Other Why wait for a 14?

[Kay_Ess]

Hello!

I've been considering buying an iPhone. Because the 14 is supposed to come out soon I've been looking at rumors and ended up here.

The rumors say the 14 will not get USB-C, will not get a 120 Hz display, will not get an always on display and will not get a major design overhaul. But the 14 might be more expensive than the 13 was on launch. So it will cost at least €900 and might even be €1000. Whereas the 13 is now for sale for €700. Is there a reason one should wait for a 14 instead of buying a 13? A slightly better camera has to make up for a €200-300 price difference?

If I have the money for a 14, why shouldn't I buy a 13 Pro instead? It's got a 120 Hz display so in daily use it'll be a nicer device to use, right? And the cameras of the 13 Pro are probably better than the cameras of the 14, right? I'm assuming the latter because if the cameras of the 14 are better than the cameras of the 13 Pro it would hurt the second hand value of iPhones and thereby eat up a chunk of the market for future models.

Am I missing something? Can I expect a "next big thing" or is the 14 only intended for the most hardcore of fans?

Hope you have a great weekend!
K.

 

[Brad7]

Yes, I’d say your logic is sound. The only thing I’d suggest is to wait for the 14 launch because the 13 Pro’s prices will then further drop across the market.

 

[throAU]

I'm in the same boat. I'm waiting for the 14 to drop to see what it comes with but also for the expected price drop on the 13 and the 12 slipping off the market (i.e., I'm planning to buy a 13 - maybe even a mini - for 12 price).

I'm also keen to see the battery life improvements on the 14. Performance for iPhone at this point is plenty, but more battery life would always be nice.

 

[sjperformance]

I always say this. If you got the money. If you want the latest and greatest then go for the 14 pro. Now if you are on a budget then go with the previous gen as when new ones are announced prices come down a bit on those. In the end is how much you willing to spend in order to get the features you desire.

 

[KOTN91]

I’m my opinion, I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a new iPhone that’s already 1 generation old. You’re already spending a lot of money, just to be 1 generation behind from day 1. I would always go with the latest over the previous gen pro. This year it might make sense to pony up a bit more for the 14 pro

 

[KOTN91]

I’m my opinion, I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a new iPhone that’s already 1 generation old. You’re already spending a lot of money, just to be 1 generation behind from day 1. I would always go with the latest over the previous gen pro. This year it might make sense to pony up a bit more for the 14 pro over the standard 14. But no way would I spend the thick end of a grand just to have a 13 of any variant now it’s a year old

 

[3Rock]

Hello!

I've been considering buying an iPhone. Because the 14 is supposed to come out soon I've been looking at rumors and ended up here.

The rumors say the 14 will not get USB-C, will not get a 120 Hz display, will not get an always on display and will not get a major design overhaul. But the 14 might be more expensive than the 13 was on launch. So it will cost at least €900 and might even be €1000. Whereas the 13 is now for sale for €700. Is there a reason one should wait for a 14 instead of buying a 13? A slightly better camera has to make up for a €200-300 price difference?

K.

For the Pro Model, actually, it has been rumored that the iPhone 14 will probably have always on display. Not sure for the regular 14 non-pro.

 

[Jackbequickly]

This comes up every time they introduce a new iPhone. Wait for the 14 or save some money and get the 13 now. Much is up to the buyer and how much expendable money one has. The 14 is not going to be a huge upgrade so . . . .

 

[sjperformance]

This comes up every time they introduce a new iPhone. Wait for the 14 or save some money and get the 13 now. Much is up to the buyer and how much expendable money one has. The 14 is not going to be a huge upgrade so . . . .

Yup every year same questions and same answers. Like people should know this already.

 

[Kay_Ess]

Yes, I’d say your logic is sound. The only thing I’d suggest is to wait for the 14 launch because the 13 Pro’s prices will then further drop across the market.

Thanks. I can do that. They won't run out of 13s to push me to a 14 anway?

I'm in the same boat. I'm waiting for the 14 to drop to see what it comes with but also for the expected price drop on the 13 and the 12 slipping off the market (i.e., I'm planning to buy a 13 - maybe even a mini - for 12 price).

I'm also keen to see the battery life improvements on the 14. Performance for iPhone at this point is plenty, but more battery life would always be nice.

A little more battery life would be certainly be nice.

I always say this. If you got the money. If you want the latest and greatest then go for the 14 pro. Now if you are on a budget then go with the previous gen as when new ones are announced prices come down a bit on those. In the end is how much you willing to spend in order to get the features you desire.

