Why use Firefox?

[pulsewidth947]

Does Camino allow you to start from where you left off, like Opera does? For example, you are browsing with say 6 tabs open. Apple+Q by accident/program crashes. When you start up Camino does it give you the open to reload open pages?

 

[shadowmoses]

I find Firefox for Mac to be way overhyped, it is an ugly, unstable browser the only thing it has going for it are the extensions....

Safari and Camino are the two best browsers in my experience, I use Safari primarily and Camino when needed and they do a fine job, I actually fins Safari 2.0 to be a very fast and stable browser which looks great

SHadOW 😉

 

[DarkNetworks]

Reason to use Firefox is, it's a free alternative browser and it works...

 

[nsheikh80]

Wow. This thread seems to have generated quite a stir.

During my Windoze days I used to love using Firefox; I had been using it since 0.3 and had about 16 extensions installed but I manage to switch to Camino no problems at all. I'm sure they will have extension eventually but I don't see this as a huge problem right now.

In all honesty, I would use Safari as my main browser but the only thing I can't get it to do is stop logging all the web pages i visit in the address bar. Anyone else know how to do this?

 

[devilot]

Ooh, I just downloaded Camino and I'm using it as I type-- it is so fast! Way way way faster than Safari and a bit faster than Firefox. I'm trashing Firefox as I type.😛 So far, the user interface is how other posters said it would be like... a bit more like Safari and OS X but not quite there, so more Safari-ish than Firefox. I think I could get used to this.

 

[iMeowbot]

I find Firefox for Mac to be way overhyped, it is an ugly, unstable browser the only thing it has going for it are the extensions....

The proudest achievement in Firefox is that its extension capability finally brought spyware to OS X. Google do kind of spoil it by telling you up front that they'll be watching you if you use their pagerank feature, but it's a fine start nonetheless!

 

[mkrishnan]

In all honesty, I would use Safari as my main browser but the only thing I can't get it to do is stop logging all the web pages i visit in the address bar. Anyone else know how to do this?

I couldn't find the original thread, but yes, there is a way:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/121779/

When you do this, you will still have a history, as long as Safari remains open, but it will not be used to auto-complete, and will not persist if Safari is closed. There is no way, AFAIK, to stop Safari from auto-completing from bookmarks, however; that will still happen even with this change.

 

[dops7107]

I find Firefox for Mac to be way overhyped, it is an ugly, unstable browser the only thing it has going for it are the extensions....

I'm lost. Everyone's banging on about extensions. Can anyone explain to me what extensions are and why it's so good that Firefox supports them? I've just discovered Camino today and I'm not on my Mac at the min so I can't try it out, but I'm keen to give it a go over Firefox. Just for fun, as it were.

 

[0098386]

I use Safari and have found absolutely no reason to use any other browser. everything works 100%, not a single problem. sure it hangs on my system, but the whole computer has been freezing recently so its probably an effect of that.

on my Windows system I use IE. I have firewalls and virus scanners (what Windows system doesn't?) so i have no need for anything other than IE. it works 100% too.

if everything is perfect why change?

 

[broken_keyboard]

Firefox is evil, that's why it is called "fire."
The devil has commented the source code. His favorite bit is PNG. Don't listen to the nerds who tell you to use it - they are not your friend. They have a secret sneer on their faces. Their deepest souls tell them to delete but they ignore it.

 

[zap2]

I find Firefox for Mac to be way overhyped, it is an ugly, unstable browser the only thing it has going for it are the extensions....

Safari and Camino are the two best browsers in my experience, I use Safari primarily and Camino when needed and they do a fine job, I actually fins Safari 2.0 to be a very fast and stable browser which looks great

SHadOW 😉

YOu can not say Camino is bester the firefox, Camino has what it takes to be as good but is not as stable as firefox now( and i like firefoxs looks better)

 

[stridey]

Thanks. I guess I'll keep watching until they get to RCs. BTW, have they fixed the slow textbox on pages with animated GIFs (or something like that) issue that makes textboxes crawl on some forum pages? I know this was on the 0.9 known issue list.

Bit late on the response, but yes, as of the .9alpha2 they have fixed that issue (thank heavens).

 

[iindigo]

YOu can not say Camino is bester the firefox, Camino has what it takes to be as good but is not as stable as firefox now( and i like firefoxs looks better)

"bester"? what kind of word is that?

And Camino, in my experience, has been more stable than Firefox and definitely better looking. Anyone that says Firefox for Mac looks good should be put through Mac GUI school and learn what a proper Mac application should look like.

 

[mkrishnan]

Bit late on the response, but yes, as of the .9alpha2 they have fixed that issue (thank heavens).

