Why is Safari so awful?

Discussion in 'OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)' started by nitromac, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. nitromac macrumors 6502

    Jul 29, 2012
    I try and I try to like it, but every time, it just ***** on me in the middle of something. I was trying to watch the keynote on apple.com yesterday (after it was finished, so no live stream). It wouldn't load. I was forced to watch it in Google Chrome, for which apple purposely uploaded a low-res, low framerate version.

    Youtube didn't work yesterday under the HTML5 trial. Had to decline and load through flash.

    And half the time I'm typing something, it will randomly white out whatever I had typed, and then after deleting 90% of the text, it shows back up, but only with the 10% remaining text that I hadn't erased.

    And there are black blocks that show up on youtube, this forum, engadget, basically every website I visit. I have to select the entire page to get rid of them.

    Seriously, apple.
  2. PalacePlayers macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2011
    Try it on the new retina MacBook Pro. Facebook is so slow and laggy it's actually useless. Like in useless. Hoping for an update very soon. Safari 6.0 on retina MacBook Pro is the worst product I've used by Apple bar none.
  3. Namtaro macrumors regular

    Dec 4, 2011
    It's definitely not Safari, but it's something else or how you configured it that's the problem.

    Everything that you have described has never happened to me on Safari. I actually switched from Chrome to Safari after version 6.0.

    Not sure of the Retina version though since I have the 2011 15inch Macbook Pro.
  4. stchman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2012
    St. Louis, MO
    Just use Firefox and be done with Safari. Firefox is a far superior browser over Safari.
  5. jk73 macrumors 6502

    Jul 19, 2012
    Safari on rMBP is atrocious. It's the worst experience I've had with an Apple product in years and years.
  6. theineffablebob macrumors regular

    Jul 29, 2012
    The only reason I use Safari on my rMBP is because it's still the smoothest browser. Firefox and Chrome aren't as smooth in scrolling which annoys me, so I just try and live with Safari's crashing and rendering problems.
  7. Sital macrumors 68000


    May 31, 2012
    New England
    Safari is the only one of the "three big" browsers that gives me problems. It does have the best gestures and animations, but those don't make up for the frustrations. I switched to Firefox and have been happy with it. When Safari 7 comes out I'll give it another try, but won't be holding my breath.
  8. PalacePlayers macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2011
    Are you serious? To me it's the scrolling that makes it useless. When I am scrolling down my facebook feed it lags so much it's almost not useable.

    If you aren't having the same experience as me it's interesting. Could this be a hardware problem on my Mac?
  9. Soundflunky macrumors regular

    Apr 29, 2012
  10. PalacePlayers macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2011
    Tons of other web sites renders horribly as well, facebook is just worst in class.
  11. JesalTV Guest

    Aug 24, 2012
    Well this is weird.

    Been a longtime Firefox user. Every year I give Safari a spin just for a laugh, and hate it after minutes.

    But after recent upgrade to Mountain Lion, I really like Safari! It's much better now (for me on my 2011 MBP 15" - with 16gb RAM, though).

    Love the full-screen option too, and have had zero problems in the last few weeks.
  12. Krazy Bill macrumors 68030

    Krazy Bill

    Dec 21, 2011
    This is another one of those enigmas I can't understand. While I never doubt the people here that claim these problems I just never experience them. Since OSX 10.5 most things have simply worked for me.

    Sure, there have been (and always will be) the blatant quirks and design flaws but I've yet to come across any show stoppers. I had a kernel panic back in '09 though if that makes anyone feel better.

    As far as browsers go, Safari has always worked blazingly fast for me. If there are any subtle differences between chrome, FireFox, Opera... I sure can't see them. (Although FireFox has a wealth of awesome plug-ins).

    A long time ago I resigned myself to try to use as many native Apple apps as I could which were made for the OS. Made sense then. Makes sense today.
  13. MacDawg macrumors Core


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
    I actually moved from Chrome to Safari because it was much quicker for me and works flawlessly

    Chrome is my second choice from time to time when I need 2 browsers open to login to sites

    I gave up on the slow and bloated Firefox long ago
  14. Amigaman macrumors regular


    Sep 29, 2007
    Greenville, MI
    I stuck with Chrome for a long time. However, Safari 6 on ML has won me over. I haven't had any issues with it so far.
  15. PalacePlayers macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2011
    I see that you have a retina display MacBook Pro, so I was curious on how Safari on your computer performs on these sites:

    - facebook, on your news feed especially
    - www.aftenposten.no
    - www.nrk.no
    - www.retinamacapps.com
    - www.vg.no

    Would have been great if you just told me how Safari performs on these sites, just regular fast and slower scrolling etc.
  16. Amigaman macrumors regular


    Sep 29, 2007
    Greenville, MI
    My Facebook feed loads and scrolls quickly. The first site on your list loaded slow and was very slow when scrolling. The 2nd and 4th sites both loaded and scrolled just fine. The 3rd link was dead. Hope this helps!
  17. Sital macrumors 68000


    May 31, 2012
    New England
    With the last couple of versions or so, Firefox is no longer slow. I did a side-by-side comparison of Safari 6 and Firefox (version 14, maybe, who can keep track) and Firefox was slightly faster rendering web pages. And memory and CPU use was similar with Safari better by a little bit. As usual, it's really just a matter of personal preference and for me Firefox's quirks < Safari's quirks.
  18. eternalife macrumors regular

    Jul 21, 2011
    Interesting to hear all the problems. I don't have any issues with Safari (recent releases). It is my browser of choice for everything but flash. I jump over to Chrome for that. I don't even have Flash installed on my machine (maybe that has something to do with it).
  19. limonade macrumors member


    Mar 17, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    I like Safari. I do. But I have to admit that some other browsers do what Safari can't do.

    I had the same issue with the keynote, I couldn't watch it in Safari so I had to watch it with Firefox, which is a little silly. You know, not being able to watch an Apple keynote on an Apple program.
  20. SR45 macrumors 65832


    Aug 17, 2011
    Started with Safari, went to Chrome for a few days, then returned to Safari. Don't know what apps you have, if they are Safari compatible or not, but I have no issues with mine running. ;) :)

    PS: I have Flash installed and works
  21. KScottMyers macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2009
    Orlando, FL
    Agreed - I can't really use other browsers. Safari just feels right. Its fast, renders pages fine and I never feel like I'm missing any features. Just don't understand why others have issues with it.

    If you also consider how it ties into iCloud for tabs and bookmark syncing for iOS, OS X and Windows - its pretty amazing.
  22. dowser81 macrumors newbie

    Aug 27, 2012
    Bo'ness in Scotland
    It just isn't

    What are you talking about works fine on my rMBP
  23. skywavesli macrumors regular


    Nov 19, 2008
    Ditto. Runs fine on my rMBP too.
  24. PalacePlayers macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2011
    Hm, weird. How does these sites perform then?

  25. chrono1081 macrumors 604


    Jan 26, 2008
    Isla Nublar
    Safari works perfectly fine for me. Its my favorite browser (on Mac).

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