Thanks. For me a phone is more of a tool than a status symbol so I definitely don't need the latest and greatest.

I’m my opinion, I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a new iPhone that’s already 1 generation old. You’re already spending a lot of money, just to be 1 generation behind from day 1. I would always go with the latest over the previous gen pro. This year it might make sense to pony up a bit more for the 14 pro over the standard 14. But no way would I spend the thick end of a grand just to have a 13 of any variant now it’s a year old

Nice try, Apple
Just kidding. But that is exactly why Apple has handicapped the 'regular' models and added a Pro line; that is consumerism at its finest and not a sentiment brought on by rationality. Because the 13 isn't what you could expect of a €700 phone you look at the €1050 13 Pro and because you're now spending more anyway but still don't get the complete package you're looking at the €1250 14 Pro.
I do understand your point and I can't say I'm not vulnerable to it but to me it seems like that logic could better be used to steer to a second hand 13 / 13 Pro instead of a new 14 Pro.

For the Pro Model, actually, it has been rumored that the iPhone 14 will probably have always on display. Not sure for the regular 14 non-pro.

Yes, I've read that too. I think the rumor is that the 14 will get a 60 Hz display and the 14 Pro an adaptive display that does 1 Hz for always on and 120 Hz for browsing. I've had always on displays for 10 years already so it would absolutely suck to have to go without, but I personally can't really justify the €200 difference to a 13 Pro for just that one simple function. If my current phone wasn't failing me already I'd definitely have waited another 1-2 years until the iPhones are up to standards but unfortunately I doubt my phone will last until the end of the year.

This comes up every time they introduce a new iPhone. Wait for the 14 or save some money and get the 13 now. Much is up to the buyer and how much expendable money one has. The 14 is not going to be a huge upgrade so . . . .

Thanks. I can imagine that's true. But since I would be new to iPhone (well, I did have the 3G so technically I'm returning to the Apple camp ) I was thinking/hoping I was missing something. But you're probably right: I have to look at it as expendable money in order to hold the newest phone instead of expecting to get something that would make up the price difference.

Thanks all!
I'll try to hold out until the launch to see whether the rumors are wrong and the regular 14 also gets a 120 Hz and always on display and if it doesn't I'll go for the 13 or 13 Pro.

 

[Kay_Ess]

Yup every year same questions and same answers. Like people should know this already.

Perhaps, but when I look at your signature I have the feeling you know way more about the differences between models and the way Apple designs models than I do. That's why a forum is so nice: here we can all talk it through. A newb like me could easily have missed something.
Thanks for your time!

 

[eyoungren]

I’m my opinion, I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a new iPhone that’s already 1 generation old. You’re already spending a lot of money, just to be 1 generation behind from day 1. I would always go with the latest over the previous gen pro. This year it might make sense to pony up a bit more for the 14 pro over the standard 14. But no way would I spend the thick end of a grand just to have a 13 of any variant now it’s a year old

It just depends on what you need, or want in my case.

I bought the 11 Pro Max several months after the launch of the 12 series. I didn't see anything in the 12 Pro Max that I needed or wanted more than what was in the 11 Pro Max. Additionally, I was a network guinea pig for Sprint when they launched LTE and I do not care to repeat the experience with T-Mobile as they continue to expand 5G. The 11PM is an LTE only phone so I'm sitting on a mature and capable network and not watching my phone wig out over immature 5G signal/coverage.

Additionally, what I wanted was the max capacity Apple offers. I want that any time I buy a new iPhone. But I was not willing to pay the difference in price between the 512GB 11 Pro Max and the 512GB Pro Max.

But you know, take this with a grain of salt. I'm typing this message on a 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 (converted to 5,1) running Mojave, which of all my Macs is the youngest I own.

 

[CrazyForCashews]

Why wait for the 14 when you can just wait for the 15? But then the 16 is just around the corner, and by then who knows where you'll be.

 

[sjperformance]

Perhaps, but when I look at your signature I have the feeling you know way more about the differences between models and the way Apple designs models than I do. That's why a forum is so nice: here we can all talk it through. A newb like me could easily have missed something.
Thanks for your time!

You are right. My apologies. Hope we can help.

 

[Fatus_Asticus]

Wait for the 14 to launch and then pick up a 13 pro or pro max at a heavy discount on the used market as everyone dumps their one year old iPhone at the same time.

 

[sjperformance]

Thanks. I can do that. They won't run out of 13s to push me to a 14 anway?

A little more battery life would be certainly be nice.

Thanks. For me a phone is more of a tool than a status symbol so I definitely don't need the latest and greatest.

