I really don't understand (apart from the weight) why anyone should buy a 14 plus since the 13 pro max: it has the same processor, more ram, better materials, an extra camera and costs even less. What do you think?
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iPhone 14/Plus why should i buy a 14 plus and not a 13 pro max?
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The 13 Pro Max is not beeing produced anymore, so sooner or later that won't be a question.
For now - sure, get the 13 Pro Max.
Besides: Both, the 14 Plus and the 13 Pro Max DO have the same ammount of RAM, 6GB of RAM.
For now - sure, get the 13 Pro Max.
Besides: Both, the 14 Plus and the 13 Pro Max DO have the same ammount of RAM, 6GB of RAM.
You shouldn’t
buying 14 plus over 13 pro max is an awful buying decision
buying 14 plus over 13 pro max is an awful buying decision
As mentioned in the other threads, the regular iPhone 14 line are a bad value since it’s almost the same phone as last year models. The fact that it’s still using the same A15 SOC as last years phone with very few added features makes it a bad value compared to the Pro models, which have more features and uses better materials.
If you can find a new 13 Pro Max for a good price, it’s always going to be better than the 14 Plus. The only thing you lose is the SOS satellite feature and crash detection. Otherwise, save a bit more and go for the 14 Pro Max as it will be better than the 14 Plus without feeling it’s not much of an upgrade, besides the bigger screen, which doesn’t even have Promotion.
If you can find a new 13 Pro Max for a good price, it’s always going to be better than the 14 Plus. The only thing you lose is the SOS satellite feature and crash detection. Otherwise, save a bit more and go for the 14 Pro Max as it will be better than the 14 Plus without feeling it’s not much of an upgrade, besides the bigger screen, which doesn’t even have Promotion.
Why would you get a 13 Pro Max when you really dislike the heavy weight of it and finally you’re able to get a lightweighted 6,7 inch iPhone?
14 Plus is a 13 Pro Max with a significantly worse screen and worse camera system.
Where are people finding these 13PM's for less than a 14+ ..??
Maybe for you, that’s your opinion… The screen is basically the same (both are OLED and the same resolution). I wouldn’t call the lack of ProMotion “significantly worse”. Not everyone cares about ProMotion or the camera. Maybe they’d rather have Crash Detection, Satellite SOS, and lighter weight.
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The answer is everyone has their own specific set of needs from their phone. If people think they’d be happier with the pro, after weighing the pros & cons, then they should get it. As long as they fully understand exactly what it is they’re buying, they’ll be fine.
Judging from a lot of threads on the pro max, it seems like people are really put off by the weight for whatever reason. So that reason alone, might be enough to persuade some people to get the pro.
Exactly, I don't get this comparison. Apple doesn't sell it anymore and carriers will be running out soon if they haven't already. Most people aren't upgrading their phones by looking on the used phone market.
I see many posts of people defending the 14 Plus who have already bought the 14 Pro or Pro Max. I don’t even understand their basis for defending the Plus if they wouldn’t even consider one for themselves, just to save $200 and some weight
I feel at least a couple things need to change before I would even consider the Plus:
1.) have the same processor as the Pro models
2.) at least have the dynamic island if not have everything for the screen including the di, promotion and brightness. Or no di and brightness, but at least have promotion
Then I would feel like the value is there for downgrading the casing material and losing the main 48mp camera and screen
Losing the SIM tray was already a big “courage” move for me to consider upgrading this year, so I’m going to want to maximize my investment from everything else that is new
I feel at least a couple things need to change before I would even consider the Plus:
1.) have the same processor as the Pro models
2.) at least have the dynamic island if not have everything for the screen including the di, promotion and brightness. Or no di and brightness, but at least have promotion
Then I would feel like the value is there for downgrading the casing material and losing the main 48mp camera and screen
Losing the SIM tray was already a big “courage” move for me to consider upgrading this year, so I’m going to want to maximize my investment from everything else that is new
With the 14 Plus you’ll get the same processor, same RAM (both 6GB), same size display, slightly better battery life, lighter weight, and SOS (if in the USA).
With the 13 Pro Max you’ll get better display with ProMotion, zoom lens, ProRAW and ProRes, stainless steel. I would go with the 13 Pro Max for the ProMotion (it’s noticeably better than 60Hz for me now), cameras, stainless steel, ProRAW option. YMMV.
To be honest, the 14 and 14 Plus should start at $649 and $749 at 128GB. They should top out in price under $1000. The price difference of $200 is too little between the 14 Plus and 14 Pro Max to justify the Plus for my wants/needs.
I'm not sure how you judge that. Speaking for myself, I have the 14 Plus and have had the pro max phones in the past. I'm very happy with the 14 Plus and have stated my reasons in the other similar thread. The $200 and the weight are valid reasons believe it or not. Not sure why you feel the need to minimize it.I see many posts of people defending the 14 Plus who have already bought the 14 Pro or Pro Max. I don’t even understand their basis for defending the Plus if they wouldn’t even consider one for themselves, just to save $200 and some weight
I feel at least a couple things need to change before I would even consider the Plus:
1.) have the same processor as the Pro models
2.) at least have the dynamic island if not have everything for the screen including the di, promotion and brightness. Or no di and brightness, but at least have promotion
Then I would feel like the value is there for downgrading the casing material and losing the main 48mp camera and screen
Losing the SIM tray was already a big “courage” move for me to consider upgrading this year, so I’m going to want to maximize my investment from everything else that is new
Because the 13 Pro Max is no longer sold at Apple new and a used phone has been around or even in the toilet - does that answer your question? 🤣
Why not? Just because they have the Pro or Pro Max doesn't mean they can't see or appreciate the value the Plus has to offer for other people. I think it's silly the other way around...people pushing the Pro/Pro Max on others when the regular/Plus would suit them just fine. I love the Pro too, but I know it's overkill for some people.I see many posts of people defending the 14 Plus who have already bought the 14 Pro or Pro Max. I don’t even understand their basis for defending the Plus if they wouldn’t even consider one for themselves, just to save $200 and some weight
Not calling you out, but I do see ProRAW and ProRes being touted as a reason to get the Pro. Don't get me wrong, it is...but I'd love to see numbers of how many people actually turn these on and use them. None of my friends or family members have used these, nor would they know how to properly edit a ProRAW photo, much less even have the proper tools/apps. I'm guessing this is true for the vast majority of people, but I could be wrong. To me, these feel like a niche feature.
