regularly, and even the Bills. "13 seconds" will iive in infamy and fans on talk radio and social media destroyed the defense.

"13 seconds." "No goal." "Music City Miracle." "Wide right." Being the Patriots and Tom Brady's b*** for 20 years. Buffalo has a tradition of losing (0-6 in combined NFL/NHL championships). We just have an inferiority complex.
 
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I guess it depens on where you live. In Buffalo here, the Sabres get ripped regularly, and even the Bills. "13 seconds" will iive in infamy and fans on talk radio and social media destroyed the defense.

"13 seconds." "No goal." "Music City Miracle." "Wide right." Being the Patriots and Tom Brady's b*** for 20 years. Buffalo has a tradition of losing (0-6 in combined NFL/NHL championships). We just have an inferiority complex.
Every year, AZ Cardinals fans have hope and every year the Cardinals prove Denny Green right ("They are who we thought they were!") by snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

No matter the game, no matter the season, at some point the AZ Cardinals break down and it's over. Even when they get to a Super Bowl, they lose. You can count on it. But every year Cardinals fans have some new reason as to why THIS is the year the Cardinals will win.

A legacy of Dollar Bill Bidwill.

I also worked with someone who was a diehard Coyotes fan and she didn't want to hear anything bad/negative about her team.
 
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Every year, AZ Cardinals fans have hope and every year the Cardinals prove Denny Green right ("They are who we thought they were!") by snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

No matter the game, no matter the season, at some point the AZ Cardinals break down and it's over. Even when they get to a Super Bowl, they lose. You can count on it. But every year Cardinals fans have some new reason as to why THIS is the year the Cardinals will win.

A legacy of Dollar Bill Bidwill.

I also worked with someone who was a diehard Coyotes fan and she didn't want to hear anything bad/negative about her team.

I don't know about Kyler Murray. A little bit small. Russell, Drew Brees. Not too many greats at that size. That's what I like about Josh Allen. He doesn't slide, he runs over guys at 6-5, 240. If the Bills don't win with this team now, they never will. But it will be tough to get out of the AFC.
 
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I think MR is a good balance. People here appear to rightly hold Apple to very high standards. We can be fans without being sycophants and it's absolutely ok that we critique their products, services and user experience. Nothing wrong with a bit of debate and critiscm here and there. Apple is a big boy, it can take care of itself ?
 
It really depends on the topic , if its technical then most of it is good discussions with some fanboys from both sides (PC vs Mac , as we have iPhone users that love PC and hate the Mac for example) , where it gets nasty is the political , business side of topics , those threads are just the worst , but they also generate the most clicks by a mile , which is why MR keep posting them , how many threads did we have about the App Store ? about the EU ? about Epic ? you watch those threads and they are in the thousands in regards to replies , and once you read those threads its hard to not see this place as anti Apple.

But as stated , the technical discussions are much better.
 
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