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As Apple still sells older iPhone models in other countries they need to continue supporting them therefore the iOS new releases are continually supporting older devices, even not all features are supported due to hardware limitation or marketing reasons they work well after a few updates.

About iOS getting slow, there will be instances when the App you are using hasn't be updated to the latest version of iOS that you are running and it may have some sluggish behavior, but this is not so frequent. And some of these apps you can run on the web or from your Mac so no biggy.
Another times is when your iPhone is running out of space. I take a lot of pictures and record plenty of HD videos and when there is not enough space left it becomes slow until I delete some.

Why I prefer iOS to Android. I never saw a need to get into Android. Since the first iPhone came out I have been using an iPhone and it has been getting better and better.
I used Palm OS devices in the 90s. And what Apple created with the App store is way better than anything done before for finding mobile software free and paid.

Customization is always available if you want to jailbreak. iOS 8 brings some widgets and customization not previously available (kind of catching up with Android here).

There are plenty of tools and kits for developers to create apps and more things to work in the software side as well as with other hardware devices.

HomeKit, HealthKit, the :apple:Watch and many other devices will spur into many other uses for iOS devices.

Now fast forward a couple of years in the future, and let's say that home automation is at it's prime time for a lot of devices and competitors thriving to provide secure solutions for Home Automation. I will not buy stuff that can be easily hacked, nor give away my home personal daily life to google, or Facebook, or whomever is out there then for free.

Apple may/will also get intrusive but still I have less concern with them than with Google. Google and Facebook are making huge profits by selling what we as users provide to them for free.
With Apple I still have the customer edge as I am paying for certain services, e.g. iTunes Match service. Even the tiny letters, etc. I know (will like to believe) that Apple uses the data to produce better products and services not to sell them to others.

Security and privacy are the main concern.

Android is free. These carriers and device manufacturers are always trying to catch up with Apple and own the user experience bloating with layers of unique crapware that I don't like and will never trust.

I have been using Apple products since the 80s and never had such a concern that Apple will jeopardize my personal data. Apple is not infalible but my experience so far has been very good.

Due to its nature and how it is widely distributed, Android is a very open wild-west for hackers and malware.
Maybe you can do your own setup in Android and spend a good enjoyable time tinkering and tweaking, but I prefer as others had mentioned, to spend my time using the iPhone/Mac/:apple:TV to create things, work, play media, games, communicating with my people, enjoy them while using them, instead of configuring, etc...

Do you used any anti-malware in Android? Where did you typically get your Andoid Apps? Any external sources?
 
As Apple still sells older iPhone models in other countries they need to continue supporting them therefore the iOS new releases are continually supporting older devices, even not all features are supported due to hardware limitation or marketing reasons they work well after a few updates.

About iOS getting slow, there will be instances when the App you are using hasn't be updated to the latest version of iOS that you are running and it may have some sluggish behavior, but this is not so frequent. And some of these apps you can run on the web or from your Mac so no biggy.
Another times is when your iPhone is running out of space. I take a lot of pictures and record plenty of HD videos and when there is not enough space left it becomes slow until I delete some.

Why I prefer iOS to Android. I never saw a need to get into Android. Since the first iPhone came out I have been using an iPhone and it has been getting better and better.
I used Palm OS devices in the 90s. And what Apple created with the App store is way better than anything done before for finding mobile software free and paid.

Customization is always available if you want to jailbreak. iOS 8 brings some widgets and customization not previously available (kind of catching up with Android here).

There are plenty of tools and kits for developers to create apps and more things to work in the software side as well as with other hardware devices.

HomeKit, HealthKit, the :apple:Watch and many other devices will spur into many other uses for iOS devices.

Now fast forward a couple of years in the future, and let's say that home automation is at it's prime time for a lot of devices and competitors thriving to provide secure solutions for Home Automation. I will not buy stuff that can be easily hacked, nor give away my home personal daily life to google, or Facebook, or whomever is out there then for free.

Apple may/will also get intrusive but still I have less concern with them than with Google. Google and Facebook are making huge profits by selling what we as users provide to them for free.
With Apple I still have the customer edge as I am paying for certain services, e.g. iTunes Match service. Even the tiny letters, etc. I know (will like to believe) that Apple uses the data to produce better products and services not to sell them to others.

Security and privacy are the main concern.

Android is free. These carriers and device manufacturers are always trying to catch up with Apple and own the user experience bloating with layers of unique crapware that I don't like and will never trust.

