Why no traffic information for UK users

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by daneoni, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. daneoni macrumors G4


    Mar 24, 2006
    Just wondering why we uk users don't get traffic information in the maps application. Does google simply not support it?
  2. ibizarocks macrumors regular

    Oct 2, 2007
    I know, it's stupid isn't it?

    The UK probably has more 'traffic' than the USA! If anything, we'd have more use for it.
  3. SpaceMagic macrumors 68000


    Oct 26, 2003
    Cardiff, Wales
    I completely agree, where is it? Couldn't RAC release an App or Apple UK speak with the roads agency. Just try something...

    The UK has to be so much easier to manage than the US. There's only 60 million for a start, and about a 100th of the road millage available.
  4. jacksam101 macrumors member

    Dec 27, 2006
    Crewe (UK)
    Hopefully if/when we get the Tom Tom app that will include traffic info (?)
  5. archipellago macrumors 65816

    Aug 16, 2008
  6. daneoni thread starter macrumors G4


    Mar 24, 2006
    Yeah its weird, the UK is a fairly small country and traffic info we get from all the news stations should be easily 'feedable' to the maps or something...implementation surely cant be that hard. 'shrugs'
  7. t0mat0 macrumors 603


    Aug 29, 2006
    It's google's rate of implementation - the uk usually picks up features later than the US, e.g. street view.
  8. sibruk macrumors 6502a

    Sep 17, 2007
    Yes, this is actually one of those legitimate "don't blame Apple" moments! It's Google that need to be beaten up over this.

    Visit www.google.com/maps in your browser on your PC/Mac. You'll notice that there's a couple of buttons called "Traffic" and "Street View" available to you whenever you're hovered over the US. They both disappear when you move the map over to the UK.

    Very annoying, and I wish there was a place for me to kick up a bit of a stink about it...

    Not sure that a TomTom app would solve the problem either. I know all the big GPS device manufacturers have had nothing but problems trying to get TrafficMaster to license their service/data out to them. There must be other providers to get data from!
  9. daneoni thread starter macrumors G4


    Mar 24, 2006
    Ah...nothing like corporate politics to stifle progress/innovation and screw consumers over.
  10. Interstella5555 macrumors 603


    Jun 30, 2008
    Because you guys drive on the wrong side of the road? :)
  11. sparkyms macrumors 65816

    Feb 22, 2007
    Southampton UK

    Perhaps it's simply because Google haven't negotiated a deal with any one provider of traffic details yet?
  12. ruralroute12 macrumors newbie

    Sep 3, 2008
    The Highways Agency pays a private company called TiS (Traffic Information Services) to collect and process traffic data from the motorway and trunk road network. They have a website at www.trafficengland.com which shows current delays on England's roads (there are similar services for Scotland and Wales too). They also display information about roadworks, incidents, future events, current speeds on Motorways, access to CCTV cameras, and current variable message sign and matrix signal settings. Best thing is, delays are colour coded by severity and shown on a map - just like Google does in the USA.

    All the information is collected from the roadside in real-time and is provided free of charge to anyone who wants it. It's all run from a purpose-built facility called the National Traffic Control Centre near Birmingham.

    If Google wanted to set up a traffic information service for the UK, nobody is stopping them. They just have to go and ask for the information and it will be given to them on a live feed, at no charge. It's part of the terms and conditions of the contract that the Highways Agency won't charge organisations for the data, as that would take revenue from the likes of TrafficMaster who do have subscription services, and effectively the government would be putting them out of business.

    My guess is that there are so many other providers out there that it's not cost-effective for Google to spend time developing the service... Even though they obviously already have a model in the USA, the data is most likely in different formats and from different sources, so there probably isn't a great deal of commonality they could share between the 2 countries. But if there's a will, there's certainly a way!

    I tend to use the traffic england site to decide whether to leave work by looking at the current motorway information page, which shows the speeds between every motorway junctions and links to the CCTV cameras so you can see just how bad the jams are before you set off!
  13. TwoBytes macrumors 68030


    Jun 2, 2008
    Funny as this sounds; the uk gets far far more traffic than the USA. In fact, when is there ever NOT traffic? ;) I checked the previous posters site at 10pm at night and there were roadworks everywhere in london.

    GoogleMaps getting UK traffic updates may be so much that it would overload the google servers and break the internet! ;D
  14. philgilder macrumors 68000

    Sep 30, 2007
    thats because london during the day would be a nightmare (more than it is now) to have roadworks in

    you mean like apple's iphone 3g activation process?
  15. mavis macrumors 68040


    Jul 30, 2007
    Tokyo, Japan
    Wirelessly posted (iPhone 3G (16GB, 2.0.2 JB'd): Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_0_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5C1 Safari/525.20)

    Do you get turn-by-turn driving directions? We don't get those here in Tokyo, presumably because the streets are so ****ed up ... ;)

    GoogleMaps doesn't seem to support a lot of things outside the US. Hopefully someday they will.

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