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Vista ate memory like a fat kid ate cake.

And so do 7 and Snow Leopard!

I don't think that you can blame today's operating systems for their memory usage.
The issue with Vista was that the average computer that times just didn't have enough memory.
 
And so do 7 and Snow Leopard!

I don't think that you can blame today's operating systems for their memory usage.
The issue with Vista was that the average computer that times just didn't have enough memory.
Sure you can blame if there is someone which does not. Linux does not eat that much memory.

Thanks,
Joe.
 
A fresh installation of Windows is lightning fast. Really responsive, no lag. Then a couple of weeks later, things feel a bit sluggish - opening Internet Explorer takes 5 seconds as opposed to nearly instant because the CPU is rattling away in the background doing god knows what..

My Windows 7 installation is heading down the same route. Fresh installation was great. Now it's been a couple of months and I've installed a fair few bits and bobs, the OS just feels laggy and generally frustrates me.

Don't get me wrong, OS X also frustrates me (Safari beach balling etc) but on a whole, OS X is much cleaner and stays cleaner longer compared to Windows.

Registry...
You could try something like Registry Mechanic or one of the hundreds of other such programs. I know its a nuisance and MS should provide something like that in the OS but it does help. I agree that things tend to slow down after a while in Windows but its much better in 7 than it was in XP from what I have seen. The background defragging helps too.
 
And so do 7 and Snow Leopard!

I don't think that you can blame today's operating systems for their memory usage.
The issue with Vista was that the average computer that times just didn't have enough memory.
I put a webapp on Windows & there were memory leaks galore that did not exist on other platforms.
 
A fresh installation of Windows is lightning fast. Really responsive, no lag. Then a couple of weeks later, things feel a bit sluggish - opening Internet Explorer takes 5 seconds as opposed to nearly instant because the CPU is rattling away in the background doing god knows what..

My Windows 7 installation is heading down the same route. Fresh installation was great. Now it's been a couple of months and I've installed a fair few bits and bobs, the OS just feels laggy and generally frustrates me.

Don't get me wrong, OS X also frustrates me (Safari beach balling etc) but on a whole, OS X is much cleaner and stays cleaner longer compared to Windows.

Registry...

Exactly! ;)
 
I don't know how Snow Leopard runs on modern Macs, but on my Mid 2007 MacBook it doesn't feel that fast to be honest. I have a dual boot with Windows 7 and I have to say, it's MUCH more responsive, doesn't feel sluggish at all and the graphics effects are pretty much always silky smooth. The last Mac OS X version that felt like this was 10.4 Tiger.

Snow Leopard is not slow on my MacBook, it just "feels" a bit sluggish at times and the graphics effects can become VERY choppy. If there is one thing that annoys me it is choppy graphics.

Pretty sure Snow Leopard runs better on modern Macs with dedicated GPU's, but when comparing Windows 7 to Snow Leopard on my Mid 2007 MacBook, Windows 7 is better speed-wise.
 
I don't know how Snow Leopard runs on modern Macs, but on my Mid 2007 MacBook it doesn't feel that fast to be honest. I have a dual boot with Windows 7 and I have to say, it's MUCH more responsive, doesn't feel sluggish at all and the graphics effects are pretty much always silky smooth. The last Mac OS X version that felt like this was 10.4 Tiger.

Snow Leopard is not slow on my MacBook, it just "feels" a bit sluggish at times and the graphics effects can become VERY choppy. If there is one thing that annoys me it is choppy graphics.

Pretty sure Snow Leopard runs better on modern Macs with dedicated GPU's, but when comparing Windows 7 to Snow Leopard on my Mid 2007 MacBook, Windows 7 is better speed-wise.
Something's not right with your SL install. Better clean install.
 
Most people here know that if you have two computers, both with the same hardware, and one is running Mac OS X and one is running Windows, the Mac is usually faster in most aspects.
I know that Windows is, in general, a much less efficient OS, but specifically, why?
I've heard that a lot of it is due to the fact that Windows will try to do 100 useless things if you ask it to do one simple thing, also I've heard that Microsoft wrote Windows by getting loads of people to go off and do different parts of the OS, then they would just paste it together rather than taking off the useless parts, fitting each part together and optimizing it.
I just need a more straightforward answer as I will be using it in an essay.

