Johns12

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I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones. Some background about me so you can better understand why I have this question.

I have been using Apple products since around 1992. Up until 4 years ago, my wife and I had 2 MacPros, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 5 and 6. I have owned every iPhone through 6 giving my wife my old one when I updated.

About 4 years ago I personally got fed up with the iPhone for many reasons. It is still a great phone, but I had other needs. I decided to give Android a try and purchased a used Samsung S7edge. I liked it, so, after about a year, I bought a new Note 8 which I am using to this day. My wife uses an iPhone 7 (we’ll be updating her soon).

Whenever a discussion about phones comes up, many of the responses are, stupid/cheap/poor/gullible/ any other pejorative, is used to describe anyone who uses an Android phone. I don’t get it. It’s a PHONE. Do people really get there self worth based on the phone they use. And then, to make it into a class issue, “you must be poor” thing really baffles me. I understand this is an Apple site, but the attitude is embarrassing to me as an Apple product user. I have been on this site for over 20 years and have watched the users get more and more like this. Does it really affect you what phone someone else uses?

The Note 8 I have has been fantastic. No slow down, and it works as well now as it did nearly 4 years ago when I bought it. I get monthly security updates (although it’s more like every other month).
 

StumpyBloke

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Yeah I agree with everything you say. There are some users here that go out of their way to bash Android at every single opportunity even when the topic in question has nothing to do with Android.

For whatever reason they need to lash out at something that they don’t like or don’t understand… This behaviour can very often be attributed to insecurity of course. Also a perceived lack of power and control from the person lashing out.

It is nothing more than childish play ground behaviour from adults that really should know better. Unfortunately, there are fanboys on both sides of the camp and they are as bad as each other.

It’s a very similar behaviour to those people who are of the mindset that there is only one opinion that is valid, correct and worth listening to, and that is theirs. Any other opinions are, in their eyes, useless and worthless. Of course they are doing nothing more there than projecting.

At the end of the day, there are pros and cons for both operating systems and phones. Neither are perfect, neither are 100% reliable, there is good and bad in both.
 

snipr125

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There is now also elitism amongst Apple users, not just against Android users. Some (not all) ipad Pro users looking down their noses at Ipad air users, and the same with Iphone Pro over the regular/se iphone owners. Aluminium looks cheap, 60hz screen is for peasants… it goes on and on. 12 mini owners getting dumped on left, right and centre.
 
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Shirasaki

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Idk. Is that because their egos are so low? Is it really difficult to admit you are wrong here? Accepting different opinion becomes a crime? Someone having a different view suddenly becomes a heretic? The diode behaviour is through the roof every day goes by.

Apple needs no protection from fanboys fangirls. They are doing business, performing countless transactions, and any customer is a little more than a data entry in their database and that’s it. Nobody gains any benefit from defending Apple. There’s no loyalty rewards. There’s no VIP customers reward for the best defender or something like that. I just don’t get it.
 

tedley

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Good topic. Thanks for starting the thread!

I'm an iPhone fan. It meets my needs in many ways. I am, however, complete in your camp. I have several close relatives who use android phones and I say good for you. As long as you use what works for you. As you said earlier its a PHONE. It's also true that many android users exhibit the same snobbery that iphone and apple users are infamous for. "Your phone has a closed file system", "You can't customize your home screen" bla, bla bla, Both sides are guilty of this crime. I'm a software developer and about half our team uses iphones and half uses android if that tells you anything.

I think the whole thing is just human nature, a kind of tribalism. I remember as a kid my dad arguing with his friends bout how Chevy was the best and would make extremely disparaging remarks about anyone who drove a Dodge My father-in-law is a Dodge man and hates Fords. I LOVE my Mustang!!!

I think it's just an issue of maturity and excepting that not people have the same needs or wants whether it's about phones, cars, PCs, sports teams, etc.
 

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I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones. Some background about me so you can better understand why I have this question.

I have been using Apple products since around 1992. Up until 4 years ago, my wife and I had 2 MacPros, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 5 and 6. I have owned every iPhone through 6 giving my wife my old one when I updated.

