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Why THIS OS will be the LAST

Do you think the next OS will be the last?

  • YES

    Votes: 16 40.0%

  • NO

    Votes: 10 25.0%

  • MAYBE

    Votes: 12 30.0%

  • I'VE MOVED ON to another mac

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I'VE MOVED ON to another platform

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
adam9c1

adam9c1

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Why THIS new OS will be the last for the cMP?


Personally, at some point Apple realized the nMP did not take off and was a failure. (I do remember seeing it at my local store sort of shoved in a corner and then later it was gone)

I think Apple is aware of the fact that there are still many cMP users out there and they are looking at how the iMac Pro is doing.
Now they are scrambling for a Pro machine and once that is out, that will be the end of the road for the cMP.
 
adam9c1 said:
Why THIS new OS will be the last for the cMP?


Personally, at some point Apple realized the nMP did not take off and was a failure. (I do remember seeing it at my local store sort of shoved in a corner and then later it was gone)

I think Apple is aware of the fact that there are still many cMP users out there and they are looking at how the iMac Pro is doing.
Now they are scrambling for a Pro machine and once that is out, that will be the end of the road for the cMP.
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Should be. The CPU will/is too slow to meet Pro needs. A Pro should always be upgrading and having the modular and upgradable form back will allow that.
 
If next year is an evolutionary release (such as El Capitan, High Sierra and this year's iOS 12 on the iOS side) then it's quite possible Apple will give the 5,1 yet another reprieve. And there would be some justification for doing so, since the 2012 5,1 was sold up until December 2013 when the nMP was released (so would still be within the ~7 year window in which Apple generally offers new OS compatibility).

So I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Edit: It may also depend somewhat on how the Mojave rollout goes. It would be sort of crappy to make 5,1 users go out and drop $200+ on a new metal capable GPU only to leave them high and dry a year later.
 
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It'll be close. I think they'll want to have the new Mac Pro announced before they drop the cMP. If they get the new Mac Pro announced next WWDC at the same time as the next macOS, they might do it.

At the same time, now that they've required Metal, not a huge reason to drop it either. Metal was the big transition in the operating system as they dropped their use of OpenGL internally.
 
Not very interesting to start fretting about this already. Take some time to be happy with what we are getting
 
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frou said:
Not very interesting to start fretting about this already. Take some time to be happy with what we are getting
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Plus, even if this is the last supported macOS, that still gives years of security updates. That doesn't even consider the unsupported macOS configs that will no doubt appear the moment a version comes out that drops MacPro5,1.

I do have to laugh that this thing is even in the same multi-core ballpark as an iMac Pro that I could pay £4.5k for today and wipes the floor with it for GPU tasks because I put a GTX 1080 Ti inside it. And it has CUDA. And a 1500MB/s NVME drive (which I might even be able to boot from soon). Plus, a heap of storage on the internal bays, four 1080p60 HDMI capture inputs, USB-C - all in one box with no dongles! :'D
 
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adam9c1 said:
Why THIS new OS will be the last for the cMP?


Personally, at some point Apple realized the nMP did not take off and was a failure. (I do remember seeing it at my local store sort of shoved in a corner and then later it was gone)

I think Apple is aware of the fact that there are still many cMP users out there and they are looking at how the iMac Pro is doing.
Now they are scrambling for a Pro machine and once that is out, that will be the end of the road for the cMP.
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As of now, Mavericks is the last OSX for me .
I'd rather be using Snow Leo , but one has to stay current . ;)

OSX had a good run, but it has become too much hassle to adjust my workflow to new versions and find workarounds for existing programs and 3rd party hardware in recent years .
Used to be one just had to find a few updated drivers and such, maybe drop the most ancient app or two .

Nowadays you have jump through countless hoops to get a customized OSX back to where you want it ; and with every update, you will lose a lot of backwards compatibility .

For me , the question is not if the cMP is supported by the latest OSX, but if there will ever be a new Mac that runs older OSX versions . And if those versions will be supported and updated to at least a minor degree, such as drivers, firmware, ... Safari .

Obviously the answer to that is no at this point .
 
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barmann said:
Nowadays you have jump through countless hoops to get a customized OSX back to where you want it ; and with every update, you will lose a lot of backwards compatibility .

For me , the question is not if the cMP is supported by the latest OSX, but if there will ever be a new Mac that runs older OSX versions . And if those versions will be supported and updated to at least a minor degree, such as drivers, firmware, ... Safari .
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A new Mac that runs older software? HAHAHA! Respectfully, you must not pay attention to Apple's entire philosophy. They remove legacy hardware/software functionality when it suits them. They don't often try to build workarounds for older OS's or software. Everything is about progress, or calling their changes progress. I'm struggling to remember an incident where Apple made (what seemed like) an effort to continue anything legacy (and I've been a Mac user for 22 years now).

If you've got some setup that works, just keep it frozen in time and keep using it for the work you do.
 
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adam9c1 said:
Why THIS new OS will be the last for the cMP?


Personally, at some point Apple realized the nMP did not take off and was a failure. (I do remember seeing it at my local store sort of shoved in a corner and then later it was gone)

I think Apple is aware of the fact that there are still many cMP users out there and they are looking at how the iMac Pro is doing.
Now they are scrambling for a Pro machine and once that is out, that will be the end of the road for the cMP.
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My prediction was that it would be stuck on High Sierra for the rest of its official lifespan. But boy was I wrong, seems like they’re just trying to keep us cMP users holding on to Mojave while we wait for the 2019 Mac Pro, before we switch to a different platform. But yeah, this’ll probably be it’s last update, the low end cpu’s In the 4,1 flashed to 5,1 and the low end 5,1 cpus aren’t really powerful enough to keep going through these updates.
 
barmann said:
Nowadays you have jump through countless hoops to get a customized OSX back to where you want it ; and with every update, you will lose a lot of backwards compatibility .
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I had to join the same circus but took the juggling route instead of the hoops of fire!
With the combination below all things HW and SW work.

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