iPhone X Why no black iPhone X?

Anthony T

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Let's face it...the "silver" iPhone X is basically white. It puzzles me as to why Apple would only release a "silver" and space gray version of the iPhone X, when they could have easily done black as well with the glass back since it has been done before.

Especially considering there were rumors that a gold iPhone X was supposed to be released alongside the other 2 colors, but it was scrapped because of production issues. Really? They were working on a gold but no black?

Anyone else find this odd?
 

Eggtastic

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I assume that this is their attempt at offering some sort of variety vs. a legit black or white model. They are competing against other companies that offer more vibrant colors, however want to keep with their minimalistic approach. They then push their colorful expensive cases for anyone that wants personalization (keep in mind the majority just slaps whatever color case they want vs. some here that like to go case-less).

The red iPhone has a place obviously for a cause and of course to boost sales as it catches the eye (caught mine when in the store, but I would not buy).

Never understood the rose gold color but apparently it is a big in china from what I gather here in the forums.

I don't think well ever see multiple colored iPhones like the old nano days but its nice to dream. For now, a color case or skin is your best bet.
 

Anthony T

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Yeah the space gray one is black. It’s definitley not gray.
Are we looking at the same phone? It definitely looks like gray to me, maybe a bit darker gray, but definitely gray.

EDIT: Looked up some pics. It is darker than I originally thought, but still not black.
 
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Krabba

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Are we looking at the same phone? It definitely looks like gray to me, maybe a bit darker gray, but definitely gray.

EDIT: Looked up some pics. It is darker than I originally thought, but still not black.
As I use it to type this it seems far closer to black than gray. Photos can be deceiving.
 

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Are we looking at the same phone? It definitely looks like gray to me, maybe a bit darker gray, but definitely gray.

EDIT: Looked up some pics. It is darker than I originally thought, but still not black.
There was a time when the iPhone 5s had been released that I engaged in multiple discussions here about Space Gray not being black. Gray is a shade of black, but it's not 100% black. Therefore it's gray and not black because the definition of black is 100%, not a shade of it.

Anyway in one of those many threads someone mentioned that calling the 5s black was like calling your car black because it has black tires. That analogy has stuck with me.

I'm not bringing this up to re-engage in those old arguments as I really don't care about the X. And I really don't care to argue if someone feels one way or the other about whether Space Gray is actually black or not. But I am bringing it up simply because that is the argument.

People like to make assumptions based on what they see. If they feel that it's one way or the other then that's what they believe and what they repeat. But in the industry I work in that doesn't fly because anything less than 100% black is not black.
 

Krabba

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For comparisons sake...

Black 5 vs. Space Gray 5s



Black 5 vs. Space Gray X



Space Gray 5s vs. Space Gray X



Black 7 vs. Space Gray X



Of course the X has a glass back like the 4 and the black 4 definitely makes the Space Gray X look more gray than black when side-by-side.
 
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There was a time when the iPhone 5s had been released that I engaged in multiple discussions here about Space Gray not being black. Gray is a shade of black, but it's not 100% black. Therefore it's gray and not black because the definition of black is 100%, not a shade of it.

Anyway in one of those many threads someone mentioned that calling the 5s black was like calling your car black because it has black tires. That analogy has stuck with me.

I'm not bringing this up to re-engage in those old arguments as I really don't care about the X. And I really don't care to argue if someone feels one way or the other about whether Space Gray is actually black or not. But I am bringing it up simply because that is the argument.

People like to make assumptions based on what they see. If they feel that it's one way or the other then that's what they believe and what they repeat. But in the industry I work in that doesn't fly because anything less than 100% black is not black.
Is it 100% gray or space gray by your industry standards?
 

eyoungren

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Is it 100% gray or space gray by your industry standards?
LOL!

I work in the graphic design industry and I send our newspaper to the printer every Monday and Wednesday. So, it's important to have the concepts and definitions correct. That way everyone understands each other. There's no calling something black just because it happens to be closer to full black than it is to a lighter shade of gray. Doing that can cost you because some customers are exacting.
 