Thanks in advance

On my PC (Quad Core 3.00GHz, 4GB RAM, yada, yada...) Windows 7 feels much snappier than OS X...
 
I always do clean installs. It has been this way since 10.6.0.
My MBP on the integrated 9400M is snappy as can be with the Leopard system animations (which are pretty much the same as those in SL). Did you have 10.5 on it with no problems?
 
10.5 is pretty much the same story. The Intel GMA 950 in my MacBook is much slower than your 9400M and it also has pretty bad drivers.

Not much I can do about it, it just isn't silky smooth.
 
10.5 is pretty much the same story. The Intel GMA 950 in my MacBook is much slower than your 9400M and it also has pretty bad drivers.

Not much I can do about it, it just isn't silky smooth.

Ah, yes. I forgot about the Intel graphics cards... :rolleyes: I'm surprised that you find Win7 snappier with all that Aero animation. Do you have Aero turned off?

My old Dell tower has an Intel integrated; I quickly installed an ATI Radeon when I got the machine because that Intel thing is soooo bad. Plus it didn't support DVI at the time.
 
Ah, yes. I forgot about the Intel graphics cards... :rolleyes: I'm surprised that you find Win7 snappier with all that Aero animation. Do you have Aero turned off?

My old Dell tower has one; I quickly installed an ATI Radeon when I got the machine because that Intel thing is soooo bad. Plus it didn't support DVI at the time.
Aero is turned on, runs really well. :)
 
7 must get along better with the Intel graphics drivers, or something. :) It would make sense, since all the modern Macs have either Nvidia or ATI graphics now, which SL is bound to be optimized for.
 
is this supposed to be a troll thread? mac's hardware is almost always a year behind windows'.
 
"Snow Leopard consistently beats Windows 7 in many general performance areas." (source: CNET Performance showdown)

The only tests that everyone will see is boot and shutdown time. The other tests (multimedia multitasking and iTunes encoding) are not done generally by most consumers. How about application launch time with iTunes, OpenOffice, etc?

Also, they were both done on a Mac. I'd rather see a test with a PC of similar specs versus both on a Mac.

The point is that both operating systems can beat each other in different tests. Get 1000 tests and you'll get at least 900 different results.
 
Depends how you put faster into the terms.

If you mean boot times yes SL is faster.

But if you put it into how fast you can get things done on windows to OSX that's a different story. As I use win7 most of the time on my macbook now as i find it faster to do my work as the SVN clients are better less steps to get a update and commit. the PHP IDE's are better. but it will be different for each people.
 
is this supposed to be a troll thread? mac's hardware is almost always a year behind windows'.

Ummmm...no...Windows does not have hardware; PC's have hardware. And in any case, it's pretty much only the graphics cards that tend to lag behind.
 
one could argue cpus as well

True; but I don't really need a quad core (like the i5 or i7 iMacs). And the truth is most others don't either.

Right now, if you aren't using Handbrake, Photoshop, or another pro app, quad core is a waste IMO. That will change, of course, as developers rewrite more 'everyday' apps to take advantage of 4+ cores. A C2D is more than fast enough for everyday use. :)
 
True; but I don't really need a quad core (like the i5 or i7 iMacs). And the truth is most others don't either.

Right now, if you aren't using Handbrake, Photoshop, or another pro app, quad core is a waste IMO. That will change, of course, as developers rewrite more 'everyday' apps to take advantage of 4+ cores. A C2D is more than fast enough for everyday use. :)

quad core aside, apple has been slow to keep the core2duos up to snuff as well

the mini comes to mind
 
quad core aside, apple has been slow to keep the core2duos up to snuff as well

the mini comes to mind

It was just updated; it's a really competitive system now with 4 GB of RAM and the 2.66 GHz C2D option. Remember that it's not a full size tower!

Besides, the uMB (before it morphed into the 13" Pro) and uMBP had 1066 MHz buses on their C2Ds and 1066 MHz DDR3 RAM quite some time before most PC laptops had them. By "most" I mean the ordinary ones that aren't labelled as pro models (such as the Dell Latitudes).
 
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