About 4 years ago I personally got fed up with the iPhone for many reasons. It is still a great phone, but I had other needs. I decided to give Android a try and purchased a used Samsung S7edge. I liked it, so, after about a year, I bought a new Note 8 which I am using to this day. My wife uses an iPhone 7 (we’ll be updating her soon).

Whenever a discussion about phones comes up, many of the responses are, stupid/cheap/poor/gullible/ any other pejorative, is used to describe anyone who uses an Android phone. I don’t get it. It’s a PHONE. Do people really get there self worth based on the phone they use. And then, to make it into a class issue, “you must be poor” thing really baffles me. I understand this is an Apple site, but the attitude is embarrassing to me as an Apple product user. I have been on this site for over 20 years and have watched the users get more and more like this. Does it really affect you what phone someone else uses?

The Note 8 I have has been fantastic. No slow down, and it works as well now as it did nearly 4 years ago when I bought it. I get monthly security updates (although it’s more like every other month).
Unfortunately, a lot of people on this forum appear to attach self-worth to Apple purchases. There are also others here who enjoy being contrary because it gets a tech rise out of others.
 

Johns12

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Good topic. Thanks for starting the thread!

I'm an iPhone fan. It meets my needs in many ways. I am, however, complete in your camp. I have several close relatives who use android phones and I say good for you. As long as you use what works for you. As you said earlier its a PHONE. It's also true that many android users exhibit the same snobbery that iphone and apple users are infamous for. "Your phone has a closed file system", "You can't customize your home screen" bla, bla bla, Both sides are guilty of this crime. I'm a software developer and about half our team uses iphones and half uses android if that tells you anything.

I think the whole thing is just human nature, a kind of tribalism. I remember as a kid my dad arguing with his friends bout how Chevy was the best and would make extremely disparaging remarks about anyone who drove a Dodge My father-in-law is a Dodge man and hates Fords. I LOVE my Mustang!!!

I think it's just an issue of maturity and excepting that not people have the same needs or wants whether it's about phones, cars, PCs, sports teams, etc.
Yes, Yes, Yes, it is a kind of tribalism. Unfortunately, it does come up with just about every human interaction, and yes, it's there on the Android side also. Do people really believe the stuff they say???
 
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LeeW

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I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones.

Whilst I agree there can be a lot of that, it's an Apple forum, people are like that on forums generally. I have been on a couple of Android forums and mentioning iPhone gets the same kind of comments you don't understand on here.

I do laugh even when Windows gets mentioned and people tell the person they should not be here if they want to discuss Windows. Statistically speaking there will be more Windows users on these forums than macOS users. But you know, some like to pour hot water over anything non-Apple.
 

turbineseaplane

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I do laugh even when Windows gets mentioned and people tell the person they should not be here if they want to discuss Windows. Statistically speaking there will be more Windows users on these forums than macOS users. But you know, some like to pour hot water over anything non-Apple.

To this point

I think there is at least one moderator who doesn't use macOS (but does use iOS devices).
 
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TopToffee

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It’s got nothing to do with iPhone users.

Go onto almost any forum on the internet other than this one and mention that you have an iPhone, or a Mac, or an Apple TV, or an iPad and you’ll be deluged with comments about how you made a bad choice, or that they’re useless, or overpriced.
 

eyoungren

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I am of the opinion that if there was some way for Apple to physically mark (even while using a case) which storage option you purchased for your iPhone/iPad, a lot of this elitism would disappear. It would not eliminate it entirely I think, but it would shut up the price snobs who could only afford the lowest storage option.

A lot of these elitists hide behind the fact that no one can tell they couldn't afford more than the base model. It's the same smug arrogance as an old friend of mine who could only afford the base model Mustang V6 with manual windows, plastic hubcaps and a CD controller that was always falling off the dash. He was a 'proud' (arrogant) Mustang owner until you pointed all that stuff out.

Personally, I don't really care - but these people do and being able to call them on that would be useful.
 

fourthtunz

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I truly do not understand the overtly classist and over the top comments on this site when the discussion is about the iPhone and Android phones. Some background about me so you can better understand why I have this question.

