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Why MagSafe is a bad thing

R3k said:
You can still charge via usb c as well no? Win for everyone.
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Nah… apple disabled that. They’re shoving MagSafe down our throats. Apple really hates us giving us very cool technology.

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I have a 70 lb. collie that comes into my home office. Cable management is difficult given the number of computers and monitors I have in here. I wish my iMac's magnetic cord/port was easier to disconnect like MagSafe. I worry he'll get tangled up in the cords and pull something off.

Pic of the culprit.
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IllIllIll said:
Wait what? Of course you can still charge through the Thunderbolt/USB-C ports. You're maxed out at 100W, however.
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I’m just having fun since it seems like this thread is getting some people bent out of shape.

It’s a really good back and forth, though, with interesting ideas on both sides. Personally, I love the MagSafe. It’s a non-intrusive, very cool thing… but I was also fine with usb-C only.

No big ?
 
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Rashy said:
And here we have the next clickbait/trolling thread.
"Why Magsafe is a bad thing" ... says who? A random individual? You speak for everyone? No, you don't, so why that provoking headline? Not any reviewer would agree with you, as they all praise the return of Magsafe (and ports) for good reasons:
  • Easier / faster to connect and disconnect
  • Doesn't wear out unlike a tiny-flimsy port
  • Failsafe against tripping
  • Has a status LED integrated
  • Has a thicker, braided cable
  • The entire system is modular, you can still use the charger with a standard USB-C cable
  • It won't "kill" USB-C (what a ridiculous assumption)
  • Afaik Magsafe is still patented, it won't be copied 1:1
If you prefer USB-C, then use that.


Nonsense again. You had to use one of those ports for charging anyway, so nothing changes here for like 99% of all users. In addition, barely anybody needed four USB-C ports on a laptop at once, unless in their perfect USB-C-only homestudio bubble (again, a minority). And finally, even those four ports only had two controllers, so bandwidth was cut. Now you have three. So with daisy-chaining/splitters, you basically get six full USB-C ports.
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Mic drop.

Is there anything else to add on here? /s
 
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IllIllIll said:
Wait what? Of course you can still charge through the Thunderbolt/USB-C ports. You're maxed out at 100W, however.
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Just have to ask but what USB – C cable are you using or can use to charge with The power brick that is best for our new MacBook Pro M1 Max. I see a lot of them on Amazon but I like to get the better one. Thank you
 
3Rock said:
Just have to ask but what USB – C cable are you using or can use to charge with The power brick that is best for our new MacBook Pro M1 Max. I see a lot of them on Amazon but I like to get the better one. Thank you
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They all charge at 100 watts. Just get one from a reputable brand like Anker.
 
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Bandaman said:
They all charge at 100 watts. Just get one from a reputable brand like Anker.
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Many thanks. I like to charge my 16 inch through the USB-C port and not the megsafe. Want to keep the battery in tiptop shape as long as possible and I don’t need fast charging. I bet I can even go to a lower wattage brick as well
 
3Rock said:
Many thanks. I like to charge my 16 inch through the USB-C port and not the megsafe. Want to keep the battery in tiptop shape as long as possible and I don’t need fast charging. I bet I can even go to a lower wattage brick as well
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You can just buy one of the lower watt mag safe chargers as they don't enable fast charging and enable the battery-saving 80% charge setting in macOS, although I think it's on by default.
 
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DarrylMusashi said:
All of the reviewers and early adopters gushing over MagSafe has made me wonder, who the hell goes around tripping over their charging cable every other day?

Jokes aside I guess people with kids could benefit from it, but I have never experienced nor have I heard of anyone tripping over their charging cable and having their laptop fall in the floor. Which is seemingly the only reason MagSafe exists.

USB-C is superior in that it is as close to a universal port as we are likely to get this lifetime, it is small, it carries data, there’s one on each side of the laptop so you don’t need to wrap your cable around the device.

So I hear some of you saying, since I prefer USB-C why don’t I use that and you use what you prefer, choice! Right?

Well on the surface this is a good argument, except the I believe the introduction of MagSafe will all but kill USB-C. We all know how other manufacturers like to copy apple, I expect it to be the same for power delivery, each one will invent their own MagSafe and we will end up with many different standards. I guess we will see what happens to MagSafe in the future, but if lightning is any indication apple will milk it until it’s bone dry. Meaning it might be the only charging port next time around.

In the end I’m disappointed, apple drove usb c adoption in a big way and I doubt it has the impetus to continue without apples help. I made a small trip the other weekend with my iPhone, iPad and new MacBook, I had to bring two chargers, who the hell would want to bring three?
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My dogs constantly get tangled up in my charging cables, particularly if I am sitting at my kitchen island working on something. This is a welcome return for my household. :)
 
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People are never happy. lol. Maybe just deliver with a 75lbs battery that comes charged for life.
 
smoking monkey said:
Worst take by an OP in a long time on MRs and that's saying something considering the dribble that's being posted recently.
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2REPOU said:
People are never happy. lol. Maybe just deliver with a 75lbs battery that comes charged for life.
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Jl006p said:
We need to take the anti-magsafe and anti-notch people and put them in a private thread where they can complain all day and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
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I am firmly in the four Thunderbolt ports camp philosophy-wise, but this what Apple decided to do and there’s no cogent argument that can be made that MagSafe is a bad thing. I have had a MBP or two taken off the table despite MagSafe being there, so it is possible, but my edge-case isn’t necessarily the gospel everyone should be living by. I think that the new MacBook Pro has a lot to offer and even with a few quirks it’s an excellent machine for what it does. The needless weird threads trying to rule people up or talk it down seem really weird given what the end use gets for their money, but that’s never stopped anyone here on these forums from complaining about something, anything to stir the pot.
 
Saying that MagSafe will replace USB-C just seems such a silly statement.

For one MagSafe is not a data port. Second, the EU has mandated that all mobile devices have a USB-C port for charging in an attempt to reduce the amount of different proprietary charging solutions. Apple is allowed to use both USB-C and MagSafe but not just MagSafe.

I think we have the best of both worlds now. If you prefer MagSafe you can use that. If you prefer USB-C, you can use that.
 
Jl006p said:
We need to take the anti-magsafe and anti-notch people and put them in a private thread where they can complain all day and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
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Then you’d be by yourself. Sounds lonely.
 
As mach I used to love MagSafe since very first introduction of it, I, apparently, realized that I am not going to use MagSafe 3.

1) When laptop is in my study, it is connected to TB4 dock. Granted, 100W is not as good and fast as 140W. But it is easier. with single cable.

2) When I am on the road (trip), I carry with me portable 100W 4-port USB-c GaN charger, and I am not going to carry extra charger. Again. 140W is nice, but 100W in all-in-one portable charger is better.

3) In the house...I have number of multiport GaN USB-C chargers spread around the house, so there is no sense to carry around extra charger either, as in most locations I need a charge laptop, I can find USB-C cable capable of 100W PD.

4) In the office...I also loaded office with multiport GaN USB-C chargers capable of 100W PD, as everyone has macs. And, personally, I have LG TB display with 100W PD.

So, give me use case for MagSafe 3? :)
 
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