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matttye

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Used Android for about three years, HTC desire, Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S3.

iPhone is smoother than Android (even the S3 with Jelly Bean update is not AS smooth, albeit a huge improvement), it's guaranteed to receive several updates and the Apple ecosystem is better than Googles IMO.

There's not much in it.
 

HappyJB

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Sep 11, 2012
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The link you posted about the screen doesn't state much specs and doesn't consider real-world results either. Take a look and Anandtech's or DisplayMate comparisons. Those are real display specialists and come to totally different conclusions. iSuppli usually estimate costs of components, they're not reviewers. They didn't talk about most important specs and focused mainly on physical dimensions for some reason. The GS3 has a blue tint, PenTile matrix, over vibrant color and much lower sRGB color accuracy.

My personal ideal screen size would be around 3.8", but I do have small hands. I did state that was personal.

A Galaxy Nexus, even with JB, is much less fluid than an iPhone 4S, let alone a 5. It also has outdated specs and a terrible camera. I heard from owners it has a very bad battery life and it was its weakest point, along with the camera. It however is well priced I must admit. Given that's it's fairly old tech it's more of a mid-range phone right now and should more be compared with the iPhone 4/4S (which are also still for sale at a lower price) IMO.
I have galaxy nexus with jelly bean. I have been enjoying jelly bean a bit more than 2 month now. Now I see lags on iPhone 4s. My nexus is very responsive as well. Benchmarks? Yes, my galaxy nexus kills every benchmarks (geekbench, browsermark &sunspider) battery life is ok. Just for you, my nexus has 62% battery after using 11h & 18min. Not bad, isn't it?

I mean to say 'my galaxy nexus kills iphone 4s on every benchmarks...'
 
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pgiguere1

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Just for you, my nexus has 62% battery after using 11h & 18min. Not bad, isn't it?

That doesn't mean much if we don't know your settings / brightness / tasks.

Here's a comparison from Anandtech:

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The iPhone 5 wasn't released when those tests were done but you get the point, the iPhone 5 has maybe twice the GNex's battery life.
 

skidbubble

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Most people know what an iphone looks like.
Most people don't know what an "insert android brand" looks like.

Of course people are going to know what an iphone looks like when it looks the same and hasn't changed (much) for almost 4 years.
 

daveathall

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I have had both the iPhone 4S and 5 and have tried them out against the Galaxy S3, at the moment I prefer the S3.

I have not found any lag, battery issue, lack of apps or a need to flash or ROM my phone, I find the interface as smooth as ios and have also had an update since getting it about two months ago.

I'm not saying that it is any better than an iPhone, but it certainly is not worse. I think there is a lot of misinformation spread about Android by people that IMHO have not used the system. At the moment it works best for me. Both systems are IMHO superb, but different from each other.
 
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darster

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Of course people are going to know what an iphone looks like when it looks the same and hasn't changed (much) for almost 4 years.

Why change a good thing. Thats called great advertising. The iPhone has become ingrained in everyday life, something a Samsung, Motorola, etc, never will be. It shows in the Apple ads. Apple doesn't talk about any other device with their commericals. Samsung has to constantly compare itself to the iPhone in theirs. Most people would consider that a loser mentality.
 

NovemberWhiskey

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iCloud is a feature that keeps me sticking with the iPhone.

really? icloud? lol. Even Steve Jobs hated how icloud turned out.

I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus. Previously a 3GS owner, and moved to Android since then (Droid X, X2, Charge, Nexus).

The iphone 5 is perfection. The speed, the screen PQ, the precision/reliability, the overall dimensions. Personally I would prefer an even larger screen (4.5 maybe) but that is just me. Otherwise the phone is near perfect. Battery life has been amazing ever since the Verizon patch.

PERFECTION. And this is coming from someone that thought iOS was on its last legs.
 

PlatinuM195

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Jul 24, 2009
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There are a few major reasons I'll stick with Apple although I've bought my share of Android devices over the years. Of course there's the spec wars between different phones and never ending screen size increases, but what's kept me with iOS are more of the non-speccy features:

Ecosystem
The accessory market is huge. Cases, docks, speakers and car accessories; it's even more of a bonus when my accessories are somewhat future proofed.

Airplay mirroring works great with my iPhone at the moment. If i bought an iPad or MBP they'll integrate seamlessly with Airplay.

The software ecosystem and software updates are unrivaled. S-Cloud? With iCloud I know it's at least a medium term product.