I have been using Apple products since around 1992. Up until 4 years ago, my wife and I had 2 MacPros, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPhone 5 and 6. I have owned every iPhone through 6 giving my wife my old one when I updated.

About 4 years ago I personally got fed up with the iPhone for many reasons. It is still a great phone, but I had other needs. I decided to give Android a try and purchased a used Samsung S7edge. I liked it, so, after about a year, I bought a new Note 8 which I am using to this day. My wife uses an iPhone 7 (we’ll be updating her soon).

Whenever a discussion about phones comes up, many of the responses are, stupid/cheap/poor/gullible/ any other pejorative, is used to describe anyone who uses an Android phone. I don’t get it. It’s a PHONE. Do people really get there self worth based on the phone they use. And then, to make it into a class issue, “you must be poor” thing really baffles me. I understand this is an Apple site, but the attitude is embarrassing to me as an Apple product user. I have been on this site for over 20 years and have watched the users get more and more like this. Does it really affect you what phone someone else uses?

The Note 8 I have has been fantastic. No slow down, and it works as well now as it did nearly 4 years ago when I bought it. I get monthly security updates (although it’s more like every other month).
Im sure Iphone users who go to android sites get bashed too? I just don't go to android sites :) I don't think it has anything to do with elitism. Why would it? anyone can buy an iPhone.
 

thefourthpope

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There is now also elitism amongst Apple users, not just against Android users. Some (not all) ipad Pro users looking down their noses at Ipad air users, and the same with Iphone Pro over the regular/se iphone owners. Aluminium looks cheap, 60hz screen is for peasants… it goes on and on. 12 mini owners getting dumped on left, right and centre.
It also crosses device types. Any thread about iPads feels dominated by people stating as fact their opinion that a person who uses an iPad must not be a “pro” or have a “real workflow.” Like if I don’t exclusively run final cut on a mac pro I must be unemployed.
 

LizKat

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We're living in an excruciatingly contrarian (or else just cranky!) age, apparently. Whatever we think, someone else thinks otherwise and may even think we've no business holding a view different to their own. So it's not just about iPhones or alternatives to them, it's about everything... so long as someone's ready to overreact and make a thing out of someone else's personal choice.

And of course advocating for "the only right choice" of commercial products is just tip of the iceberg when it comes to people getting up in your face over something, including ideas, but I'll not pursue that remark farther here.

Anyway I don't care if I'm called an elitist or a sewer rat, someone would have to take my XR out of my cold dead hand, and the same goes for all my other Apple gear.

Sure, I have some long-raised eyebrows over certain iOS and MacOS features (bugs?) and a long wish-list for fixes or feature-adds, but I jumped the fence to a Mac back in 1985 and haven't really looked back since. My gear ain't broke, don't need fixin'. If and when something does finally croak, I get another Apple refurb off their online shelving.

"Sosumi" :p
 

turbineseaplane

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Sure, I have some long-raised eyebrows over certain iOS and MacOS features (bugs?) and a long wish-list for fixes or feature-adds, but I jumped the fence to a Mac back in 1985 and haven't really looked back since. My gear ain't broke, don't need fixin'. If and when something does finally croak, I get another Apple refurb off their online shelving.

You are SO WRONG! I'm going to report this post.
I'm offended.

/s
:D ;) :)
 

Johns12

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Don't get me wrong, I realize that this happens across the board including some Android users. I've seen it here, where an IPhone user makes a foolish comment and it's meet with an equally if not more foolish comment by an Android user. I guess it just saddens me that people can be this petty. And sadly, I'm old enough to know better 😀
 

bunty07

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It’s interesting the reactions of some people, but at the end of the day, it’s just an opinion. Like my comment as well is an opinion.
Usually I face comments from others because I use iPhone and they use android.
Always Android is more open etc. I always listen to them. Many times they show me what they like to do on Android. I noticed that I can do the same things as well in iPhone.
I realize they have never tried IOS before, and are just going based on rumors in the internet or just plain wrong information.
but whatever makes them happy, I just don’t waste time talking about phones, when there are so much other things to talk about.
 
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