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I think it looks nice in tvOS. It's too dependent on whatever is behind it in iOS which aside from aesthetics makes it very inconsistent (like flipping between light and dark as you scroll).
 
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I don't interact with a transparent world. My desk isn't transparent, my keyboard isn't transparent, my paperwork isn't transparent, my tv and monitor isn't transparent. Transparency sucks.
would be a lot cooler if they were though IMG_0021.jpeg
 
How many people had “make my OS beautiful” on their bingo card for features they want added to their OS?
Me? That’s literally the number 1 reason I chose MacOS and is the reason why I don’t like windows at all: it’s font rendering engine is ugly, the buttons, dialogs, windows, etc are ugly to loot at. Same for android although they both have improved they are still not as beautiful as apple’s OS’s. Especially windows god I hate windows and I’m glad I don’t have to look at it 🙂

A beautiful os like macOS (and ios) is a fundamental part of a nice experience when using a computer or phone.
 
Me? That’s literally the number 1 reason I chose MacOS and is the reason why I don’t like windows at all: it’s font rendering engine is ugly, the buttons, dialogs, windows, etc are ugly to loot at. Same for android although they both have improved they are still not as beautiful as apple’s OS’s. Especially windows god I hate windows and I’m glad I don’t have to look at it 🙂

A beautiful os like macOS (and ios) is a fundamental part of a nice experience when using a computer or phone.
I have a windows laptop for school and it SUCKS. My volume/brightness keys don’t work and ads keep getting shoved in my face. The battery also lasts an hour…
The face ID only works in bright light and don’t even get me started on the updates.
 
I said nothing about what I "like" because it's not germane. I'm not here to praise, I'm here to criticize. Not out of spite or churlishness, toward you or Apple, but because I want things to get better than they are. My OS isn't my friend, and Apple is just one company among many. Let them fight for my attention.
 
We all like different things. You can like your MacOS X ´Golden Days’ and I can like Liquid Glass.

You can like it. Hell I like it visually. But it's an objectively bad user experience due to the terrible low contrast and transparent elements, even with reduce transparency on.

You might be blessed with fully functional eyes for now but I can assure you in the hands of people who don't have that it's an absolute disaster that shouldn't have got past some trite thinking by a half brained monkey. I have two relatives that this is entirely show stopping for.

Not suggesting what we had before was good but this is objectively worse.

I ask you to consider, function over form. Would having Liquid Glass here improve things?

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Here's 7 reasons why Liquid Glass is beautiful/mesmerising/magnificen/elegant/majestic
1. It is constantly changing, so we never get bored of it

Good design is design one doesn't notice. Good design gets out of your way. I notice Liquid Glass.

3. It's refraction of light lets it have depth

Displays are 2D. They have no depth (ignoring atomic depth of the LCD/OLED panel, of course.) How would depth help design? Look at a print design product such as a newspaper or magazine, which are also 2D media just like iOS and macOS: would a newspaper be enhanced with "Liquid Glass" effects? Because, you know, you *could* apply Liquid Glass just as easily to a print edition of the New York Times. But wouldn't that be really stupid? Yes, it would be.
Why is "depth" a good thing? I think it's and erroneous hypothesis. One might argue a 3D game has depth (fake depth anyway; looks real enough for the intended use) and I think this is true, and it's good use of depth. However, is such depth useful in a OS? Look at the 3D UI in the movie "Jurassic Park." That UI is/was a *real* piece of software created by SGI called "File System Visualizer." Why didn't it catch on? There's probably a very good reason why such 3D UI's didn't catch on, and why 2D still dominates. Think about it.

4. It's colour is determined by what it's above, which makes it always look nice

This causes loss of contrast; makes many things unreadable, hard to read. One thing blends in with another. Text overlays text. Text and UI elements become garbled due to partial visibility of the wallpaper behind them. Poor design.

With Liquid Glass, Apple threw time-tested design basic principles out the window and created the biggest flop of an Apple OS in decades in the process.
 
You can like it. Hell I like it visually. But it's an objectively bad user experience due to the terrible low contrast and transparent elements, even with reduce transparency on.

You might be blessed with fully functional eyes for now but I can assure you in the hands of people who don't have that it's an absolute disaster that shouldn't have got past some trite thinking by a half brained monkey. I have two relatives that this is entirely show stopping for.

Not suggesting what we had before was good but this is objectively worse.

I ask you to consider, function over form. Would having Liquid Glass here improve things?

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That is completely different.
An airplane cockpit needs maximum function, a phone doesn’t. Also, if you turn on tinted, the whole ‘can’t see’ argument falls apart.
 
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Good design is design one doesn't notice. Good design gets out of your way. I notice Liquid Glass.



Displays are 2D. They have no depth (ignoring atomic depth of the LCD/OLED panel, of course.) How would depth help design? Look at a print design product such as a newspaper or magazine, which are also 2D media just like iOS and macOS: would a newspaper be enhanced with "Liquid Glass" effects? Because, you know, you *could* apply Liquid Glass just as easily to a print edition of the New York Times. But wouldn't that be really stupid? Yes, it would be.
Why is "depth" a good thing? I think it's and erroneous hypothesis. One might argue a 3D game has depth (fake depth anyway; looks real enough for the intended use) and I think this is true, and it's good use of depth. However, is such depth useful in a OS? Look at the 3D UI in the movie "Jurassic Park." That UI is/was a *real* piece of software created by SGI called "File System Visualizer." Why didn't it catch on? There's probably a very good reason why such 3D UI's didn't catch on, and why 2D still dominates. Think about it.



This causes loss of contrast; makes many things unreadable, hard to read. One thing blends in with another. Text overlays text. Text and UI elements become garbled due to partial visibility of the wallpaper behind them. Poor design.

With Liquid Glass, Apple threw time-tested design basic principles out the window and created the biggest flop of an Apple OS in decades in the process.
The notifications are the only hard to read thing. You can turn on tinted.
 
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I said nothing about what I "like" because it's not germane. I'm not here to praise, I'm here to criticize. Not out of spite or churlishness, toward you or Apple, but because I want things to get better than they are. My OS isn't my friend, and Apple is just one company among many. Let them fight for my attention
Thanks mate. You taught me two new words in ‘germane’ and ‘churlishness’
 
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The number of gaslighting threads about Liquid Glass lately is suss, although this one is a just a shameless copy of Kal Madda's biblical trainwreck.

Representing no one's opinion but my own: Praise and fandom over something as oblique as a user interface is a level of stupidity rivaling even sportsball fans. Ideas, processes, concepts improve through criticism alone. There's no point to "loving" Liquid Glass. It won't love you back, I promise, and Apple is only interested in your money, not you. Better to rip it and everything else Apple does to shreds, find the problems and demand better, to balance the relationship in favor of Apple earning that money instead of just being given it out of maudlin glee.
That makes for a terrible environment. Hate from wall to wall! Everything sucks! Boo! Hiss! Why on earth would I waste my time on a seething pit of hate?
 
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