Um who told you the Pre didn't' sell out?
I'll tell you right now they didn't sell out. My local Sprint store got 9 and only sold 4 over the weekend.
Then get on Precentral.net cause there are plenty of people who can't find one.
Just incase you think i'm just making stuff up:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aO8w4SDammvs
Um who told you the Pre didn't' sell out?
That sucker can't be found anywhere and Palm is being criticized for not having enough phones at launch right now. (similar to the iPhone 2G launch).
Estimates are between 50k-100k...which is Sprints best opening weekend for a phone.
ANd why does everyone think Palm has to beat apple to "win".
What is there to win? They are reinventing their company and came out with a great v 1.0 device that will only get better.
People like Slappy get insulted when people say good things about the Pre so he feels the need to lash out and defend the iPhone....but these two can co-exist...much like RIM and Apple has been doing for the last 2 years.
Only 21% of the phones out there right now are smartphones....there is plenty of space out there for marketshare.
Yeah hold on to that link. It's already well known that Palm deliberately constrained supply to generate a false sense of demand. Stocking low guarantees cries of sold out. "yeah we had 10 and we're totally sold out" Look at the flagship stores. The lines were pathetic.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/06/palm-pre-goes-on-sale-nationwide-line-forms-on-the-right/
With the 3g coming at 99 bucks, the only thing the Pre can only claim 3rd party multitasking as its main selling point which on a 3 inch screen its not that relevant to must customers.
Dude they sold 50 000 in it's first weekend, that is pathetic for a phone hyped that much. They've been hyping it for 6 months.
A lot of those 50,000 units will be returned in the 30 day return period. I know- I had one and returned it and will happily keep my iphone 3G.
Frankly, the Pre is a piece of junk:
-Lousy battery life- several hours tops- and that's hardly using anything.
-Lousy keyboard (one article even has a fix where you put a paper clip under the battery so it won't get in the way of the slider).
-Can't use data and talk at the same time.
-No visual voicemail.
-Can't access exchange servers that require a pin- kills it for business users.
-Can't download music over 3G (Sprint won't allow it). Crashes a lot.
-Laggy.
-Cheapy plastic screen.
-Insufficient storage if you any meaningful music library.
-Sprint network awful.
I should have known better. Palm has never built good devices. My c-worker went through 5 Palm 700P's with Verizon, each of which was a lemon, and finally gave up. He'll never buy another palm again.
Um who told you the Pre didn't' sell out?
Sprint Press Release: thirteenth paragraph said:With the strong customer response to the launch of Pre, as expected, Sprint has sold out in many locations. Sprint is getting the device in to its retail locations as fast as Palm can make them.
Palm Inc.’s Pre sold out within hours at some stores after Sprint Nextel Corp. released the touch- screen phone yesterday, as pent up demand from months of waiting met with limited supplies.
I find it hysterical when someone insults Sprint and then goes back to AT&T.
EDIT: come to think of it...you're that dude on Precentral whining about the phone and trying to convince other people to return it.
ha...nevermind then.
I'm a 3G user that switched to the Pre this weekend and I'm really happy with it. It was really weird for me to use my friend's iPhone today, I'm too used to how intuitive cardview is. I also have not dropped a single call since Saturday, I used to drop a call or two per day on AT&T.
Different strokes for people, but this phone is going to be a success. How do you measure success? Does it sell enough units to turn a profit. The Pre will. It maybe no iPhone, but for me it's about $30 per month cheaper and I'm using a more reliable network. Oh, the Pre can't be compared to the Storm, that thing really is junk. If Apple's touchscreen is scored 100, the Pre is about a 98.
- My battery life is just fine. I get through the whole day with a fair amount of use.Frankly, the Pre is a piece of junk:
-Lousy battery life- several hours tops- and that's hardly using anything.
-Lousy keyboard (one article even has a fix where you put a paper clip under the battery so it won't get in the way of the slider).
-Can't use data and talk at the same time.
-No visual voicemail.
-Can't access exchange servers that require a pin- kills it for business users.
-Can't download music over 3G (Sprint won't allow it). Crashes a lot.
-Laggy.
-Cheapy plastic screen.
-Insufficient storage if you any meaningful music library.
-Sprint network awful.
Any questions? Let's face it. iPhone 3GS wins. The speed, the design, the applications, the camera, the video, the software, and more. The Palm Pre does not beat it.
I'm loving the irony here. For MONTHS now I've been reading posts on this forum saying that people can't claim a phone which no one's even used is better than another handset.
See where I'm going with this?
Truthfully, a lot of your "gripes" are personal preferences and not absolute-- and that's fine, you're entitled to your preferences. But there's no logic in the argument that "because the Pre does not meet my preferences" that "it's a piece of junk". The Pre is not junk to me at all, and I'm a big fan of Apple products.
- My battery life is just fine. I get through the whole day with a fair amount of use.
- keyboard works great for me, I still prefer it to virtual keyboards. Personal preference. I suppose I'm fortunate that my Pre has no issues with the battery not fitting right. Definitely a defect that should be replaced, but by no means universal.
- Visual voice mail? Not a deal breaker for me, and I'd be surprised if it didn't show up eventually (seeing as other Sprint phones do have it).
- Fair enough, but those users are not who Palm is targeting (Sprint actually has training on whether the Pre is right for someone or not)
- AT&T didn't allow music downloads over their cell network at first either. We'll see what happens (I think it's their loss by not allowing that).
- It is laggy sometimes. Not perfect by any means.
- Lots of things are made of plastic. Thus far the screen does not feel "cheap", to me, even if it's not glass.
- Actually I wish it had more storage too, but I didn't buy this to replace my iPod. My "meaningful library" would not even be served well by a 32gb iPhone-- though it does fit on a 160gb iPod Classic.
- the Sprint network is dandy where I am and faster than AT&T for data, not to mention less expensive.
I mentioned I have an iPod Touch. As far as phones go, I'm coming from a Treo 650 and then a Treo 755p. So you can see, from my perspective, how nice the Pre is to me-- PalmOS never felt very solid, and the Pre is a huge step forward for Palm. I think the iPhone is a great device. Just because I continue to be impressed by the Pre doesn't mean I think any less of the iPhone-- it still has strengths that the Pre does not.
I guess my point here is not to argue which phone is better, but to rather call a lot of people out on their attitudes and behavior-- you can highlight what you feel are the Pre's shortcomings and why you prefer AT&T / iPhone without resorting to hyperbole / sensationalism or name calling. That behavior only causes people to take you and your opinion less seriously. (I guess rational discussion isn't as fun as trying to prove your right and belittle others, huh?)
These are just phones. There's no prize for being right, and there's no prize for owning "the best phone". You just gotta use what works best for you and enjoy it. No one single product will be the best for every single consumer out there.
- know why it destroys pre... because i'm buying one?
I respect your views and appreciate them. 1) How is your reception? 2) Is your voiume on the headset and speakerphone loud?
Ahh there's room in the market for both. To suppose that Apple is the only company or brand that will ever have good third party software support... or that all the other platforms are at a standstill while Apple forges ahead... well let's just stop and think about that.All the other smartphone vendors still don't understand one thing. It's not the hardware, but the software. The "main" bit of software is NOT the OS (WinMo is probably better off in the crappy OS cemetery) but the 3rd party applications. I could have a 10MP autofocus camera with the best lens out there but it won't do much if it only takes stills and video. The iPhone can scan barcodes, do facial recognition, edit video, edit pictures with some cool effects. Palm came too little, too late. App Store has more than 8X the other "app store" equivalents combined.