I think MS would make a killer move by finding out a way to boot and install Win 8 directly on a Mac, and Win 8RT on a iPad or iPhone. Despite the iMac, Apple is still very good on the hardware department. But the OSX roadmap.... I don't know. It is good to see the AAPL dropped 100$ last month.
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Why the new iMac sucks so much!
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I think MS would make a killer move by finding out a way to boot and install Win 8 directly on a Mac, and Win 8RT on a iPad or iPhone. Despite the iMac, Apple is still very good on the hardware department. But the OSX roadmap.... I don't know. It is good to see the AAPL dropped 100$ last month.
Really, you're not simply being naive or trying to be outrageous? Wow, at least you've been brave enough to give us some insight. Perhaps Apple do know their market after all?
WTF are you talking about? You can get an i7 in the 21.5 and 27 models.
For the 21.5":
2.9GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz) with 6MB L3 cache
Configurable to 3.1GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz).
For the 27":
3.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz) with 6MB L3 cache
Configurable to 3.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz).
This is from the tech specs page.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac
The think that I truly love about the new crop of win 8 machines is the touch screen. I spent about an hour flogging the machines and it quickly became apparent that touch was going to be a significant input device...
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Here ya go...
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...s&cs=ussoho1&l=en&sku=225-4015&~ck=dellSearch
Not the imaginary 27 inch yellow tint and smudge issue. Two of my friends reckoned their Macs had this after reading about it yet no one else including me could see it.
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Think you're missing the point completely. I'm not saying the display isn't great because it clearly is, the point is the price of manufacture has fallen significantly but the Apple consumer is not seeing the benefit.
are you people stupid or something? Thanks for proving my point. A decent quality i5/i7 is gonna cost you roughly $1000, now add that 27" IPS you have a Windows PC for $1800.
And the iMac is overpriced how????
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The only things that are dropping in price are compromised small size IPS panels, while large, high quality panels are still the same price... I don't think you got my point.
The horror!!! who doesn't use native DSP? virtual instruments? no one? please?
who are you calling delusional kiddo? also your track count is way off.
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You're right
mmm yah but 1800$ with all the rings and bells you can get... you have the 21" base with i5 + fusion drive + super-drive at 1630$ (already) on the other hand, so there's a difference.... , personally I don't know what the heck is doing such a "prosumer" monitor in a "consumer" oriented machine..... it's kind of ironic how people contradict themselves over and over to justify Apple lacks
Seriously, WTH are you talking about. $1900 gets you the 27".
What bells and whistles DON'T you get? CD-Rom probably. I can buy an external one for $30 at staples if i really needed one. If i want more usb ports, i can get one of those too for $10.
WHY ARE YOU BUYING THE SUPERDRIVE IF YOU THINK APPLE THINGS ARE OVERPRICED? Jesus !@#*()! christ. Either you're just arguing for the sake arguing, or you are completely incompetent when it comes down to buying a piece of technology according to your own budget/needs.
i can't believe we just spent 7 pages on educating you that the iMac does indeed allow BTO for i7... I'm done here with you.
We're talking about base prices/my needs man, for instance I'd need the superdrive and there's no way in hell I'm going 5400 rpm so the fusion is also a must, that's 1630$ right on the spot without any CPU BTO.
With 1000$ you get an i7 IVB 3770K, Gygabyte Z77 with TB, BT and WiFi, 120GB ssd for OS and crap, 1 TB SATA III, 16 Gigs RAM, 2GB GGR5 FAST GPU, PSU, CASE, Optical bay, mouse and keyboard. That alone is almost the best config you could get from any iMac.
I didn't deny the BTO's as I even changed my first post to state i7 should be base in all the models. No more tuition needed bro
Actually, almost everything he said was a complete lie.
Soldered ram? Lie.
Fewer USB ports? Lie.
He "expected" blu-ray in an iMac? Lie.
And when was this NOT the case for an iMac? It was like this for every single iMac ever released. If the you want the best rig you can put together, you're looking to spend $300-400 more than a windows PC because its an all in one and its an iMac.
Feels like im arguing with a windows fanboy more than a new iMac complainer. Why are you even on the mac forums?
Ha ha.
Windows 8 is almost universally seen as a total disaster, eclipsing even Windows Vista. The launch was a total dud and it's getting bad reviews left and right. It's a mess of an OS. A frankenOS bolted together with no polish whatsoever. Have fun using that in your business.