Thanks! 🙂 I'll check it out! 🙂

 

[baummer]

For me, I use Firefox because it's stable. Camino always crashes or freezes on me. Not to mention the lack of extensions, in addition to it being primarily a beta (at least it feels like it). Firefox for me.

 

[bousozoku]

I haven't found a single browser to do it all but Firefox does most of it. I like Camino but it doesn't work a lot. Safari usually works but is ugly so I use Shiira instead, since it uses the same frameworks that Apple provides.

 

[stridey]

I haven't found a single browser to do it all but Firefox does most of it. I like Camino but it doesn't work a lot. Safari usually works but is ugly so I use Shiira instead, since it uses the same frameworks that Apple provides.

Out of curiosity, are the people who find that "Camino doesn't work" or "Camino feels unfinished" using the last release (.84), one of the .9 alphas, or a nightly build?

 

[mkrishnan]

Stridey, I had been trying the alphas; I just tried a nightly. It still seems to have issues with text-boxes on certain pages. I tried writing a response in another forum in Camino and it was so painful that I closed it without even bothering to copy out the three-quarters of a sentence I had typed, and finished in Safari. 🙁

Oh, and in terms of unfinished, I am waiting for two things:
1) Spell-as-you-type, which is still on the 0.9 roadmap, and as far as I can tell not yet implemented
2) A fix for the above.

I know several people mentioned that the text-box thing is a known issue. Since you thought it was fixed already, any chance you have a link to a thread in their development area, so I can provide an example link of a page on which the textbox entry is still unusable? I would be more than happy to do that, to help them out just a tiny bit. 🙂

 

[stridey]

Stridey, I had been trying the alphas; I just tried a nightly. It still seems to have issues with text-boxes on certain pages. I tried writing a response in another forum in Camino and it was so painful that I closed it without even bothering to copy out the three-quarters of a sentence I had typed, and finished in Safari. 🙁

Oh, and in terms of unfinished, I am waiting for two things:
1) Spell-as-you-type, which is still on the 0.9 roadmap, and as far as I can tell not yet implemented
2) A fix for the above.

I know several people mentioned that the text-box thing is a known issue. Since you thought it was fixed already, any chance you have a link to a thread in their development area, so I can provide an example link of a page on which the textbox entry is still unusable? I would be more than happy to do that, to help them out just a tiny bit. 🙂

Ok. After digging through Camino's forums some and looking through the bug pages, it seems "fixed" is a relative term. The official slow text-entry bug here has been marked fixed, but the general concensus seems to be that it's simply "better" and not "good." Interesting...

Edit: Useful thread in the forums about the bug can be found here

 

[Chef Medeski]

As a recent switcher, I will explain my story. Firefox is the OS X equivalent of the web browsers. When I downloaded it it added new features, easier functions, and better securtiy than IE. It is just like my recent switch over to a mac.

When i switched I downloaded it for one reason. I was familiar. I had already had to learn so mcuh in an Apple, that the knowing all the Hot keys in Firefox seemed like a godsend when I couldn't even Create a new message in Mail with the keyboard. It was just my memory of the product that kept me to it. However, I have noticed soem nice features in Safari, but it is so hard to use Safari since I'm accustumed to Firefox. I mean Ctrl-2 doesn't look at my 2nd tab, but Ebay.

I'm going to try Camino, it seems like it adds all the Postiives of Safari and Firefox into one beta package.

 

[NEENAHBOY]

Personally, I don't understand the whole concept behind extensions and whatnot in Firefox. Seems to me like they just add an unnecessary headache to the browsing process.

 

[Lazyhound]

Seems to me like they just add an unnecessary headache to the browsing process.

Not really, given that you can just ignore them if they don't interest you.

Agreed. Firefox feels *very* un-OS X-like. From what I hear, for the next version theyre working to make it more native-like.

They aren't. The point is to maintain a consistent feel across all platforms. If you want it to blend in better, try one of the OSX-ish themes. If you want something that uses the native API for the GUI, try Camino for OSX, Galleon/Epiphany for Linux, or K-Meleon for Windows.

 

[bousozoku]

Out of curiosity, are the people who find that "Camino doesn't work" or "Camino feels unfinished" using the last release (.84), one of the .9 alphas, or a nightly build?

I've been using it since version 0.5 and currently have 0.8.4 and it's great where it works but there are a lot of pages where it locks up or gives unusual renderings. It's nice that they integrated native buttons but I'd rather have accurate rendering and I'm not going to try a nightly build to get that--if it's even possible.

 

[Flying Llama]

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The RSS handling in 2 alone is worth the switch back. 🙂
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Actually, the latest DeerPark (Firefox) nightlies have built-in RSS support similar to Safari. 🙂



llama 😀