I have been using Apple products since the 80s and never had such a concern that Apple will jeopardize my personal data. Apple is not infalible but my experience so far has been very good.

Due to its nature and how it is widely distributed, Android is a very open wild-west for hackers and malware.
Maybe you can do your own setup in Android and spend a good enjoyable time tinkering and tweaking, but I prefer as others had mentioned, to spend my time using the iPhone/Mac/:apple:TV to create things, work, play media, games, communicating with my people, enjoy them while using them, instead of configuring, etc...

Do you used any anti-malware in Android? Where did you typically get your Andoid Apps? Any external sources?

Some very good points, I have used external sources multiple times as a way of getting around paying for apps (I know, I know...) I run an anti-virus scan on it every now and then just in case. Generally I don't install an application unless I am 100% certain that it is legitimate. Although so far I have heard of more privacy breaches from iOS than from Android, but then I assume that is because there are so many different versions of Android compared to iOS.
 
Why should I get the iPhone 6? (From an Android user)

I've used android since the htc hero days. I was rooting since then. Htc hero, evo4g, Galaxy skyrocket, sgs2,sgs3,htc one, htc one x, note1, note2, etc. I started my iPhone trend with the 4, 4s, 5, 5s,6+. All the way to the ip5 they were lacking one or two features I wanted in a phone. My main reason for switching would have been android os becoming sluggish over the course of usage. I also got tired of rooting and flashing hundreds of roms per phone just to get a better experience. I also think that apples Eco system flows a little better then googles. I feel that Google os has to be distributed to too many manufactures which make android not tend to be as solid as ios. At the end of the day it's still user preference. I just wanted to share how I've been a long time user of android and switched. I also am a Mac user who switched from pc a year ago and haven't looked back. I also think that using adb shell etc. For android is so much easier on Mac then windows.
 
Keep in mind that hand off and continuity in Yosemite is limited to newer macs. Pretty much 2012 and forward. Requires Bluetooth 4.0 le cards. I am considering upgrading my Mac, if it is possible.
 
I've had both Android phones and iPhones. I recently came from the Galaxy S5 and I like the iPhone 6+ a lot better. The S5 had all these cool bells and whistles but I found I never used them in day to day life. I found the interface outdated and unattractive. It was a huge pain in the butt to move music from my Mac to the S5. It asked me every single time when I clicked on a link what I wanted to open it in, which was highly annoying since I would always click Always. I have never understood what all the fuss was about widgets. Everything on the mac platform syncs between devices so seamlessly. Plus, of all the people in my life I literally only had one friend who didn't have an iPhone. FaceTime is a huge plus. Apple's customer service is amazing and the support you can receive at the Apple Store is something you don't find with any other company. To each his own, but the thing I lovely about Apple products is they work and do what they are supposed to do.
 
I've used android since the htc hero days. I was rooting since then. Htc hero, evo4g, Galaxy skyrocket, sgs2,sgs3,htc one, htc one x, note1, note2, etc. I started my iPhone trend with the 4, 4s, 5, 5s,6+. All the way to the ip5 they were lacking one or two features I wanted in a phone. My main reason for switching would have been android os becoming sluggish over the course of usage. I also got tired of rooting and flashing hundreds of roms per phone just to get a better experience. I also think that apples Eco system flows a little better then googles. I feel that Google os has to be distributed to too many manufactures which make android not tend to be as solid as ios. At the end of the day it's still user preference. I just wanted to share how I've been a long time user of android and switched. I also am a Mac user who switched from pc a year ago and haven't looked back. I also think that using adb shell etc. For android is so much easier on Mac then windows.

Couldn't agree more, although I tend to use fastboot more than adb. Thanks for the insight though.
 
i switched from my xperia z2, its ok the only thing i miss is not having to use my computer to create ringtones and put music on my phone. I really wish apple would do something about this. Also, the google apps look better on ios. so there is that.

Also, Apple seems to be the only company who can get a LCD screen right, they don't mess with the gamma to give us the ******** "colors must pop".
 