Nice try, Apple
Just kidding. But that is exactly why Apple has handicapped the 'regular' models and added a Pro line; that is consumerism at its finest and not a sentiment brought on by rationality. Because the 13 isn't what you could expect of a €700 phone you look at the €1050 13 Pro and because you're now spending more anyway but still don't get the complete package you're looking at the €1250 14 Pro.
I do understand your point and I can't say I'm not vulnerable to it but to me it seems like that logic could better be used to steer to a second hand 13 / 13 Pro instead of a new 14 Pro.

Yes, I've read that too. I think the rumor is that the 14 will get a 60 Hz display and the 14 Pro an adaptive display that does 1 Hz for always on and 120 Hz for browsing. I've had always on displays for 10 years already so it would absolutely suck to have to go without, but I personally can't really justify the €200 difference to a 13 Pro for just that one simple function. If my current phone wasn't failing me already I'd definitely have waited another 1-2 years until the iPhones are up to standards but unfortunately I doubt my phone will last until the end of the year.

Thanks. I can imagine that's true. But since I would be new to iPhone (well, I did have the 3G so technically I'm returning to the Apple camp ) I was thinking/hoping I was missing something. But you're probably right: I have to look at it as expendable money in order to hold the newest phone instead of expecting to get something that would make up the price difference.

Thanks all!
I'll try to hold out until the launch to see whether the rumors are wrong and the regular 14 also gets a 120 Hz and always on display and if it doesn't I'll go for the 13 or 13 Pro.

I like the latest and greatest and I could care less what people think of my phone. I don’t even tell people hey look I got the new iPhone. If I can afford to fund my hobby and love for technology then I do it. That’s why I love AUP. I change my devices yearly. I also lease a new car/suv every 3 years. Believe me there’s different ways I can show the world my current status. BTW I use my phone for personal and run my business. Emails. Calls. Texts. I mostly do a lot of work stuff on it. Big screens. Big good battery life. Fast. Important to me.

 

[F-Train]

@Kay_Ess,

If you decide to opt for an iPhone 13, see what Apple is offering refurbished. I want to stress that I mean what Apple itself is offering, not a third party. You'll save some additional money, and Apple sells refurbished phones that are in top condition with a full warranty.

 

[tranceking26]

There's not long to wait, then you can see what the 14 series has to offer.

 

[Mark Stone]

Hello!

I've been considering buying an iPhone. Because the 14 is supposed to come out soon I've been looking at rumors and ended up here.

The rumors say the 14 will not get USB-C, will not get a 120 Hz display, will not get an always on display and will not get a major design overhaul. But the 14 might be more expensive than the 13 was on launch. So it will cost at least €900 and might even be €1000. Whereas the 13 is now for sale for €700. Is there a reason one should wait for a 14 instead of buying a 13? A slightly better camera has to make up for a €200-300 price difference?

If I have the money for a 14, why shouldn't I buy a 13 Pro instead? It's got a 120 Hz display so in daily use it'll be a nicer device to use, right? And the cameras of the 13 Pro are probably better than the cameras of the 14, right? I'm assuming the latter because if the cameras of the 14 are better than the cameras of the 13 Pro it would hurt the second hand value of iPhones and thereby eat up a chunk of the market for future models.

Am I missing something? Can I expect a "next big thing" or is the 14 only intended for the most hardcore of fans?

Hope you have a great weekend!
K.

iPhone upgrades year-to-year are incremental, with rare exceptions. The difference between a 13 and 14 may seem stark at the 14s launch, but over the 5 year (or so) respective lifespans these differences shrink. Therefore I (in your situation) would get the 13 - but as @Brad7 suggested in post 2, the price of a 13 will drop at the 14s launch. However, be assured there is no bad decision here - either the 13 or the 14 would be a great decision! Welcome to the iWorld lol!

 

[dsgjax]

Thanks. I can do that. They won't run out of 13s to push me to a 14 anway?

A little more battery life would be certainly be nice.

Thanks. For me a phone is more of a tool than a status symbol so I definitely don't need the latest and greatest.

Nice try, Apple
Just kidding. But that is exactly why Apple has handicapped the 'regular' models and added a Pro line; that is consumerism at its finest and not a sentiment brought on by rationality. Because the 13 isn't what you could expect of a €700 phone you look at the €1050 13 Pro and because you're now spending more anyway but still don't get the complete package you're looking at the €1250 14 Pro.
I do understand your point and I can't say I'm not vulnerable to it but to me it seems like that logic could better be used to steer to a second hand 13 / 13 Pro instead of a new 14 Pro.

