why the iphone software 2.0 might have FLASH !!!!

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by alexh516, Jun 15, 2008.

  1. alexh516 macrumors member

    Jun 27, 2007
    remember in the wwdc 08 keynote when steve jobs shows a slide comparing 3g vs. edge vs. wifi speeds. He goes to the National Geographic website for a test on the iphone.
    Well, my friend and I noticed something very interesting...
    we went to that same website on our iphones and realized that the picture of the lion says "This presentation requires flash. Download the free flash player"
    well on the iphone in the keynote... the page does not ask to download the player! as if it already has it

    Check it out yourself.
    Did steve jobs change the image displayed to the audience or was adobe flash already installed in the new iphone update?
  2. aethelbert macrumors 601

    Jun 1, 2007
    Chicago, IL, USA
    It wouldn't take much effort to just edit that part out.
  3. ZiRo macrumors newbie

    Feb 24, 2008
  4. admanimal macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2005
    Yeah I would bet that they didn't want to remind everyone that flash isn't supported, so they just edited it out.
  5. kdarling macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    Already debunked. Easy to do so yourself.

    If you go there with a Flash-enabled device, you don't see a cheetah at all... you see a whole bunch of other animals and menus.

    If you go there with mobile Safari, you see a cheetah with "flash is needed" sign.

    In the WWDC presentation, there's a cheetah with no text. Therefore the presentation was touched up to delete the Flash reference.

    Apple did the same web page cheat back when they used the NY Times in an ad. Just another case of them pretending that they're showing "the real internet".
  6. grndslm macrumors member

    Jun 15, 2008
    HAHA, I love it... they definitely think they're the first with the "real internet", but they don't have Flash support. Definitely isn't the real deal unless you've got Flash support.
  7. DreamPod macrumors 65816


    Mar 15, 2008
    Don't forget that as recent as March 5, Steve Jobs said that the desktop version of Flash runs too slowly on the iPhone, the cellphone version of Flash isn’t functional enough, and there is no middle ground. So unless since then Adobe has been working on a fast version of Flash that doesn't use up much CPU (and thus battery) power, and is a lot more fully-featured than Flash Lite, don't expect Flash on the iPhone anytime soon.
  8. grndslm macrumors member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Nokia N800/810 both have 400MHz ARM processors that can handle Flash. What reason is there that the iPhone's 620MHz ARM processor can't handle it??

    I think Apple just doesn't care to fix it. Or they don't care to pay licensing fees to Adobe (Does Adobe charge licensing fees for Flash per device?).
  9. DreamPod macrumors 65816


    Mar 15, 2008
    No, those Nokia processors handle "Flash Lite", which Steve Jobs thinks isn't useful enough. Flash Lite, for example, can't handle YouTube or Flash Games - it's pretty much all about simple flash animations.
  10. grndslm macrumors member

    Jun 15, 2008
    Taken from http://aralbalkan.com/1000 ...

    Whatever Flash Lite is... the Nokia N800 has a slower processor AND 2.5x many pixels to deal with, so it doesn't seem like Apple should have any excuses. Maybe every Flash application won't work, but YouTube works just fine as long as you upgrade to the newer OS. The Nokia delivers "real internet" in your pocket (No need for a special YouTube app), and Apple's still gettin' there.
  11. frosse macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2007
    Someone said that Flash Lite couldnt manage flash games, whatever, all I want is working flash sites. :(
  12. ruinfx macrumors 6502a

    Feb 20, 2008
    educate yourself before you post. you can view the real youtube site and watch youtube videos with flash lite 3 in the browser on nokia smartphones like the n95.

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