I came from android(i had a Droid 2, Htc Droid Incredible, and Galaxy Nexus which was fully modded with custom rom, kernals and everything you could do). What made me switch was when the iPhone 5 was released i just really really liked the design of the phone itself. It's funny because i was anti-apple back then haha. I took a chance and used my upgrade for the iPhone 5. I actually sold my iPhone 5 and went back to my Nexus and ended coming back to an iPhone.
Why? Well because iOS and the phone's hardware are optimized so well for each other that it would always run buttery smooth and minimal lag compared to my previous android devices. Battery life was much better, the build quality of the phone is superb, 3rd party support is insane! Yes iOS is nowhere near as customizable as Android but i'll take iOS's smoother os experience. One thing that i hate about android is the wait on non-nexus devices on OS updates. I remember when android 2.3 gingerbread took about 6 months after it was released to finally make it to my Droid 2. It has gotten better but it's still a wait to receive the updates and if you want to be supported for the life of your contract you must have the flagship phones.
 
i switched from my xperia z2, its ok the only thing i miss is not having to use my computer to create ringtones and put music on my phone. I really wish apple would do something about this. Also, the google apps look better on ios. so there is that.

Also, Apple seems to be the only company who can get a LCD screen right, they don't mess with the gamma to give us the ******** "colors must pop".

No doubt a shot at Samsung :p I really don't like their phones so I am in agreement with you there. Made of plastic, running touchwiz and over saturated screens. Awful.
 
Why should I get the iPhone 6? (From an Android user)

So I was in your situation 2 months ago, then I did he T-Mobile Test Drive. I had an HTC One M8 GPE running KitKat 4.4.4. I was rooted, and had rooted all my prior Android phones, but I was getting tired of the "scene".

I tried out the 5s for a week beside my One and I was shocked at how much more I enjoyed iOS, now it's not perfect but here is what I can say about based on my usage and your posts:

As far as Google services you will only "miss out" on 2. Google Keep does not have an app and Google Now is nothing like it was. I used Google Now a lot so missing it kinda sucks but o well. Otherwise almost all the other Google services are there and are almost as good. Google Drive, Google Maps, Hangouts, GMail, and Google Music... It's all there and they work relatively the same.

Some of the things I miss from my Android devices are using it as a mobile thumb drive, downloading of videos straight to the device and the great Google reverse lookup Dialer.

But on iOS the pluses were just too many. The camera is like nothing you will find on Android. The slo-mo controls are top notch and it's stupid easy to switch settings. The quality is also insane, focus is fast, all my shots look great they really do.

Second, Apple did widgets right. I hated Android widgets, in fact I really didn't care for the Android home screen. App drawers, pages and stuff we're just poorly designed IMO. I have everything in folders and the widgets in the notification panel are much better then the Android counterpart.

Finally the app selection is (generally) better then what Android offers with the exception of the Google Apps. I say generally because there is no Falcon for Twitter, or Talon for Twitter. There is no Root Explorer or Reddit Sync. Otherwise I love the iOS design style and a lot of what iOS offers. But it all comes down to the fact that iOS generally just works. There are mounds more settings in iOS (which can be overwhelming at first) but you get more control over what you want to control such as fine grained notification control, permissions management and a smart backup solution. Little touches such as the Lockscreen accent colors changing to the wallpaper are beautiful, the Dialer ring colors accenting to the frosted glass look of the background are perfect touches.

With my Android devices I always had to fiddle with it to get it just right and even then it didn't feel perfect. I just grab my iPhone and it's just perfect, everything is where and how I want it and I have applications for just about everything under the sun. (140 on my iPhone right now). iOS isn't perfect, but for me it is just better and it took 8 versions of iOS to do it.

Oh, you can't easily change notification sounds... If that matters to you then you may want to stop right now lol.

Edit - some background: My first Android device was the Droid 1, since then I have rooted and run roms on my HTC Incredible, Thunderbolt, Galaxy Nexus (both VZW & GSM versions), HTC One (M7 & M8), and a Note 3. I also have owned an Android running HP Touchpad, Nexus 7 (gen 1 & 2), Nexus 10 and Ouya. My best phone and tablet have been my iPad rMini & iPhone 6.
 
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No doubt a shot at Samsung :p I really don't like their phones so I am in agreement with you there. Made of plastic, running touchwiz and over saturated screens. Awful.

its not just samsung, just about every single android manufacture messes with the gamma and its so very annoying.


Thunderbolt

worst phone ever ever made i literally couldnt go two classes without it dying.
 
Hey guys, I coming to the end of my contract, and seeing as I have a Macbook Pro, am seriously considering getting an iPhone 6.

I would like to talk about why I should move over from Android (please don't come in like fanboys). I currently have a Nexus 5, and am running the pre-alpha version of Android L.