Passbook may not have the best support but it's getting a lot of major players onboard. NFC is a great tech but without the partners it's a lot less useful.

Service and support
Have never had a problem claiming a warranty issue from Apple directly or from my carrier. It's usually sorted out extremely quickly. The situation with international warranty is even easier, I can just enter the serial number of the iDevice into the local Apple website and it sorts everything out.
 

HappyJB

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Sep 11, 2012
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That doesn't mean much if we don't know your settings / brightness / tasks.

Here's a comparison from Anandtech:

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The iPhone 5 wasn't released when those tests were done but you get the point, the iPhone 5 has maybe twice the GNex's battery life.

I set brightness at 60%, except for Youtube which I auto set at 100% using Tasker. I made around 20 min calls, web browsing/viewing photos/Youtube/email check/Social Networking/Tapatalk etc about 1.5 hour. Wifi on. GPS off (again set auto off when connected specific wifi using Tasker). 3G & GPS is on about 1 hr when I am on the go. 62% left after 11 hr 18 min. If 3g & gps on all that time, I guess around 30% would be left. I do not have battery optimisation app.

iPhone 5 has, I think, 1,440 mah (10 mah more than iPhone 4s). If you play iPhone 5 with full 4 inch screen and 3.5 inch iPhone 4s side by side, I would imagine iPhone 5 would not last longer than 4S.

Btw, do not trust the battery % showing on iOS6 device. I guess iOS6 has a bug. My iPad 2 showing 100% still after playing about 30 min. A geek played iPhone 5 a bit more than 20 min, but only loose 1% (100% to 99%). See also following Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnwd...JwyU3Pbzfy20mCVSmg&index=3&feature=plpp_video

This guy started charging iPhone 5 at 6% and checked % periodically. until 85%, it charges 10% in every 10 min, but it starts charging slow at 85 % and it takes 17 min to charge the last 2% (98% to 100%)
 

MH01

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Just curious on what you guys think...

Nothing to do with better.

It's about choice, what you want out of the device, and how much you like to customise your experience/stay with an ecosystem.

Both have their pros and cons. Don't get bought into the specs, thinnest etc etc, all that mean nothing, holding the device and using it for a while will tell you all you need to know.
 

skidbubble

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Ecosystem
The accessory market is huge. Cases, docks, speakers and car accessories; it's even more of a bonus when my accessories are somewhat future proofed.

Most of which no longer work with the newest iPhone, unless you purchase expensive ($30-40) adapters. No longer do you have the ease, convenience and simplicity of using one cable interchangeably between iPhone / iPod and iPad. Now, one must carry and / or use a second cable / plug, etc. Accessories are not future proofed, they are obsolete with the iPhone 5.
 

LouieSamman

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Jul 23, 2008
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really? icloud? lol. Even Steve Jobs hated how icloud turned out.

Well considering that no other devices can save the entire phone or tablet's apps, settings, & data to the cloud, I think its a good reason.

I would never have to worry that if something were to happen to my phone that I won't just lose everything and all i would have to do is get another one, sign in, and everything is back to normal.

Just a software feature that I really like over the android.

I do however love a bigger screen but 4" is doing just fine for me...for now.
 

MH01

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They don't talk about a single virus in any of these articles. Kaspersky is worried for the future of OS X since the Flashback Trojan and other malwares that aren't viruses.

When there was no malicious software on OSX in the day, macs were safe. I am afraid we have to be vigilant now, and just cause a "virus" does not exist on a mac, other forms of malware can in the future really ruin your day.
 

roxxette

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Well considering that no other devices can save the entire phone or tablet's apps, settings, & data to the cloud, I think its a good reason.

I would never have to worry that if something were to happen to my phone that I won't just lose everything and all i would have to do is get another one, sign in, and everything is back to normal.

Just a software feature that I really like over the android.

I do however love a bigger screen but 4" is doing just fine for me...for now.

I could be wrong bu i think on android you can backup your setting, photos and other crap on dropbox; i know you could do that on iphone long before icloud because i used it a lot BUT you had to jailbreak.
 

MonkeySee....

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Sep 24, 2010
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At the end of the day, Android or iOS is user preference. You can't say one is better than the other, it's like comparing BMW to Mercedes.

I was taking your points on board untill you said OSX can get viruses. You ruined your whole post.
 

