iPhone X Why is the bezel on the XR so big?

Rogifan

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Is it a function of LCD vs OLED? Or intentional to make the XR seem a little less premium? The color matched wallpapers for the XR models are cool but they really do accentuate the bezels. IMO if the XR bezels were as thin as the XS it would be perfect in terms of design.



 

Rogifan

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The LCD screens they use cannot bend around the edge like OLED can. It's actually fairly impressive they can get them as close to the edge as they do on the XR.
But the side bezels on the 8 look thinner than the XR.

 

profets

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But the side bezels on the 8 look thinner than the XR.

I think the bezels on the 8 are actually bigger than those on the XR? Just that photos make it look deceiving. Even in the first photo you have of the XS, Max and XR the bezels look smaller on the XS than they actually look in person.

Ahh, can't recall exactly. But when looking at the dimensions of the 8 and XR, along with the width of the actual screen on both, it seemed that there was a bigger difference from case width to screen width with the 8 than with the XR.

Edit: Just looked it up for the XR, 8 Plus and XS (couldn't find just the 8).

XR: 10.7mm difference between phone width and screen width

8 Plus: 9.6mm difference between phone width and screen width

XS: 9.1mm difference between phone width and screen width

XS Max: 8.1mm difference between phone width and screen width

Weird. Using measurements from apple.com and screen measurements from here (not sure the accuracy)
 
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Of course the bezels on the 8 are thinner, and the XR could've gone that thin too, but probably not from the bottom where the display controller is, and they had to maintain symmetry. Another reason is to up sell to the XS. The bezels could've been thinner, but apple probably chose not to
 

Ortiz83

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Is it a function of LCD vs OLED? Or intentional to make the XR seem a little less premium? The color matched wallpapers for the XR models are cool but they really do accentuate the bezels. IMO if the XR bezels were as thin as the XS it would be perfect in terms of design.



Of course it’s less premium. If it wasn’t, it’d be starting of at $999.99 as well.
 

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Because LCD can't be curved on the chin like OLED due to being thicker and having a backlight

If you notice the XR has a chin like the other Android phones with a notch although Apple was smarter, instead of leaving the chin and the bezels on the sides and up super slim, they made the bezels the same size as the chin so it looks symmetrical.
 

Caspavio

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i think apple just made the sizes thicker so that it is uniform on all sides. I suspect that the difference between XR and XS isnt as big as we think. see how the display pic in XS hides the notch and 1 side of the bezel, while the bright red display pic fully accentuates the bezel.
 

Rogifan

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Of course the bezels on the 8 are thinner, and the XR could've gone that thin too, but probably not from the bottom where the display controller is, and they had to maintain symmetry. Another reason is to up sell to the XS. The bezels could've been thinner, but apple probably chose not to
Makes sense if there’s a technical limitation with the display controller. With the display rounding into the corners it’s not possible to have asymmetrical bezels.
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Because LCD can't be curved on the chin like OLED due to being thicker and having a backlight

If you notice the XR has a chin like the other Android phones with a notch although Apple was smarter, instead of leaving the chin and the bezels on the sides and up super slim, they made the bezels the same size as the chin so it looks symmetrical.
Makes sense.
 

x-evil-x

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the only way id rock this screen is with a case then comes up to the top of the glass and hides how huge it is
 

anthony13

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The XR hype is a little funny to me because it is in many ways an inferior product and yet there’s this push in the media that it’s the ‘one to wait for’. But the year old X is in many ways superior and the XS is definitely the better product. Sure it’s cheaper but the majority of buyers never pay these things off anyways so we’re really talking about a few dollars difference in monthly payments. Wonder how many more XS’s would be selling if Apple offered them in colors.
 

YoitsTmac

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The XR hype is a little funny to me because it is in many ways an inferior product and yet there’s this push in the media that it’s the ‘one to wait for’. But the year old X is in many ways superior and the XS is definitely the better product. Sure it’s cheaper but the majority of buyers never pay these things off anyways so we’re really talking about a few dollars difference in monthly payments. Wonder how many more XS’s would be selling if Apple offered them in colors.
Agreed, I think the X on the used market is the smart buy
 

ftaok

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The XR hype is a little funny to me because it is in many ways an inferior product and yet there’s this push in the media that it’s the ‘one to wait for’. But the year old X is in many ways superior and the XS is definitely the better product. Sure it’s cheaper but the majority of buyers never pay these things off anyways so we’re really talking about a few dollars difference in monthly payments. Wonder how many more XS’s would be selling if Apple offered them in colors.
In today's age, the media always has an agenda. And that agenda is not always grounded in truth or fairness. You have to look at the narrative and think independently.

