Why no haptic home button?...

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  1. Kal-037 macrumors 6502a

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    truth is as incredible as the updates Apple gave the iPad Pro, one feature besides DCI-P3 that was a must-have for me was a haptic feedback home button. I'm fine with the Touch ID 2 one we got but also love the iPhobe 7's home button. I figured since the iPad Pro is still 6.9mm it would be able to fit the Taptic Engine, but Apple surprisingly didn't include it which was a real bummer... (but not close to a deal breaker)
    What do you all think of each type of home buttton? Do you like the actual click from the original button, or do you prefer the iPjobe 7's button?

    **silly question, but I'm just curious of what everyone else thinks.
    Do you like the physical home button better, or are both prone to the same amount of damage?

    Kallum.
     
  2. pika2000 macrumors 68030

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    If Apple would do that, then I want the vibration to be focussed on the home button. I don't want to feel vibration on the whole tablet. Either way is fine with me. On the iPad, there is less wear and tear on the home button vs one on an iPhone as I can use multi-touch gestures to invoke the task switcher.
     
  3. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Haptic home button comes after force touch. iPad never has force touch even today. So I doubt Apple will introduce haptic home button on iPad anytime soon.

    For my preference, I love click button.
     
  4. Steve686 macrumors 68030

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    Probably because we don't carry iPads in our pockets to feel an alert or hold them nearly as much as iPhones on a daily basis?

    The 4 speakers on the iPad Pro definitely is enough for me to hear alerts better than iPhone while iPad is in my bag or in another room.
     
  5. ABC5S Suspended

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    I think, questions like this should never be asked in the first place. Only Apple knows why it doesn't do this that or the other thing. We peons don't have a clue as to why Apple does things.
     
  6. MrGimper macrumors 601

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    I think the major driving force behind the solid-state home button on the iP7 was water resistance. Not really an issue with an iPad, which is probably why is also still has a 3.5 jack.
     
  7. smirking macrumors 6502a

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    I found the haptic buttons to be fun, but I've decided that I much prefer real buttons. The haptic buttons work fine most of the time, but they occasionally don't respond as expected or they disengage at a bad time like when you're dragging a file around and that sudden disengage means your file just got dropped in a folder that you weren't paying attention to.

    You never have these issues with real buttons. If it's down, the button is engaged. End of story. It doesn't matter if there's static electricity in the air or if you're sweating and so forth.
     
  8. Relentless Power macrumors P6

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    In order for the haptic home button to be present, that means they would have to Include the haptic engine As well. So perhaps there wasn't enough space in the new iPads to incorporate a haptic engine.

    I don't forsee the iPad ever having a haptic home button, mainly because one of the reasons for the have to the Haptic home button was to help increase with the water resistance. If anything, future iPads will likely not have a home button if Apple is able to embed the home button under the display for future iPads.

    I do prefer the haptic home button over the pushbutton. It has a much shorter press and I like the feedback of knowingly what I am doing.
     
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    Its funny, but I was wondering the same thing, my opinion is that Apple is holding back and will roll this out in a later revision. They held back on this on this because the 10.5 has so many additions, that they wanted something for the future.
     
  10. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    I dont even use the home button on my Air 2, its all gestures.
     
  11. danmart macrumors 6502a

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    Presumably you use it to unlock the device?

    Otherwise I agree; I hardly ever use the home button on my iPad (now the new 12.5 Pro).

    I would prefer a solid state switch for longevity, but physical buttons are ok, too.
     
  12. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    Yes now with IOS 10 I have to, but before It was rarely used.
     
  13. Rafterman macrumors 68000

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    I would think haptic would have been included by now for hearing impaired people.
     
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    It makes a click, I can hear it and feel it. Anything else is a gimmick and a waste of money.
     
  15. BeatCrazy macrumors 65816

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    I definitely miss the haptic button on the 10.5 IPP. I love it on my 7/7 Plus, and going back to a standard button on a "new" iPad feels rather old fashioned.
     
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    Here's the inside from iFixit's teardown for reference. The iPhone 7's home button isn't bad by any means but I prefer the click of the mechanical button any day.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    Its one less thing to break.
     
  18. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    That really is the most interesting thing. It is almost like they are half committed to force touch. It is still useless on a Mac.
     
  19. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    Wait people think Apple is leaving out 3D Touch and Taptic Engine from iPad just so they have something to add in a future year? It couldn't have anything to do with the engineering behind 3D Touch and scaling that to the larger iPad screens?
     
  20. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    Its definitely engineering as its a different ballgame on a surface that large.
     
  21. Relentless Power macrumors P6

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    Actually, Cook commented on the difficulty of 3D Touch when it launched on the 6s, from a manufacturing standpoint, it makes sense that it's not an easy feat to incorporate into a larger display, let alone the Haptic engine.
     
  22. yep-sure macrumors 6502

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    It's a useless gimmick on the iPhone and it would be a useless gimmick on the iPad.
     
  23. Puonti, Jun 21, 2017
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    It's actually amazing how easily I can feel my iPhone's Taptic engine do a silent alert even when the phone is in my messenger bag, in an "outside" pocket (not against my back). Considering I carry my iPad in the "inside" pocket (against my back), I'd be guaranteed to feel it. Same thing when the phone's resting on the table - even if I have headphones on and can't hear the buzzing, the vibrations carry clearly through the table and keyboard / mouse.

    I feel like if there's a reason not to add the Taptic engine to an iPad, it's not that we wouldn't feel it. I have no doubt that Apple would make the effect as pronounced as it is with the iPhone, considering differences in mass.

    That said, I don't miss it and I'm not troubled by using a virtual home button on my iPhone and a real one on my iPad.
     
  24. Steve686 macrumors 68030

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    It's not the we CAN'T or WOULDN'T feel it, it's the fact we don't need to feel it. A majority of the people that use iPhone and don't have an Apple Watch would use the phone as a first use device to accept and interact with incoming messages and alerts in the course of a normal day, not the iPad. And those with an Apple Watch would use the Apple Watch as a first response device.

    The iPad just doesn't seem to have a priority need for vibration.

    On a side note, I do turn on my LED flash alert with the iPad and that is a good alternative to those that want to receive more than audible alerts on the iPads.
     
  25. Xenden macrumors regular

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    Because there has been wide spread home button failure (outside of tourch ID issues)?

    Did apple say they test the button my pushing it a million or two times in their lab.

    The only reason they added the solid state button is because the silly asians had propagated the myth that the button was super fragile.

    This rumor is brought to you by the same people that think fan death is a legitimate problem.
     

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