That is why I think the regular 14 and 14 Plus feels like a ripoff and a cash grab compared to the Pro models as mentioned, it's basically the same phone as the 13 since it uses the same exact A15 SOC. If Apple just put the same A16 like the Pro model and add a third camera lens, maybe it would be more compelling, but it would canabalize the 14 Pro line, which has higher margins.I see many posts of people defending the 14 Plus who have already bought the 14 Pro or Pro Max. I don’t even understand their basis for defending the Plus if they wouldn’t even consider one for themselves, just to save $200 and some weight
I feel at least a couple things need to change before I would even consider the Plus:
1.) have the same processor as the Pro models
2.) at least have the dynamic island if not have everything for the screen including the di, promotion and brightness. Or no di and brightness, but at least have promotion
Then I would feel like the value is there for downgrading the casing material and losing the main 48mp camera and screen
Losing the SIM tray was already a big “courage” move for me to consider upgrading this year, so I’m going to want to maximize my investment from everything else that is new
Given how poorly the regular models are and the 14 Pro models being hard to find, it's obvious that most people think the regular 14 lineup is a ripoff, especially since there is no mini model. For most people, you may as well get a 13 instead since it's cheaper given how few changes are with the 14. Maybe a sign that Apple shouldn't skimp on the midrange models next year.
Not everyone needs the top specs. If you’re happy with your purchase, then that is worth the price difference
I cannot, in good conscience, consider it myself without changing at least a couple things or have a further price drop
100% agree with you - it depends on the person using the features.
I just upgraded from a 12 Pro to 14 Plus and love it - the larger screen, brighter, longest battery life, and lightweight to boot.
I got it because it has SOS emergency feature that I need for my remote waters fishing trips where I would in the past rent satellite texting units for those trips - no longer need it now...
I never use the Pro stuff like video and photos - just take snapshots of my dogs and fish I catch & release....
MacRumors members tend to be more techy / geeky / OCD types that obsess on specs and features that I never see or use.
Guess I am not your typical MR member....
Why you should buy 14 Plus:
- It's lighter
- It's "newer," and thus have software features that is not available on 13 Pro Max (eg. action mode).
- It has newer and more efficient modem
- You cannot even buy 13 Pro Max directly from Apple anymore, and even if you can find 13 Pro Max, it would probably be still more expensive than the 14 Plus brand new.
If you can find it, You should get the 13 Pro Max:
- If you must have telephoto lens, ProRAW, Pro-motion
- If you like the stainless steel material/colors/glossy design/frosty back
- You prefer heftier phone
- You need physical SIM slot (if you're in the US)
- It's lighter
- It's "newer," and thus have software features that is not available on 13 Pro Max (eg. action mode).
- It has newer and more efficient modem
- You cannot even buy 13 Pro Max directly from Apple anymore, and even if you can find 13 Pro Max, it would probably be still more expensive than the 14 Plus brand new.
If you can find it, You should get the 13 Pro Max:
- If you must have telephoto lens, ProRAW, Pro-motion
- If you like the stainless steel material/colors/glossy design/frosty back
- You prefer heftier phone
- You need physical SIM slot (if you're in the US)
It's more complicated than that since Apple now is using software to lock features to the newer phone, even if the SoC is the same. Eg. Action mode. There's no reason the 13 Pro Max couldn't do it imo, but Apple kept it as 14 lineup only feature.
Well, that is the problem. I don’t understand what is the value for the non-pros at the price difference. The pros are selling very well already, for good reason
The 14 plus also has a screen with lower max brightness. 14+ is max 800nits (typical) with 1200nits peak (HDR). 13PM is 1000/1200.
The 14+ has the same brightness as my old 12PM. Maybe they are re-using those same screens for the 14+ since the 12PM also lacks 120hz promotion.
The 13PM also gives you an extra storage option 1TB if you need it, the 14+ tops out at 512GB.
I think such questions are silly… and frankly impossible to answer. Nobody knows what you really need or want except YOU. Secondly, Apple doesn’t even sell the 13 Pro Max anymore. Maybe you can still get it thru one of the carriers… but why are you asking for others to convince you one way or the other why you should go with the iphone 14 plus? Some people might opt for the 14 plus just cause it’s new.or cheaper. Or perhaps they just like the color better. It is so subjective. Others may choose the 13 Pro Max cause they are into photography and need the extra lens. I dunno. someone else who is shallow might want it for for the status(although NOBODY really cares what iphone others have). It’s all a personal choice.
So does that mean if everyone is jumping off the mountain, you should do the same ??
I don't like the wording of "scam" but getting the 13 Pro instead was the advice of this video I just watched.