To me, it's obvious that the media is trying to drive the stock price down. The Xr gives them a few ways to control the narrative to drive AAPL down.

1. Claim that the Xr is the iPhone that will be the most popular iPhone (note - I'm not saying that it isn't, it very well may be the best value. In fact, it probably is since the most expensive is rarely the best value). This leads to point 2.

2. Since Xr has a lower retail price than both the Xs and Max, the media will then claim that the ASP will go down.

3. Next, the media knows full well that an "s" upgrade cycle typically has better availability, but they will still point to the fact that shipping dates are falling as quickly as they did previously. Thus, they claim that the sales of the Xs/Max are "underwhelming".

4. Do all of this during the "Quiet Period" where Apple is forbidden to make public statements, therefore Apple cannot refute the narrative.

5. Wait for the stock price to drop.

6. Tell their clients to buy at AAPL's low point.

7. Wait for Apple to make a public statement (usually a few days after the iPhone is available) indicating that the iPhone has had broke another sales record.

8. Profit when AAPL goes up.
 

Rogifan

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In today's age, the media always has an agenda. And that agenda is not always grounded in truth or fairness. You have to look at the narrative and think independently.

To me, it's obvious that the media is trying to drive the stock price down. The Xr gives them a few ways to control the narrative to drive AAPL down.

1. Claim that the Xr is the iPhone that will be the most popular iPhone (note - I'm not saying that it isn't, it very well may be the best value. In fact, it probably is since the most expensive is rarely the best value). This leads to point 2.

2. Since Xr has a lower retail price than both the Xs and Max, the media will then claim that the ASP will go down.

3. Next, the media knows full well that an "s" upgrade cycle typically has better availability, but they will still point to the fact that shipping dates are falling as quickly as they did previously. Thus, they claim that the sales of the Xs/Max are "underwhelming".

4. Do all of this during the "Quiet Period" where Apple is forbidden to make public statements, therefore Apple cannot refute the narrative.

5. Wait for the stock price to drop.

6. Tell their clients to buy at AAPL's low point.

7. Wait for Apple to make a public statement (usually a few days after the iPhone is available) indicating that the iPhone has had broke another sales record.

8. Profit when AAPL goes up.
Yep. And people say Tesla is the most shorted stock.
 
Agreed, I think the X on the used market is the smart buy
Completely disagree. Presumably a used X and new XR are approximately the same cost, and for that you get...

XR has
-Much faster processor
-Better camera
-Larger display
-Much better battery life
-Fun colors

X has
-OLED display (I have the X and honestly thought I'd care about this, but in practice I can't tell at all)
-Stainless Steel frame (personally don't care about this, and it makes the phone heavier)
-3D touch (I don't think most people use this, except for the places where the XR will get haptic touch)
-slightly thinner bezels (I'll have to judge in person, but not expecting this to be a big deal)
- 2nd "telephoto" lens (I'd argue this is the biggest advantage over the XR, but since the XR camera has the XS improved wide-angle lens this is kind of a wash)

To me the XR is a pretty substantial upgrade over the X. In fact, I know some people were considering actually upgrading for X to XR
 

mprime_17

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I think the bezels on the 8 are actually bigger than those on the XR? Just that photos make it look deceiving. Even in the first photo you have of the XS, Max and XR the bezels look smaller on the XS than they actually look in person.

Ahh, can't recall exactly. But when looking at the dimensions of the 8 and XR, along with the width of the actual screen on both, it seemed that there was a bigger difference from case width to screen width with the 8 than with the XR.

Edit: Just looked it up for the XR, 8 Plus and XS (couldn't find just the 8).

XR: 10.7mm difference between phone width and screen width

8 Plus: 9.6mm difference between phone width and screen width

XS: 9.1mm difference between phone width and screen width

XS Max: 8.1mm difference between phone width and screen width
Huawei gave some numbers at their mate 20 event:

XR: 5.1mm
XS/max: 4mm
The 8 plus and past iphones should be around the 4mm of the XS.



Seems kinda true given how it looks on videos and their press images.

Probably not an issue for most people.
 
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