I knows the ins and outs of Android, it's advantages and disadvantages, as well as the merits of the new handsets that have recently been released, such as the LG G3, Xperia Z3, Samsung Alpha (although I hate Samsung devices with a passion) and HTC One M8.

I'd just like some frank answers really as to what reasons others may have had for moving over from Android, or what iPhone users really like about their phones that I can relate to.

Also, if you come along and just say that Android is *****, I'll just assume that you're of below average IQ.

Once Yosemite is released you will be able to used Continuity and Hand off.

start tasks on your phone and continue on your Mac vice versa as well as receive and place phone calls using your Mac. Also receive all Texts on your Mac
 
I came from android(i had a Droid 2, Htc Droid Incredible, and Galaxy Nexus which was fully modded with custom rom, kernals and everything you could do). What made me switch was when the iPhone 5 was released i just really really liked the design of the phone itself. It's funny because i was anti-apple back then haha. I took a chance and used my upgrade for the iPhone 5. I actually sold my iPhone 5 and went back to my Nexus and ended coming back to an iPhone.
Why? Well because iOS and the phone's hardware are optimized so well for each other that it would always run buttery smooth and minimal lag compared to my previous android devices. Battery life was much better, the build quality of the phone is superb, 3rd party support is insane! Yes iOS is nowhere near as customizable as Android but i'll take iOS's smoother os experience. One thing that i hate about android is the wait on non-nexus devices on OS updates. I remember when android 2.3 gingerbread took about 6 months after it was released to finally make it to my Droid 2. It has gotten better but it's still a wait to receive the updates and if you want to be supported for the life of your contract you must have the flagship phones.

I had a Galaxy Nexus too. It had THE worst battery life of ANY battery powered electronics device that I have ever used. Ever.
 
Hey guys, I coming to the end of my contract, and seeing as I have a Macbook Pro, am seriously considering getting an iPhone 6.

I would like to talk about why I should move over from Android (please don't come in like fanboys). I currently have a Nexus 5, and am running the pre-alpha version of Android L.

I knows the ins and outs of Android, it's advantages and disadvantages, as well as the merits of the new handsets that have recently been released, such as the LG G3, Xperia Z3, Samsung Alpha (although I hate Samsung devices with a passion) and HTC One M8.

I'd just like some frank answers really as to what reasons others may have had for moving over from Android, or what iPhone users really like about their phones that I can relate to.

Also, if you come along and just say that Android is *****, I'll just assume that you're of below average IQ.

I use both interchangeably. After my early flip phones, I essentially came into Android from a WinMo phone (original HTC Touch) and wanted to get some more functionality with respect to the internet. That's when I got my original GalaxyTab 7 with Frodo and loaded up a rooted Gingerbread Rom after waiting forever for an update from my carrier. I eventually got the GT 10.1 w/Honeycomb to get a bigger screen for web browsing.

However as time went on, I would read an article (mainstream media or tech site) and hear about a cool app, but then come to find it was for iOS only. That prompted me to go for the iPhone and eventually the iPad. But as a note, these idevices were not available to my carrier (Sprint) until 3 years ago and I didn't want to try to start jumping carriers just for that. I did end up getting the iPad w/wifi only though.

There were (and still are) pros and cons for either. One big issue with iOS (and I know this is probably a controversial subject) is Flash. Too many websites out there still use it and Apple is (probably rightly) disgusted with Adobe's proliferation of it, and thus refuses to support it. However Android does still display it. As more and more move to HTML 5, Flash is slowly being replaced.

An issue with stock Android is the user interface (including launchers) that some hardware vendors (notably Samsung) apply that often get in the way and even destroy the user experience depending on what one wants to do. Add to this carrier bloatware and it can become a challenge. I have generally used my own selected launchers for my Android devices but some hoops have to be jumped to get rid of the bloatware.

I would be negligent to add that iTunes for music is superior to either Google Music or Amazon Music. But then the Kindle (which is Amazon's Android device as well as app - including one made for iOS), for books is superior to iBooks. Google Maps was obviously better than Apple's early attempt but then the various newspaper apps have still been pretty superior on iOS. I am hoping that with Apple opening up the keyboard API, that I can get a better (non-Swype) keyboard for the 6+ (preferably Thumb Keyboard).

So I expect it probably boils down to how you use the device and what you do on it - and whether the functionality is there for you.