Comparing Windows 8 to Mountain Lion is like comparing ice cream to dog ****. Windows 8 is what finally caused me to break from Windows forever so I can use an actual desktop operating system, not a system designed for tablets that was bolted together onto windows 7.
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The new imacs completely obliterate the 2011 versions in every way imaginable, so I'm not sure what you are crying about.
You obviously haven't had the benefit of reading the trade mags or listened to what's going on in the industry generally with over capacity and squeezed margins. Do your homework then come back to me and we can talk again.
The black smudging issue alas is not imagined, my 2009 iMac had it and had the screen replaced, my 2011 iMac as just had a new screen and two iMacs at my work have had new screens and my father-in-laws 2009 iMac has the issue. Tellingly when I took my 2011 iMac in for repair they didn't even bother switching it on to check, just booked it in for screen replacement. Hope they have sorted the issue on this revision but don't hold your breath as the front lamination may or may not help.
I think you've been eating to many apples
fixed RAM 5400 drives, no upgradability. Why does shaving a few millimetres of the thickness matter, or reducing the weight slightly, it's a Desktop for goodness sake, not a mobile device. Is there anything Apple could do that would make people like you balk or do you swallow whatever they feed you?BTW, you show yourself up with the ill informed rant about W8. You do realise that Apple are trying to provide an iOS look and feel with ML don't you?
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I think you've been eating to many apples
BTW, you show yourself up with the ill informed rant about W8. You do realise that Apple are trying to provide an iOS look and feel with ML don't you?
I don't even own a single apple product at the moment, so nice try. I'm just being honest when I say that Windows 8 is a complete farce for the desktop. It's already a flop and people will avoid it the same way they did Vista (which wasn't even all that bad). Windows 8 is truly horrible. It might be OK for tablet toys, but its a farce for PCs.
To be honest, I don't even know what you are crying about. The 2012 is light years ahead of the 2011. Are you a 2011 owner that is pissed because his iMac is now out of date? Similar to the angry iPad 3 owners? Otherwise, I really don't understand why you are crying so much.
It's also quite telling that you have to resort to half-truths or flat out lies to come down on the new iMac. First of all, the ram is not fixed in the 27". You can upgrade it as easy as ever. Let me guess, "there are less USB ports" and you were "expecting blu-ray", right?
Secondly, the iMac is, was, and always will be an all-in-one. It's not just a regular "desktop". The fact that it was small/saved space was always the key feature of the computer. It's kinda the whole point of an all-in-one. If you are expecting an iMac to be the size of a microwave oven or a mini fridge, you need to give your head a shake.
Thirdly, the 2012 iMac blows the 2011 out of the water:
- USB 3.0
- Twice as much ram standard
- Twice as large HDD standard
- Newer, faster processors
- Newer, better video cards
- Better, less reflective screen
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Oh, I most certainly have. It sucks so hard that I'm leaving windows all together and never looking back.
Looking for a comparable AIO on the web from the likes of HP. They seemed to be specced at a lower level than the 2012 iMac for more or less the same money.
HP Z1:http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/workstations/product-detail.html?oid=5263675
2012 iMac: http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac
Other than the slightly higher clock rate of the Z1, not sure if sandy bridges are better as they are newer though?
HP Z1:http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/workstations/product-detail.html?oid=5263675
2012 iMac: http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac
Other than the slightly higher clock rate of the Z1, not sure if sandy bridges are better as they are newer though?
Goodness knows how old you are but you come across as incredibly immature. You don't even own an iMac and yet here you are extolling their virtues. I don't see my 2011 base iMac as being out of date in the slightest, I've yet to see it break sweat. The RAM is fixed in the comparable model to mine hence why I quoted it. The base 2011 is the better value machine.
You show the same non existant knowledge of the Windows environment too. I shall not trouble myself to converse with you further as I see little value in doing so.
I would say that the 2012 iMac blows the 2011 out of the water is some what overstating it. It's a respectable revision (albeit a little late in the life cycle of Ivy Bridge) and the additions are welcome but apart from the the option of the 680MX GPU there is genuinely nothing it offers that makes me want one. There is always something bigger and better for each revision but every iMac in the last eight years or so has had there own inherent issues (mine included) so it will be interesting to see what this "Rev A" one suffers from.