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Definitely a discrepancy! If the prices are indeed higher I think that they may be trying to recoup some of what they lose in subsidies and/or drive people into contract land for the long haul.

I don't understand why Apple.com specifically lists the Verizon iPhone for a retail price of $599 and $699 where the Verizon website shows it 50 bucks higher.
 
ATT and Verizon are both great in my area...neither are clear winners here so either side saying one is better than the other is ignoring the fact that in certain areas one may be better than the other and vice versa

Agreed!
 
$649 without contract, ON A SLOWER ****ING NETWORK. Wow...

Why are you inquiring about why VZW cost more and then turn around and slam Verizon for being slow? People normally inquire about a product because they are interested in purchasing.. why would you want to purchase a phone on a slow network as you claim?

How does Verizon network crush Att?

Its pretty clear in these video between VZW iphone and ATT iphone which is faster..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrefZVVXIM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiMYds-eUMw

It's also clear based on CR survey that VZW customer service and carrier is better than ATT. Even further... AT&T CEO acknowledges this as a problem.
 
I was on the boat where AT&T was better than Verizon. But report after report after study after report after more studies that show AT&T on the bottom and Verizon on the top, I mean it's hard to think otherwise. There has to be some correlation to AT&T's negative numbers and carrier service.
 
I was on the boat where AT&T was better than Verizon. But report after report after study after report after more studies that show AT&T on the bottom and Verizon on the top, I mean it's hard to think otherwise. There has to be some correlation to AT&T's negative numbers and carrier service.

People tend to either put on blinders
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or stick their head in the sand..
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when it comes to a product or a company they love.. regardless of the facts.
 
IMO, Verizon is definitely better than AT&T

But honestly, you really cant take that study seriously when US Cellular is ranked #1 in cell phone carriers, and for sure AT&T is better than Sprint and T-mobile

You can take it seriously when you understand how they differentiate themselves from the others.

US Cellular offers:

-Free battery replacements for any phone they carry
-Free phone replacements (no insurance required) if defective
-1 year contracts on all phones; no strings attached
-5% discount if you go paperless billing
-Lots of loyalty programs

Seriously, if you can live with their regional coverage (and there's 6.2 million subscribers who can) they are pretty much the Southwest Airlines of the mobile carrier industry. Not the most glamorous thing in the world, but they have rabid fans and have eliminated a lot of the BS you'll get with the other guys.

Its pretty clear in these video between VZW iphone and ATT iphone which is faster..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrefZVVXIM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiMYds-eUMw

I've seen these videos posted earlier, but I've got a question that perhaps someone can answer?

I've got both Verizon and AT&T accounts. While I don't have an iPhone for Verizon yet (obviously), I experience far more consistent speeds using EVDO than I do via AT&T. Assuming I get a good signal (which isn't all the time) on AT&T, I can almost always get a speed test almost 50% faster than via Verizon. But if I lose so much as a single bar on AT&T, I'm lucky to get a third the speed of my Verizon gear.

The real difference between the two, however, is latency. Verizon latency is pretty peppy. AT&T, by comparison, is horrid....often takes 400ms or longer to start downloading anything. That makes the overall speed perceptively slower on AT&T than via Verizon.

Is this the norm for AT&T? Like something to do with how they enable their wireless broadband?

I've also read that those video's aren't reflective of reality due to the presence of Femtocell's at the conference. True or False?
 
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You can take it seriously when you understand how they differentiate themselves from the others.

US Cellular offers:

-Free battery replacements for any phone they carry
-Free phone replacements (no insurance required) if defective
-1 year contracts on all phones; no strings attached
-5% discount if you go paperless billing
-Lots of loyalty programs

Seriously, if you can live with their regional coverage (and there's 6.2 million subscribers who can) they are pretty much the Southwest Airlines of the mobile carrier industry. Not the most glamorous thing in the world, but they have rabid fans and have eliminated a lot of the BS you'll get with the other guys.



I've seen these videos posted earlier, but I've got a question that perhaps someone can answer?

I've got both Verizon and AT&T accounts. While I don't have an iPhone for Verizon yet (obviously), I experience far more consistent speeds using EVDO than I do via AT&T. Assuming I get a good signal (which isn't all the time) on AT&T, I can almost always get a speed test almost 50% faster than via Verizon. But if I lose so much as a single bar on AT&T, I'm lucky to get a third the speed of my Verizon gear.

The real difference between the two, however, is latency. Verizon latency is pretty peppy. AT&T, by comparison, is horrid....often takes 400ms or longer to start downloading anything. That makes the overall speed perceptively slower on AT&T than via Verizon.

Is this the norm for AT&T? Like something to do with how they enable their wireless broadband?

I've also read that those video's aren't reflective of reality due to the presence of Femtocell's at the conference. True or False?

To be totally honest... I don't care if ATT or VZW is "slightly" faster or not..
The whole purpose of a mobile phone is to make and receive calls at anytime I want. VZW has proved to be very reliable in fact 100% reliable... ZERO dropped calls from my experience in the NYC areas. People in other locations may have different results.
 
I don't understand why people get all butt hurt and try to defend ATT by saying "Well ATT has better coverage in my area, or its just as good as Verizon in this area!"

We acknowledge that. We know that.

What I think the opposing side is trying to inform you is that Verizon on a NATIONAL level (USA) has a better coverage and quality then ATT. Not to take away and say ATT is inferior in every way, of course it will have better or just as equal quality service in many areas, but as far as the whole "Wireless Phone" experience goes, Verizon is superior, its been proven time and time over again.

deal with it, or join the Red Side? :) (couldn't think of anything else better)

(awaits Pro-ATT'er to reply: ******* U we haz data+t@lk at same time!
 
Im not pro ATT or VZ but if someone complains and complains about ATT then why are you using ATT? Same goes for any other service for that matter. Ive been with ATT for a few years after gladly leaving Alltel (this was years ago mind you) and Ive had a VZ line for a few months. If i felt either was horrible I wouldnt continue to use their service.
 
They're smarter than AT&T, so to make sure they can handle the increased network load, they've increased the price to keep some from buying the phone. Pure genius!!!

$50? And only for those that pay full retail (idiots)?

Don't think so.
 
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