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weidmanj

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Sep 14, 2007
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My thoughts are... the versions of OS X running on the iPhone and the iPod Touch are the same. They basically run on exactly the same hardware (processor etc.). The only differences are bluetooth (maybe), speakers, mic, etc. just like on different macs.

So "OS X for Portables" is currently in version 1.1 (on the iPod Touch). OS X 1.1 doesn't "support" the iPhone... but the version that we keep seeing in ads (1.1.1) does. They're the same software... I'd bet my life on it.
 
My thoughts are... the versions of OS X running on the iPhone and the iPod Touch are the same. They basically run on exactly the same hardware (processor etc.). The only differences are bluetooth (maybe), speakers, mic, etc. just like on different macs.

So "OS X for Portables" is currently in version 1.1 (on the iPod Touch). OS X 1.1 doesn't "support" the iPhone... but the version that we keep seeing in ads (1.1.1) does. They're the same software... I'd bet my life on it.

I buy that argument. Now we just need Apple to release it so I can play with new things on my iPhone.... Of course it would be nice if they added more than just the WiFi store.
 
Hopefully

I hear (from a personal very reliable source) that the stereo bluetooth profile was snuck into the 1.0.2 update, but isn't working... maybe they'll unlock that.
 
I hear (from a personal very reliable source) that the stereo bluetooth profile was snuck into the 1.0.2 update, but isn't working... maybe they'll unlock that.

Interesting. So that would allow for stereo bluetooth headphones to work with the iPhone potentially? Or bluetooth streaming to external speakers perhaps? I've never used bluetooth for much except wireless keyboards/mice and wireless syncing of a mobile phone, so I'm not very familiar with the profiles for audio.
 
Yup.. from what I hear, stereo headphones are just an update or two away.
 
Yup.. from what I hear, stereo headphones are just an update or two away.

I can definitely see the use for that. I listen to music at work on my iPhone while I'm coding and it'd be nice not having the cord getting in my way. Are there bluetooth headsets that would work with the aluminum iMacs or Mac Pros too?
 
what i dont get about apple and the iphone is why apple is withholding features . i would think that mms, ichat, stereo bluetooth headset support, and better speakerphone volume would sell more phones. sure, maybe most users buy it not knowing it lacks that, but it would be nice for them just to release them all now, not make us wait.
 
what i dont get about apple and the iphone is why apple is withholding features . i would think that mms, ichat, stereo bluetooth headset support, and better speakerphone volume would sell more phones. sure, maybe most users buy it not knowing it lacks that, but it would be nice for them just to release them all now, not make us wait.

I agree, but I think that they also might be backed up with trying to get Leopard out the door next month and they just wanted to get the iPhone on the market, knowing that because everything on the iPhone is software-based, they can roll out updates and features as they perfect them.
 
what i dont get about apple and the iphone is why apple is withholding features . i would think that mms, ichat, stereo bluetooth headset support, and better speakerphone volume would sell more phones. sure, maybe most users buy it not knowing it lacks that, but it would be nice for them just to release them all now, not make us wait.

You think the features are already done?
 
what i dont get about apple and the iphone is why apple is withholding features . i would think that mms, ichat, stereo bluetooth headset support, and better speakerphone volume would sell more phones. sure, maybe most users buy it not knowing it lacks that, but it would be nice for them just to release them all now, not make us wait.

If the features are done I don't think Apple would hold them back. Either Apple is working on these features or they don't have plans for them.

Bottom line, if they had tried to put in every feature that anyone could ever want, we'd still be waiting for the iPhone in the first place...
 
If the features are done I don't think Apple would hold them back. Either Apple is working on these features or they don't have plans for them.

Bottom line, if they had tried to put in every feature that anyone could ever want, we'd still be waiting for the iPhone in the first place...

Steve has to have something else to show of during the Leopard Show ;)
 
Bear in mind Apple have essentially had to start from scratch, whilst basically making things work in what is basically a new paradigm. Its unreasonable to expect everything at once. Software development just doesnt work like that.
 
How 'bout this (yes, I LOVE to rain on peoples parades!)

1.1 would be the same on both Touch and iPhone... but the hold up for going to iPhone is that 1.1.1 corrects the buffer overflow that allows unlocking. So thew iPhone update is held up until iUnlock is blocked....
 
Bear in mind Apple have essentially had to start from scratch, whilst basically making things work in what is basically a new paradigm. Its unreasonable to expect everything at once. Software development just doesnt work like that.

You hit the nail on the head. I've wanted to say this exact thing in about half the posts on this forum. I think the main object was to make sure the phone, and what features it DOES have, worked flawlessly before adding tons of other features (and certainly allowing third-party development).

People were complaining within a week that there hadn't been a big update with new features. Who does that?? Make sure what is there works first, THEN add new features. If they had crammed every single feature in, you'd probably have a lot more bugs. I think for the product it is, we have heard very little about major bugs and crashes. That is pretty remarkable (no, not being a fanboy).

This happened with a company in my line of work. They created a brand new "state of the art" control console from scratch, then tried to get it out early to appease all the people talking about it. Many years later, the platform is still so unstable that almost no one will use it, minus a few die-hards. If they had stuck with their plan, and not tried to appease the masses by cramming in features, they would have had a successful product.

The features people want (MMS, to-dos, third-party apps) will certainly be available in time (yes, hacked, they already are), but it takes a little time to develop them into a working stable release. June 29 was the release date, and the phone HAD to be stable by then. Just don't get your panties in a wad and you'll have it all soon!
 
what i dont get about apple and the iphone is why apple is withholding features . i would think that mms, ichat, stereo bluetooth headset support, and better speakerphone volume would sell more phones. sure, maybe most users buy it not knowing it lacks that, but it would be nice for them just to release them all now, not make us wait.

My theory on that is Apple didn't have everything ready for launch. Apple had to sacrifice shipping the iPhone out with all the features activated in order to get the iPhone out by the end of June.

They also had to sacrifice stability, but hopefully that will be fixed with the next update.

One word:


MMS

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I thought this wouldn't be a big deal, but now I find myself wishing the iPhone had it. I think I'll jump on the "Give Us MMS" bandwagon.
 
I guess I'm one of the few who could care less about MMS. Copy paste? It would also be nice to be able to send contacts to others; since me and my wife both have iphones it would save me from doing a lot of work :) IM would be good as well. I just rarely use SMS or MMS.
 
I really hope that a future update supports the stereo bluetooth profile. I have a Plantronics Pulsar 590E Headset I'd like to use when/if the iPhone comes to Canada.
 
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