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jwolf6589

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Apple updates the software but the hardware of the Apple TV has yet to see an update in nearly 4 years. For me my HD with 32GB works great for nearly everything. I don't game and perhaps making another Apple TV would be for gaming. Rumors pop up on this site about another apple TV in the works but so far all those have turned out to be false. I don't have a smart TV and even if I did I still would use my apple TV as I prefer it over the apple TV app. Also I watch Major league baseball games among other apps which require an apple TV unit and not just the apple TV app. So a smart TV in my case would be worthless and a waste of money.

Perhaps Apple is not going to make another Apple TV because the current units work just fine except for die hard gamers?
 

perezr10

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I’m guessing that if Apple comes out with another Apple TV it’s because of a push into hard core console level gaming. But for adults who just want to stream video, the current Apple TV 4K is great. The A10X can handle 4K video without breaking a sweat.

Or maybe Apple wants to take the device into a new direction? Like I often wish that I could speak to it like a HomePod. We can speak to our HomePods to play/pause Music but the ATV requires us to use the button?
 

Abazigal

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To me, the main draw of an upgraded processor would be guaranteed longer-term software support. My 4th gen ATV suffices for the basic stuff like watching YouTube and netflix and can’t really run any of the more demanding games from Apple Arcade (ocean horn crashes constantly).

An A12x or better processor would be good for the next 5 years at least. My only concern with the current A10x chip is how long said Apple TV will continue to be supported.
 
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Macalicious2011

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can’t really run any of the more demanding games from Apple Arcade (ocean horn crashes constantly).
Apple has missed the boat with gaming. Google Stadia is an incredible showcase of the future of gaming.

Streaming games without having to worry about hardware.
 

jazzer15

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To me, the main draw of an upgraded processor would be guaranteed longer-term software support. My 4th gen ATV suffices for the basic stuff like watching YouTube and netflix and can’t really run any of the more demanding games from Apple Arcade (ocean horn crashes constantly).

An A12x or better processor would be good for the next 5 years at least. My only concern with the current A10x chip is how long said Apple TV will continue to be supported.
This is my concern/question as well. I have a 4 year old Roku Ultra and am considering picking up the Apple TV 4K. Having trouble deciding if I should get the new Roku Ultra for $69, pick up the current Apple TV with the $50 gift card or just wait. I don't care about gaming and I'm sure the speed is fine, but wonder about longevity.
 
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MisterSavage

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Also I watch Major league baseball games among other apps which require an apple TV unit and not just the apple TV app.
Do you mean because you use AirPlay? That's built into several TV's now. Getting AirPlay in my new Sony and have the AT+ plus app in several places made me lose interest in an Apple TV unit.
 

nburwell

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We have multiple Apple TV units in our house (2 4th Gen HD and 1 4K), and they work perfectly fine for us. My wife and I just stream video as we don't have cable, so the Apple TV's are great to stream content from services/apps we have subscriptions through.

Even if Apple did announce new Apple TV hardware, I'm not sure I would necessarily upgrade -- right away at least.
 
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Abazigal

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Apple has missed the boat with gaming. Google Stadia is an incredible showcase of the future of gaming.

Streaming games without having to worry about hardware.

Each is playing to their respective strengths. I wouldn’t trust Apple’s servers for streaming games, just as I wouldn’t trust google hardware for on-device gaming.
 
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Packers1958

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They need a new Apple TV to fix issues than current hardware can not. A new ATV that can playback 24.000 fps correctly. It can do 23.976 correctly, but with shows that are at 24.000 fps there is occasional stutter. Also fix elevated black levels with DV on OLED tv's. Apparently they can't fix that issue with current hardware. So yes, without a doubt, a new ATV is needed.
 
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Macalicious2011

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They need a new Apple TV to fix issues than current hardware can not. A new ATV that can playback 24.000 fps correctly. It can do 23.976 correctly, but with shows that are at 24.000 fps there is occasional stutter. Also fix elevated black levels with DV on OLED tv's. Apparently they can't fix that issue with current hardware. So yes, without a doubt, a new ATV is needed.
Do you experience stutter when watching netflix?
 

Macalicious2011

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Yes, with certain shows. The Irishman, for example, is at 24.000 fps, and if you set the ATV at match frame rate, you with see an occasional stutter.
Interesting because I noticed shutter when watching Dynasty on ATV4K yesterday. It was very noticeable when two characters were horse riding across a landscape.
 

almostinsane

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A new one that can play the 4k Youtube feeds would be nice, since it can’t decode the VP9 Google codec. I know Youtube updated the app but hardly any 4k streams are available.

This isn’t hardware related but I’d like the ability to delete the Atv app, games, computer, and podcast app. I don’t ever use them and they just take up wasted screen space.
 
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