Why release a Jailbreak now?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by Jaykob, Jun 29, 2015.

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How do you feel about the 8.3 Jailbreak?

  1. Nice, been waiting for ages now!

    21 vote(s)
    60.0%
  2. WTF! Why now??

    11 vote(s)
    31.4%
  3. I don't care - no need to JB!

    3 vote(s)
    8.6%
  1. Jaykob macrumors newbie

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    #1
    Can somebody give me an explanation for this?
    I mean the release was obviously rushed (so many problems, bugs and updates...) and the timing is more than stupid. If not already fixed in 8.4 tomorrow, the exploit will be fixed in 8.4.1.
    Apple has been quite quick and thankful for the stupidity of JB developers lately - so I'm asking myself what are the reasons? I can only think of a big stack of money, but who's paying here? Apple?

    Sorry if this has been discussed before but I couldn't find a similar thread...
     
  2. TriJetHero, Jun 29, 2015
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    TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    They might have seen the 8.4 GM in which the exploits were fixed already.

    In any case Apple didn't have enough time to fix the exploits before tomorrows release.

    A fix will always be made either in 8.4.1 or a later release.

    There is no new device for which a wait might be worthwhile, so people who want to JB on 8.4 if at all possible can do so anyway after tomorrow.

    There are always bugs in JB's which need fixing right after a release.

    All-in-all not so stupid after all....
     
  3. eelw macrumors 6502a

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    In regards to the bugs, unfortunately TaiG is a small team. We are the beta testers for them.
     
  4. borgqueenx macrumors 65816

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    its stopid indeed, sure apple wont have enough time if they do as they always do. But everyone knows deep inside, that apple has the power to do anything. hire 100 extra programmers to decrypt and decompile the jailbreak and fix the exploits in 8.4 is easy do-able for apple. if they want to fix it badly.
     
  5. eyoungren, Jun 29, 2015
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    eyoungren macrumors P6

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    Let's see…

    Jailbreak devs work real hard to bring us a a jailbreak.
    We are never charged for it.
    We now have a jailbreak.

    But the people who gave us that jailbreak stupidly released it before we THINK they should have released it and stupidly they released it with bugs they couldn't anticipate for the millions of different devices and setups that people out there use.

    Right. These guys are real dumb.
     
  6. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    Sure they can dedicate more resources, the bugs wil be found soon enough, but designing a bug free fix is another matter.

    Then they have to sent the new GM out for testing to all the major Phone carriers, do extensive testing that they don't put out a buggy official iOS release.

    Usually it takes at least 3 weeks to get it done without any serious bugs.

    It is not as easy as you make it out to be.

    With the prestige of Apple Music on the line and only a small risk and percentage using a Jailbreak, i doubt they will rush a fix for this.
     
  7. borgqueenx macrumors 65816

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    Then hire people who beta test right away. If they want it, they can do it.
     
  8. Jaykob thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm a software developer myself so I know the work involved in a jailbreak. That's exactly why it's that stupid to burn all the work for a x.x.0 iOS version and not waiting for the usual bug fix x.x.1 release. When was the last time a .0 release lasted longer than a few weeks?
    The only other reason I could think of is that they found several exploits and are ready for the next round but this rarely happened in the past...
     
  9. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    Or the exploits are already closed in 8.4 and they wanted everybody to still be able to use 8.3 and the jailbreak before 8.4 came out and Aplle stops signing 8.3, in that case they are incredible smart....

    We'll find out today, but in anycase a classification of 'stupid' on the basis of your assumptions is a bit premature and in my eyes a bit immature as well.
     
  10. b0fh666 macrumors 6502a

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    i think the timing was perfect. IOS 8.3 was stable, so stable that it did not get a ..1 release, so that's a plus.

    I'd rather have a jailbreak on a good FW that I can use for a year or so than on a buggy new release that would need patching soon and probably losing the exploits.

    cheers
     
  11. TriJetHero macrumors 601

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    So they gave away a week to apple to fix the exploit, but in return had a trial run on 8.3 to have an almost flawless 8.4 JB release giving the general public a bigger window with immediate access to a stable 8.4 jailbreak.

    Pretty smart if you ask me...
     
  12. lukejc1 macrumors 6502

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    #12
    Every time a new jailbreak is release this question is asked. Why release a jailbreak for iOS 8.3 when 8.4 is coming soon? Why release a jailbreak for 8.4 when 8.4.1 or 9.0 is coming? Why release a jailbreak for 9.0 when 9.1 is coming? And so on. It seems to me like there is never a perfect time to release a jailbreak because there will always be a "next" version on iOS where the jailbreak can be patched. I'm just glad the it has been released.
     
  13. kalirob99 macrumors 68000

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    Even free, people will always have a reason to be ungrateful and b**** about it.
     
  14. lavrishevo macrumors 68000

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    I'm just happy they released it. I was jailbroken on 8.1 and had something go haywire. Had to restore to 8.2... and was stuck for months without TetherMe, which really sucked when I travel and really could use the hotspot.
     
  15. TEEJAYy macrumors newbie

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    instead of complaining about a why jailbreak now, why not just say thank you and shut up
     
  16. MsRandall, Jul 2, 2015
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    MsRandall macrumors 6502a

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    I was surprised and grateful for the jailbreak on 8.3 - I had about 3 weeks without a j/b because my device was replaced and although I managed - I missed disturb please a lot.

    So this question while it is asked every jailbreak - Im sure the j/b developers have a master game plan of why, how, and when they drop a j/b.
     
  17. eelw macrumors 6502a

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    But it's like waiting for a hardware upgrade. Do you pick up current model or wait for the 6s in September? It's a never ending cycle if you attempt to wait for what's coming up. Just take advantage of what's out there right now. No reason to second guess about if and when.
     

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