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DBZmusicboy01

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Very disappointed :(

Reason I have both is because I am testing which size would work best but the 12 Pro Max is huge and the display is dimmer/lifeless compared to the 12 Mini even tho the SPECS Says the 12 Pro Max is supposed to be significantly brighter.
 
It is very likely it is defective.

Do the below:

Test to be done under below lighting conditions:

Artificial/Tube/LED light/Dark room/Not too much sunlight - (Indoors)

Autobrightness should be on/shouldn’t be turned off

Set brightness level manually to around 50%

Open Safari Google.com white background

Observe for 5-10 seconds

Turn off auto brightness

Again open same page on Safari Google.com

Wait 15-30 seconds

If brightness level increases a lot, ALS is defective. If brightness level stays same, phone is perfect.

Don’t do test at 100/0% brightness. Only middle level brightness. Don’t do test outside.

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There's obviously something wrong... with your Mini. 🧐
Ya, that's what these MR people will tell him. The truth is I am 99% sure he has a defective MAX, 1% it might have some wrong setting on by default. My setting will prove it either way. No need to research settings.
 
Check the most recent posts.

 
Make sure that Accessibility -> Display -> Reduce White Point is turned OFF on both devices. Disable auto-brightness on both phones (same menu). Then compare again.

If the problem persists it has to be the screen, many people are experiencing these problems with their new phones (yellow tint/dim screen).
Every year the first batches will have some bad screens, but this year it seems much more prevalent. and apple being apple is just silent about it.
 
Make sure that Accessibility -> Display -> Reduce White Point is turned OFF on both devices. Disable auto-brightness on both phones (same menu). Then compare again.

If the problem persists it has to be the screen, many people are experiencing these problems with their new phones (yellow tint/dim screen).
Every year the first batches will have some bad screens, but this year it seems much more prevalent. and apple being apple is just silent about it.

You’re not supposed to disable AB and that’s exactly the point. Nobody uses their iPhone with AB off. I don’t think you’ve even read the posts I have posted.
 
You’re not supposed to disable AB and that’s exactly the point. Nobody uses their iPhone with AB off. I don’t think you’ve even read the posts I have posted.
Yes I've read your post and your 100 other posts in other threads. Auto-brightness is more aggressive on the new phones for some reason. That's why you have to turn it off to really compare the brightness.
If the Ambient Light Sensor is defect you may be experiencing what you said, but my phone does not have this, I tested what you said.
 
Yes I've read your post and your 100 other posts in other threads. Auto-brightness is more aggressive on the new phones for some reason. That's why you have to turn it off to really compare the brightness.
If the Ambient Light Sensor is defect you may be experiencing what you said, but my phone does not have this, I tested what you said.

If your phone cleared the test your ALS works fine and your brightness will be great and your phone is perfect. Then there is no issue.
 
If brightness level increases a lot, ALS is defective. If brightness level stays same, phone is perfect.

I've seen you posting this test a lot on Macrumors. Why are you so sure about your claims of this being a defect?

I have no problems at all with my 12 mini, but when I do your exact test just for fun, the brightness level actually does go up a bit after a short while. So according to you, the ambient light sensor is defective. However, I know for a fact that it's not defective, as it reacts perfectly well when I point a flashlight at the phone it increases brightness etc.

Do you have any references or articles that actually confirm your claims of defective ALS? It appears to me it's not as much as a defective, but more a different calibration of the ALS for these new oled panels compared to the old retina displays.
 
I've seen you posting this test a lot on Macrumors. Why are you so sure about your claims of this being a defect?

I have no problems at all with my 12 mini, but when I do your exact test just for fun, the brightness level actually does go up a bit after a short while. So according to you, the ambient light sensor is defective. However, I know for a fact that it's not defective, as it reacts perfectly well when I point a flashlight at the phone it increases brightness etc.

Do you have any references or articles that actually confirm your claims of defective ALS? It appears to me it's not as much as a defective, but more a different calibration of the ALS for these new oled panels compared to the old retina displays.
You gotta be kidding me?

I won’t repeat myself. Go to a store and test on 100+ pieces yourself. The result would be interested.
 