And as a FYI, I don't use OS X or Winblows. I use Linux (have run various versions for home going on 20 years now), although I still haven't been able to get iTunes running in Wine, so I just dual boot to do backups & sync (haven't had time to try to set something up in a VM).
 
For me it's the sleekness. Everything is so well built on iPhone, the apps are fantastic and have great design. Everything works together so well. Things are easy to find and fairly intuitive most of the time. Apps like Tweetbot, DayOne, AlienBlue - they're fantastic and very slick. Health is new but I think it has real potential and could be a touchstone for a lot of people to keep track of their physical health in one place.

There's no carrier bloatware, and if you're looking for a way to get away from Google's influence, iPhone is a great way to do it. Apps don't need access to everything on your phone if you just want to take pictures or browse Twitter or whatever with them, a problem that I've noticed over on Android. The support is better and you don't need to be concerned that you might pick a manufacturer that decides not to support updates to the OS in the future, leaving you high and dry. While Apple does have apps they load on the phone, they don't slow it down or impact performance the way that Touchwiz does, for example.

iOS is entering a stage where things seem to be opening up. Widgets on the today screen, and I read on Reddit yesterday that Apple is giving developers access to more of the engine behind Safari, which is great.

The customer service is superb. If you live near an Apple store you can have the confidence that all you need to do is make an appointment and someone will be available to look over your phone, and if there are issues, they'll do a swap. They also offer screen replacements at a pretty reasonable price. Even if you don't live near a store, Apple's service is above and beyond anything the other manufacturers can muster, imo.

The integration is pretty awesome, too. Continuity and Handoff will make your life a lot easier.
 
So I have ordered an iphone for the first time ever. I am planning to try it out for a bit to see what I think of it in real life usage and then I'll make the decision to keep it or sell it. I have been a loyal Android user since the almighty G1 (useless trackball and all haha), but what has enticed me to give it a try is the often superior battery life and better performing camera, both important features to my everyday use.

I had been waiting patiently for the new Moto X to debut and it certainly looks like an incredibly phone. I personally think the Bamboo Moto X is prettier than the iphone. However, as reviewers have pointed the camera is just "ok" and the battery life is "good" but not "great".

In addition, as an Android user I've always been frustrated by the plethora of great accessories that exist for the iphone and the dearth of accessories for even the most popular Android phones. Never mind that the most popular phones usually don't run stock Android. While Android itself is great, those skinned versions like Sense and TouchWiz are unbearable to use IMO.

So all in all, I'm going to give it a shot for a while, and if it's not for me I'll either return it if I'm within the return window or sell it and lose very little if any money doing so (also a nice perk).

To the OP, maybe you should do the same. Then you can know full well whether an iphone is for you or not.
 
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To the OP, maybe you should do the same. Then you can know full well whether an iphone is for you or not.

I don't exactly have the money to do that right now, but I am waiting to see what Android L and the Nexus 6 are like before making my decision so when the time comes I may have saved enough money.

All the advice is fantastic though guys, keep it coming! It seems I'm not the only person that is benefitting from it here :)
 
I am in IT for a living and while it used to be fun to mess around with custom Linux/Unix/Windows installs and such, I just don't have the time anymore. Android is definitely more customizable but it generally requires more time to tweak. It is also more open, which in terms of a phone is a bad thing IMO. There have been plenty of rogue apps that got downloaded thinking they were legit but they weren't and massive data compromises. The fact that anti-malware apps exist on Android is proof enough it is a problem. These are the main reasons why I won't run Android.

iOS isn't as customizable but it runs smooth as silk, I consider it a portable cloud based OS in the fact that with icloud backup, you can restore to ANY phone and be up and running in very little time. The apple eco system is much more tightly controlled to insure apps are all malware free. I personally use the gmail app and not the native mail app and I also sync my contacts and calendar via gmail instead of icloud. I do this so I can share calendars with my office who use a multitude of different devices and protocols.

Anyway, get one, use and use it. YOu have 14 days to return it if you don't like it. Best of luck on whatever you decide :apple:
 
I don't exactly have the money to do that right now, but I am waiting to see what Android L and the Nexus 6 are like before making my decision so when the time comes I may have saved enough money.

