That makes sense since the MBA has much less thermal headroom and the heatsink has less area to dissipate the heat. For the 15" rMBP since it has a larger area and two fans dissipation is pretty efficient...
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Why? rMBP=Silence but Windows Laptops = Fan Noise
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That makes sense since the MBA has much less thermal headroom and the heatsink has less area to dissipate the heat. For the 15" rMBP since it has a larger area and two fans dissipation is pretty efficient...
Why? rMBP=Silence but Windows Laptops = Fan Noise
The idle dB sounds too high (pun not intended). Also the rMBPs don't have a HD, they have a SSD and SSDs don't have any moving parts so they're completely silent.
I'm not sure what's going on here. This is supposedly for the new 13" rMBPs right?
The idle dB sounds too high (pun not intended). Also the rMBPs don't have a HD, they have a SSD and SSDs don't have any moving parts so they're completely silent.
The reason is bootcamp uses an emulated BIOS to boot windows and a result of this is you lose key hardware features (AHCI and proper control of certain hardware are the main problems). If you can manage to install windows using EFI (and very few macs can do this in a way you'd call "usable") then you'll suddenly find it runs quicker, quieter, cooler, etc.
can you explain this to me in more detail. Why is EFI needed for this. Can't their Windows drivers fix the mobo?
I've known several people who are burning their macbooks when gaming on them. Particularly people with sandybridge. Very high temperatures in Windows.
Well when gaming this can't be avoided. The reason EFI is needed for this is simply that the motherboard is built to use it.
I assume its just background noise, as the haswell rmbp seems completely silent idle and as you say has no hd.
I'm also quite fascinated by the low noise of the Apple devices.
The new late 2013 rMBPs are even more silent then the previous ones. In a notebookcheck review they stated, that the fans of the 13" version stay at idle rpm's even when one benchmarking program is doing its job.
My new Dell laptop at work is louder on idle and usual work than my rMBP 15" is at gaming.
Why is Apple better here? Firstly by using aluminium cases, they transfer heat really well. Secondly by choosing high quality heat spreaders, fans and thermal paste. Something an other manufacturer won't ever select as they are building devices more for profit than for customers.
A combination of these things can dim the noise level of every laptop or PC. This is also the reason why an iMac is practically silent in all situations (gaming, rendering, benchmarking).
The new late 2013 rMBPs are even more silent then the previous ones. In a notebookcheck review they stated, that the fans of the 13" version stay at idle rpm's even when one benchmarking program is doing its job.
My new Dell laptop at work is louder on idle and usual work than my rMBP 15" is at gaming.
Why is Apple better here? Firstly by using aluminium cases, they transfer heat really well. Secondly by choosing high quality heat spreaders, fans and thermal paste. Something an other manufacturer won't ever select as they are building devices more for profit than for customers.
A combination of these things can dim the noise level of every laptop or PC. This is also the reason why an iMac is practically silent in all situations (gaming, rendering, benchmarking).
Because Apple nails the little things that add up to a better experience. Trackpad, keyboard, display quality, fan noise, (good) auto screen brightness, build quality/rigidity, etc., these things are consistantly done better by Apple than by anyone else (and it's the exact same thing with iphones and ipads as well). This is the part that people who have never bought apple products don't fully appreciate when factoring in the cost of Apple hardware. I say this as somebody who has purchased/built quite a few PCs, macs, android phones, iphones, etc. over the years.
I know they are fantastic at that stuff, to me the trackpad alone is worth at least $200, it's soooo much better then anything else.
A dB test with 27 dB background noise? That is just embarrassing!
You didn't mention anything outside of 'an asus ultrabook' - since you were vague, I went with a basic Asus laptop (can be had for ~$400-$500) vs a 15" rMBP, which starts @ $2k.
What are you getting at, here?
Depends, the 15'' rMBP has a dedicated card and a much more powerful processor. It has more area for a heatsink, but it also inherently generates more heat because of the more powerful hardware.
+1. People look at spec sheets and complaint that Macs are overpriced. What they don't see are the little things that overall, makes the whole product much better.
My mid 2012 rMBP is damn near silent. Only when transcoding a video does the fan spin up and even then, in a typical living with typical activity, it is not audible.