If your phone cleared the test your ALS works fine and your brightness will be great and your phone is perfect. Then there is no issue.
Well I was wrong, I did your little test and it does gets brighter after a while. But as I said, it seems like AB is calibrated differently on these new panels.
 
Well I was wrong, I did your little test and it does gets brighter after a while. But as I said, it seems like AB is calibrated differently on these new panels.
It isn’t. Check the proof I’ve shared. It includes a 12 PM guy. Just that the defect is so common it’s like half their stock isn’t working as intended.
 
The 12 PM guy I talked to, his iPhone works as intended and is defect free. Check the proof links. So many OLED iPhone users there. Most from this forum itself. Shared their names, PM them.
 
Ok well, seeing how much Apple has ****ed up this year's iPhone production I'm inclined to believe your theory that it's another hardware/sensor problem.
 
You gotta be kidding me?

I won’t repeat myself. Go to a store and test on 100+ pieces yourself. The result would be interested.

Sorry? My post wasn't meant offensive (or defensive to apple for that matter), I just asked some questions regarding your tests.

Do you have any references for the defective ALS? Please re-read my post, because my ALS actually works fine here, even though it didn't pass your test. How do you explain that?
 
When i set the brightness levels to be equal, i notice my mini screen does look a little brighter and less dull than my 12 pro also, which i find interesting. The grey points seem slightly different too, with the mini being a little more warm to my eyes. So their screens look slightly different in dark mode also.

I do like both displays and when used independently I don't notice the differences.

I chalk it up to different display manufacturers. Not sure if every 12 pro is the same though, I have had two units, a pacific blue i returned and a graphite i currently am using and liking. Both of those displays were very close to indistinguishable between them.
 
Sorry? My post wasn't meant offensive (or defensive to apple for that matter), I just asked some questions regarding your tests.

Do you have any references for the defective ALS? Please re-read my post, because my ALS actually works fine here, even though it didn't pass your test. How do you explain that?
I have done extensive personal assessments on many devices under varied conditions, directly and indirectly both. Look up the quotes and screenshots I posted. So many people with nice bright screens can’t be wrong.

People with dim display are the ones finding a solution. If they do the test, I’m sure almost all those iPhones would fail. Because I have now tested this across so many OLED iPhones that it isn’t funny.

Sometimes the defect is severe. Other times not so. Some people might not mind a light defect as it is inconsequential. But for some with severe defect, replacing multiple times will finally get them a perfect one. The way I’ve described.
 
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Ok well, seeing how much Apple has ****ed up this year's iPhone production I'm inclined to believe your theory that it's another hardware/sensor problem.
Technically it might be possible to fix via firmware but Apple won’t because hardly anybody is reporting this to Apple. So they don’t care. And this problem has been there since iPhone X. I don’t think they will fix. Even if it’s fixable as it’s just miscalibration. But yes, this is a hardware issue short of a miracle from Apple.
 
When i set the brightness levels to be equal, i notice my mini screen does look a little brighter and less dull than my 12 pro also, which i find interesting. The grey points seem slightly different too, with the mini being a little more warm to my eyes. So their screens look slightly different in dark mode also.

I do like both displays and when used independently I don't notice the differences.

I chalk it up to different display manufacturers. Not sure if every 12 pro is the same though, I have had two units, a pacific blue i returned and a graphite i currently am using and liking. Both of those displays were very close to indistinguishable between them.
Dude that’s not a defect. Pro is brighter. It is supposed to be. That’s normal.
 
Sorry? My post wasn't meant offensive (or defensive to apple for that matter), I just asked some questions regarding your tests.

Do you have any references for the defective ALS? Please re-read my post, because my ALS actually works fine here, even though it didn't pass your test. How do you explain that?
Auto brightness will work normally. This defect doesn’t change that. It just doesn’t allow enough light to enter. So leads to wrong calibration. But works normally with a dimmer display.
 
Dude that’s not a defect. Pro is brighter. It is supposed to be. That’s normal.
No you misread - my MINI is brighter than the pro when i use siri to set both at equal brightness levels.

And my understanding is the pro only gets brighter in the most brightest environments, aka bright sunlight outdoors. Normal indoor lighting one display isn't brighter than the other. The pro's have higher max brightness, not brighter displays in all environments.
 
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