All the advice is fantastic though guys, keep it coming! It seems I'm not the only person that is benefitting from it here :)

I have the iPhone 6+. I've owned the iPhone since the 3G. This is the first time I'm considering moving to Android or waiting a year to upgrade. I have a Macbook Pro and an iPad Air. So I'll still be in the Apple ecosystem. As far as the 6+, I believe it is gimped in hardware aspects. The 1GB of RAM is not enough. Outside of the 2-3 most recent apps, if you go back further the app has to reload. So the multitasking isn't that great. Safari tabs reload often. Same scenario, anything but the most current 2-3 tabs get reloaded. It's the same problem on the iPad Air. I never had this issue with my iPhone 5. Also, the desktop scaler in the 6+ has to downscale the resolution to 1080P, and that seems to be causing lag. There is a thread on this. For a $1000 phone, this is not acceptable. Luckily, my iPhone 5 didn't sell on ebay, and I'm going to go back to it to ride this out for a couple of months. I'm interested in the Nexus 6 (X), the Note 4, and Z3 to see what they are like. I'm also curious if Apple can fix the lag issues on the 6+ (the 6 isn't having the problem according to some because it doesn't have the scaler).

Things that are great on iPhone:

  • Ecosystem
  • TouchID
  • Support
  • Generally works (outside of iOS 8 bugs)
  • Resale value

The 1GB of RAM may be ok for now if you don't mind limited multitasking and reloading of Safari tabs, but I believe it will be more of an issue for iOS 9 and beyond.

Either way, if I keep my iPhone 5 or move to Android, I can get on the S cycle of upgrades if I want in the next year, where the flaws get fixed. That's my $.03 cents.
 
Here's why I switched to and kept the iPhone 6+ over the Galaxy Note 3 (not in any order):

1. TouchID: It's really nice not having to type a passcode for your lockscreen while still having it locked so no one can get on. Same thing when downloading apps.
2. Camera: This was huge for me. I was always annoyed with my Note 3 camera. After using the 6+ camera, I can easily say it's better than any camera I've ever used on any phone and better than any point-and-shoot camera I've used. The low light performance absolutely blows me away. I can't express how much happier I am with it than the Note 3's.
3. Connectivity: I've always missed iMessage, emojis, ease of syncing with iTunes, FaceTime, etc. since I switched back to Android from an iPhone. Also, everything just works with the iPhone, as many people have said before. I didn't really find myself customizing with Android as much as I thought I would and really just got to the point where I wanted a great overall phone.
4. iOS 8/Yosemite: The fact that Apple is starting to push the boundaries on their locked ecosystem made me want to switch as well. For example, third party keyboards and app interactions. Handoff made me want to switch as well since I'd be able to get calls, messages, etc. on my Macs and "hand websites off" from one device to the next.
5. Design: The Galaxy Note 3 lacks design imo. The software overall is outdated, not consistent, cluttered, and just overall doesn't look that great. The design on the outside isn't bad looking but isn't very premium. Plus just the divide between Samsung/Android. iPhone is the complete opposite. Design is beautiful, fresh, consistent throughout, and clean. The actual hardware design is stunning and very "premium" imo. I actually had to say "wow" when I took it out of the box, it amazed me so much. Apple has complete control over the hardware and software so everything is designed to work together and efficiently.
6. Screen: Best screen I've used on a mobile device period. I can't get over how well it does in direct sunlight either. The clarity and quality is unbelievable.
7. Battery: I was amazed at how much better the battery on the 6+ is compared to the 4S and Note 3 I had. Note 3 was better than the 4S but 6+ far exceeds both. This will be different if you get the regular 6 though.

The reasons I switched are pretty minor, as my Note 3 still performs great, but it was enough to make me switch.
 
To point out and maybe you disagree but I found the iPhone 4S on iOS 5 faster and less laggy then the iPhone 5S on iOS 7 and now the iPhone 6/6+ on iOS 8.



Lot of thread about iPhone 6 lag going on which is a first. Usually its people going on about older devices getting slower which is obvious but not newer device being laggy out of the box.



You don't find that to be the case? I did find the 4S to be much more fluid then on iOS5 then any demo or friends model 6 on iOS 8. Thats only my personal experience though.


Good point- we have yet to see iOS completely return to the "smoothness" level of pre-7 iOS. To be honest though, my iPhone 6 runs iOS 8 almost perfectly. There are a couple of small hiccups, but it's been a long time since I've had an iOS device this smooth- and it's wonderful. I think it won't be long until iOS 8 matches 6 and earlier frame for frame when it comes to fluidity, at least on the 5s and higher. In the meantime though, iOS 5 and 6 remain the kings of smoothness.
 
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