Its truly incredible how no matter what Apple does there is always a group of people who will complain about it.
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Why MagSafe is a bad thing
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I heard the next MacBook Pro will have 4 MagSafe-, but no other ports. Also no WIFI or Bluetooth. So you can't really transfer any data or anything, but you can hyper-charge it on 4 outlets at the same time. ?
huh? magsafe was around since 2006
Did you though? It's not (only) about physical space. You'd need additional controllers in the M1 Pro/Max as well. They did add at least one additional controller. The 4th port was likely eaten by the HDMI and Card Reader so if you want to get that port back that's what you should be targeting. I don't know all the specifics but it's a bit bigger picture than you make it out to be.
I'm upgrading from an M1 MBA and I generally only had one USB-C port on that since one is eaten up by charging. Now, if I'm mobile, I still have three TB4/USB-C ports at my disposal. A huge improvement. At my desk, it's connected with one cable to a CalDigit TB4 Element Hub which powers it and hooks up a 4k monitor, peripherals, etc.
Also, afaik, USB-C is currently limited to 100W of power. MagSafe is delivering 140W.
I really don't know what there is to complain about.
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Hmm I think it's a stretch to say MagSafe is going to kill anything....
I've had 2 screens replaced on Windows laptops because one of the dogs has panicked when he got the cable wrapped around his leg.
The same dog with a 2012 rMBP just pulled the mag-safe lead out.
I'm glad it's back
The same dog with a 2012 rMBP just pulled the mag-safe lead out.
I'm glad it's back
People are complaining about this? MagSafe saved me a few times when my daughter was little. I wish my 2020 MacBook Pro had it.
People don’t trip everyday over a cord, but it takes one trip to cost a lot of money. They are called accidents for a reason.
People don’t trip everyday over a cord, but it takes one trip to cost a lot of money. They are called accidents for a reason.
Magsafe, killing other power delivery options since 2006.
When you walk over your cable and pull your laptop off the table and break it you'll wish it was magsafe
Just saving your MacBook once is worth it enough. You obviously haven’t gone to an Apple store and have them feed you a bunch of nonsense on how replacing the screen will cost you about the same or more than a brand new MacBook Air.
Plus I believe USB-C tops out at 100w
Plus I believe USB-C tops out at 100w
I’m fairly certain that no one has copied MagSafe because Apple has a patent. Microsoft has a pretty broad patent exchange with Apple so they may have a license or, because they also transmit data, they worked around the patent, or both.
Using USB-C as a single cable dock is probably fine since you are unlikely to trip over a cable that goes from your monitor to your notebook on your desk.
I was initially pretty skeptical of the return of MagSafe because of the power adapter. But I should have trusted Apple’s design and engineering. They didn’t make a MagSafe charger, they made a standard USB-C PD 3.1 charger and included a MagSafe cable. Worries avoided.
A mass consumer product didn’t fit EXACTLY to my desires so let’s go to macrumors dot com to complain about it!
This is the kind of take from somebody who probably liked the Touch Bar, thought the butterfly keyboard was great and thought getting rid of every other port was a good idea.
…USB C is from an industry consortium. It’s USB, it’s not going away.
This thread is…odd.
aww
that is no fun....
they ( or amazonians) will make an adaptor were USB c can run these MacBooks soons.
well here is my joke i'm thinking of now.
When Adam asked Eve how did you easily eat the
from that high treeing the walled garden,
Eve respond was "the snake was mag-safe instead of USB C"
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I just wish they'd do away with chargers completely and let me drop a pack of triple A batteries in when I need some extra juice.
My Palm IIIxe used two AAAs that lasted over a month.
So it’s a bad thing because of some idle speculation that won’t prove to be true anyway?
I would have 100% prefered the MagSafe port just be an extra Thunderbolt 4 port period.
I always hated the MagSafe in MacBooks (I have pay premium to get a spare one), this time I just kept it in the box (so that I don't get used to it).
I don't need it, when I connect the Macbook Pro as a desktop, the single USB-C/Thunderbolt cable it good enough for the data/video and power (I use CalDigit Dock/Hub).
When I am moving around the USB-C power adapters are everywhere to charge the Macbook Pro, and iPad Pro etc.
USB-C is Easy, less expensive, less cumbersome; MagSafe is just a PITA for the users - whether on Macbook Pro, iPhone, Airpods Pro etc. It's just a subtle and continuous income source for Apple (of course indirectly for me too, via stocks and options )
I don't need it, when I connect the Macbook Pro as a desktop, the single USB-C/Thunderbolt cable it good enough for the data/video and power (I use CalDigit Dock/Hub).
When I am moving around the USB-C power adapters are everywhere to charge the Macbook Pro, and iPad Pro etc.
USB-C is Easy, less expensive, less cumbersome; MagSafe is just a PITA for the users - whether on Macbook Pro, iPhone, Airpods Pro etc. It's just a subtle and continuous income source for Apple (of course indirectly for me too, via stocks and options
)
USB-C power is going nowhere. It’s part of the standard so you can’t just drop it and still call the port USB. Secondly, it’s used for powering the laptop when connected to a monitor.
The new MagSafe is nice. Detachable cable, and braided rather than the old style of instantly yellowing and crumbling plastic. Shame such obvious improvements took a decade longer than necessary but better late than never.
The new MagSafe is nice. Detachable cable, and braided rather than the old style of instantly yellowing and crumbling plastic. Shame such obvious improvements took a decade longer than necessary but better late than never.
I came here to say the same thing.
Everybody is missing the forest for the trees.
MagSafe is using USB-C for power delivery. The 140w adapter is the first USB-C PD 3.1 charger on the market.
USB-C can deliver high power with the PD 3.1 standard. Apple built it in to the charging block, but not the USB-C ports on the MacBook Pros themselves, probably for cost considerations.
But a MagSafe cable that’s detachable from the charging block is the big win here. MagSafe 1/2 cables frayed, now you’re dropping $80 for a whole new charger with built-in cable. With MagSafe 3, it’s a braided cable, hopefully lasting longer, but less expensive to replace when needed than before.
It’s the best of both worlds, using industry standards somewhat, but Apple proprietary magic where they can do it better. MagSafe is cool.
It's not just that. When I sit with the laptop in my lap the cord (USB C) would get pressed against the side of the couch, or the cushion I was working on. I always had to baby it to keep it from getting bent of completely snapping off. My laptop sometimes "slips" and with the USB-C that could mean a metal clip broken off inside the Mac. With mag-safe that's never a concern. It's a superior way or charging the laptop over USB C.
USB C is still a superior transfer port, which mag-safe isn't. It fullfills that purpose and for that reason I do not see anything happening to it. It has momentum now and will be sticking around until something better arises.
MacRumors members successfully found out yet another thing to complain! It’s heading to Forbes level;
“Why MagSafe port is a nasty surprise for Apple”
“Why MagSafe port is a nasty surprise for Apple”