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Let's face it...the "silver" iPhone X is basically white. It puzzles me as to why Apple would only release a "silver" and space gray version of the iPhone X, when they could have easily done black as well with the glass back since it has been done before.
Because this company is unpredictable. I actually am glad they didn’t just decide on “Traditional” colors like ‘Black’ (Considering they offered Jet Black and Matte Black recently). They should be offering different shades and variations. One thing is certain, no one Color will ever appeal to the _whole_ demographic.
 
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Let's face it...the "silver" iPhone X is basically white. It puzzles me as to why Apple would only release a "silver" and space gray version of the iPhone X, when they could have easily done black as well with the glass back since it has been done before.

Especially considering there were rumors that a gold iPhone X was supposed to be released alongside the other 2 colors, but it was scrapped because of production issues. Really? They were working on a gold but no black?

Anyone else find this odd?
The silver phone isn't even close to white.

I'd say the silver phone is equally as distant from true white as the space gray is from true black.

But yes, the space gray phone is clearly gray in the sun.
 
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osta.doc

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I feel that my Space Gray 8 is really Black, but that’s just my opinion.

Not as dark as Jet Black, but not really my idea of gray either.
 

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Reminds me of a rather boring conversation i had in a pub once with this not-very-interesting guy who told me there was 571 (or whatever the actual figure was) different shades of red, and then proceeded to go through some of them.

I ended up just walking away from him mid sentence, couldn't stand it anymore.


Anyway, i wish Apple would try and keep their 'space grey' products looking the same shade as it's getting silly now with your iPhone AW iPad etc being called the same colour but being blatantly different shades (and not just slightly different)
 

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Anyway, i wish Apple would try and keep their 'space grey' products looking the same shade as it's getting silly now with your iPhone AW iPad etc being called the same colour but being blatantly different shades (and not just slightly different)
Its baffling how many different shades of space gray there are. I partly believe Apple uses different shades of space gray throughout their line up to differentiate through various products, like how the Apple Watch space gray is a different shade of gray from the iPhone 6/6s space gray.
 
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Anyway, i wish Apple would try and keep their 'space grey' products looking the same shade as it's getting silly now with your iPhone AW iPad etc being called the same colour but being blatantly different shades (and not just slightly different)
This! It bugs me so much to see all the Space Gray products look so different from each other.
 
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Wouldn’t a black one essentially be the same as the space gray?
technically its space black which is a slightly darker shade of black anodising apple has used preciously but aparently they opted for space gray on subsiquent iphones because there was less rejection rate getting it to that shade than darker
 

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technically its space black which is a slightly darker shade of black anodising apple has used preciously but aparently they opted for space gray on subsiquent iphones because there was less rejection rate getting it to that shade than darker
Not sure if serious..? What do you mean technically? The OP did not say space black, just black. I’m no expert but I don’t think there’s ever been a space black iPhone.
 

Anarchy99

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Not sure if serious..? What do you mean technically? The OP did not say space black, just black. I’m no expert but I don’t think there’s ever been a space black iPhone.
your right
the black iphone was slate black, but i could have sworn some apple accessory had the anodised color a of "slate black" post space grey and called it "space black" could be wrong
it may have also been a international name for something sadly I dont have any of my old boxes to confirm and google search is poluted with slate or grey

so im guessing im misremembering
 

nrvna76

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The black iPhone 5 was officially named "space black" by Apple
I don’t think this is true..
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your right
the black iphone was slate black, but i could have sworn some apple accessory had the anodised color a of "slate black" post space grey and called it "space black" could be wrong
it may have also been a international name for something sadly I dont have any of my old boxes to confirm and google search is poluted with slate or grey

so im guessing im misremembering
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t really care. I just don’t get the point of pining for a slightly different shade of black...
 

Anarchy99

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The black iPhone 5 was officially named "space black" by Apple
i thought so, thanks for re-confirming I wasn't crazy
because i remember being salty from the downgrade of Space Black to Space Grey.
Upon further searching I can confirm on apple's
website it said Black & Slate or White & Silver but in the pamphlet it calls it “Space Black"
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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t really care. I just don’t get the point of pining for a slightly different shade of black...
same reason why arnt all PC's still beige boxes
style matters to a point
I would pay slightly more for more black because its prettier to me sujectively
 
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