Yes, I've read that too. I think the rumor is that the 14 will get a 60 Hz display and the 14 Pro an adaptive display that does 1 Hz for always on and 120 Hz for browsing. I've had always on displays for 10 years already so it would absolutely suck to have to go without, but I personally can't really justify the €200 difference to a 13 Pro for just that one simple function. If my current phone wasn't failing me already I'd definitely have waited another 1-2 years until the iPhones are up to standards but unfortunately I doubt my phone will last until the end of the year.

Thanks. I can imagine that's true. But since I would be new to iPhone (well, I did have the 3G so technically I'm returning to the Apple camp ) I was thinking/hoping I was missing something. But you're probably right: I have to look at it as expendable money in order to hold the newest phone instead of expecting to get something that would make up the price difference.

Thanks all!
I'll try to hold out until the launch to see whether the rumors are wrong and the regular 14 also gets a 120 Hz and always on display and if it doesn't I'll go for the 13 or 13 Pro.

The 3G. I still have mine in a box in the closet. A friend talked me into getting it instead of a BlackBerry. I think it was $600! Timflation I guess.

 

[Paddle1]

I’m my opinion, I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a new iPhone that’s already 1 generation old. You’re already spending a lot of money, just to be 1 generation behind from day 1. I would always go with the latest over the previous gen pro. This year it might make sense to pony up a bit more for the 14 pro over the standard 14. But no way would I spend the thick end of a grand just to have a 13 of any variant now it’s a year old

It's all down to price. The previous gen Pro generally has some superior specs than the current standard model. For example the 12 Pro's 6GB of RAM vs the 13's 4GB. Or the 13 Pro's 120hz display over the 14's rumored 60hz. In these cases the older phone will give you a better experience. Newer doesn't necessarily mean better.

 

[Tagbert]

The 3G. I still have mine in a box in the closet. A friend talked me into getting it instead of a BlackBerry. I think it was $600! Timflation I guess.

$549 for the 3G 16GB model without carrier contract discounts. That is $760 adjusted for inflation.

The current iPhone 13 is $799. that is not a bad deal for a device with much better features.

 

[Kay_Ess]

I like the latest and greatest and I could care less what people think of my phone. I don’t even tell people hey look I got the new iPhone. If I can afford to fund my hobby and love for technology then I do it. That’s why I love AUP. I change my devices yearly. I also lease a new car/suv every 3 years. Believe me there’s different ways I can show the world my current status. BTW I use my phone for personal and run my business. Emails. Calls. Texts. I mostly do a lot of work stuff on it. Big screens. Big good battery life. Fast. Important to me.

I understand, especially when it's a hobby. I have weirder hobbies haha

@Kay_Ess,

If you decide to opt for an iPhone 13, see what Apple is offering refurbished. I want to stress that I mean what Apple itself is offering, not a third party. You'll save some additional money, and Apple sells refurbished phones that are in top condition with a full warranty.

Thanks for the tip! I don't see refurbished iPhones on offer where I live but maybe they'll show up after the 14 is available. It could be a nice way to get an iPad, though.

iPhone upgrades year-to-year are incremental, with rare exceptions. The difference between a 13 and 14 may seem stark at the 14s launch, but over the 5 year (or so) respective lifespans these differences shrink. Therefore I (in your situation) would get the 13 - but as @Brad7 suggested in post 2, the price of a 13 will drop at the 14s launch. However, be assured there is no bad decision here - either the 13 or the 14 would be a great decision! Welcome to the iWorld lol!

Thanks for the suggestion and the welcome!

The 3G. I still have mine in a box in the closet. A friend talked me into getting it instead of a BlackBerry. I think it was $600! Timflation I guess.

I still have mine too! I can already imagine myself in the future, showing it to some kids. It really changed the world.
€609 for me, I think. The phone I had before that was €20..!

 

[ShadowGuardian87]

The thing with iPhones is that the rumor mill is always running and it's always " Next year's phone will have X big feature" so I say upgrade whenever you are ready. That USB- C rumor has been going on for a while now, same with the return of Touch ID under the screen. The iPhone 12 and 13 were supposed to have USB-C according to past rumors but they never happened. But honestly, iPhones are expensive and I would just pay extra to have the latest phone rather than paying a lot to have last year's phone. Unless you can get like a 13 pro for a REALLY good discounted price.

 

[zildMacjian]

the whole 14 series may get 120hz ?
may get camera + battery upgrade ?
we dont know yet ...
think the 14 and 14 Max wont get the a16 tho

but yeah I agree ! probably be a few asking over getting the 13 pro Vs Reg 14