Dave.UK

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Sep 24, 2012
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And...with iOS you actually can get your OS updated to the latest release so that your new phone is not downlevel for 2 years....

Yes and no! This is a very clever technique by Apple. On older iphones, although you think your getting ios6 - your not getting the full package.

iphone 3 and 3G do not get ios6.

iphone 3GS misses out on the following features of ios 6 - 3D Flyover or turn-by-turn navigation features of the new Maps app, Panorama mode or the offline reading list feature. Location-based Reminders, WiFi Personal Hotspot, FaceTime, AirPlay Mirroring and Siri.

iphone 4 misses out on the following features - 3D Flyover or turn-by-turn navigation features of the new Maps app, Panorama mode or the offline reading list feature, Facetime, Made for iphone hearing aids and Siri.

So although you think your getting updates, your not getting the FULL update.
 

paulsalter

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Well considering that no other devices can save the entire phone or tablet's apps, settings, & data to the cloud, I think its a good reason.

Never tried it so don't know how reliable it is

but my Android tablet backs that info up to google
 

MonkeySee....

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Never tried it so don't know how reliable it is

but my Android tablet backs that info up to google

FWIW its very good. I always restore from iCloud and with put my phone back to how it was since I backed it up last. Apps and everything :)
 

VulchR

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Jun 8, 2009
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The basis of my personal preference for the iPhone boils down to aesthetics and to the ecosystem.

In regard to aesthetics, I just think that the iPhone has a more elegant GUI. It does not have the flexibility of Android, but honestly there's not much I would want to change about iOS anyway. Perhaps quick toggles for turning on/off WiFi etc. would be nice on the search page, but for me that's about it.

In regard to the ecosystem, I might surprise some by saying that iOS's links with the App Store, iTunes, and OS X are only a secondary concern for me. My primary issue is that Google makes money from information collected from Android users. The mobile phone user in the Android/Google ecosystem is not the customer - advertisers are. For me, that's a huge disadvantage of Android that can't simply be argued away by massive Samsung screens or widgets.

In any case, there are only limited ways to use a mobile phone. I expect that over time basic functionality on all phones will be pretty much the same, with only hardware quality and GUI seperating models from different vendors. If Apple keeps iOS elegant and they maintain high quality control (there are signs that they are slipping), then I probably stay with them. If not, I would consider Microsoft's mobile OS.
 

Oletros

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Problem with android is fragmentation. That is indisputable. It is difficult for amateur developers and even companies to develop for android. Imagine how many devices with android oS there are, imagine the idea of having to test your app on every android device to see if it works, now imagine only the top 3 phones are chosen to develop for because it is infeasible to test the app on every phone. You run into issues where app works for phone x but not for phone y. The app will probably crash for phone z. Now imagine that phone X, Y, and Z all run on different hardware. Good luck debugging.

on iOS you have one hardware software platform to develop for similar to developing apps for windows. It's a lot more intuitive so that is why the apps for iOS are a lot better than android. Also runs faster because it's native coding. At least most apps are native. Some companies try to develop in HTML 5 and that is just a bad idea.

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Also to note on android a lot of companies take shortcuts and develop using XML. XML is interpreted like HTML is. Android is a virtual machine that runs on top of JIT. Just in time compilation. In layman terms all you need to know is that it is slower. SO you have XML code that is interpreted on top of a virtual machine that uses JIT. It's double interpreted and that is why you need such high powered hardware to run android efficiently. In android 4.1 jelly bean they sped up the OS by over-clocking the processor in order to interpret all that garbage so it doesn't appear sluggish. Completely inefficient operating system that will eventually choke itself to death.


I don't know where to start to correct all the wrong statements you have made.

Wll, I will only correct two things:

1. XML is used to define the layout of controls and the it is compiled
2. Android 3.1 doesn't overclock anything.

Please, before demonstrating that you don't know nothing about Android, try to read and lear a little

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That's the problem with media, they don't know the difference between virus, trojans or worms.

Those are not virus, are trojans.

OS X, iOS or Android don't have virii

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I can say that iOS is better than Android because I know how they work. If you study the iOS it's actually very smart and very powerful operating system based on mach unix.

Android is ran on JIT. It's like running your operating system on the .net framework. Then add in the inefficiencies of java and xml. Garbage collection = dumb concept.

mach is not an operating system, it is a kernel. And what has to be so smart?

Android doesn't run on JIT, Android APPLICATIONS run on the Dalvik VM
 
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