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halfprep455

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Windows Vista has to be one of the worst ideas Microsoft has ever had. First off, my laptop is only 5 months old and I still had to upgrade the RAM to be able to run Vista Pro. When I finally did get Vista running up to speed, some of my device drivers were not Vista compatible. Then to top it off, a lot of my games were not compatible with Vista. Why did Microsoft have to make Vista so non-backwards compatible. It might be just me but Vista looks an awful lot like Mac OS 10.4!
 
When Mac OS X first came out, it wasn't just not backwards compatible with some things. It wasn't backwards compatible with anything. Also, computers that were perfectly comfortable running Mac OS 9 were struggling to even boot with 10.0.

There are reasons why Vista sucks (Flip3D = super lame) but not being backwards compatible isn't one of them in my book. Old crap needs to go to make way for new crap.
 
Heres list for the worst ideas from Microsoft. In Order.

1. Windows ME
2. Windows Vista
3. Windows 98 1st Edition
4. Windows 3.1
5. Windows 95
6. Windows 98 2nd Edition
7. Windows 2000
8. Windows XP
9. Zune
10. Windows Media Player
 
Not to be contradictory, but I was buying a lcd monitor the other day and it happened to be hooked up to a Vista machine. Now I hate M$ just as much as the next self-respecting Mac user, but I have to admit... the interface was much less of a pain in the arse than Windows always is. I was thinking to myself, "gee, what if they had offered this kind of OS back ten years ago when I waz learning Mac OS, would I have been happy with a pc?" Naaaah!;)

I love my mini that came with OS X installed.:D
 
When Mac OS X first came out, it wasn't just not backwards compatible with some things. It wasn't backwards compatible with anything. Also, computers that were perfectly comfortable running Mac OS 9 were struggling to even boot with 10.0.

There are reasons why Vista sucks (Flip3D = super lame) but not being backwards compatible isn't one of them in my book. Old crap needs to go to make way for new crap.

At least OS X was something completely new, better justifying the incompatibility.
 
In my opinion, Vista is a cheap combination of Windows XP and Mac OS. I may have just had bad luck installing it but it felt like one of the most unstable Operating Systems I have ever used. I was running it on an HP laptop with an Intel Core Duo 1.8ghz, 1.5 GB of RAM, 256 GB of Video RAM, 180 GB HD. I had to upgrade the RM from 1 GB to 1.5 GB to get Vista to run a little more stable.
 
Best Buy employees have described it to me as "basically Windows XP with a new skin." They all seemed very disappointed, like their hopes had been dashed.
 
Best Buy employees have described it to me as "basically Windows XP with a new skin." They all seemed very disappointed, like their hopes had been dashed.

Well, that is exactly how I describe it to anyone who asks me. 5 years wasn't worth a generic expose, generic dashboard and a crappy interface. (not to mention it is 400 dollars for Ultimate)
 
My friends dad is an IT specialist with Dell and has been working with them for ages. he says that almost everyone he knows there is more then disappointed with Vista. He said that here are RUMORS going around that Dell is intrested in taking another look at the Mac Clone Program. Supposidly Dell would be intrested in making a deal with apple to use Mac OS on Dell PCs. However, these are JUST RUMORS!
 
now it might sounds like i'm trying to defend for Microsoft. I might, but that's not my intention, i'm just trying to show you something you might not see at first.


Windows Vista has to be one of the worst ideas Microsoft has ever had. First off, my laptop is only 5 months old and I still had to upgrade the RAM to be able to run Vista Pro. When I finally did get Vista running up to speed, some of my device drivers were not Vista compatible. Then to top it off, a lot of my games were not compatible with Vista. Why did Microsoft have to make Vista so non-backwards compatible. It might be just me but Vista looks an awful lot like Mac OS 10.4!

first there is no such thing as Vista Pro. There are computer out there now for sale that cannot run Microsoft Vista. It all depend on your own computer's specification. I have a IBM thinkpad from 3 years ago that I can run Vista just fine. Everything is quite smooth.

When technology advances, one downside is what you were using before might not be used in the next system. Some devices might not work with Vista, let along the device driver. Softwares such as device driver and game are made specifically to one operating system. If Vista has a lot of improvement, a lot of code being re-written, inevitably some software, be it driver or other software, will not work. It has nothing to do with whether it's backward compatible or not. (Of course, they could make it backward compatible, but that might cause other problems that you will bitch about).

Another example is this. Can you use RAM from a desktop machine in Mac Pro today? Can you use any RAM that doesn't have the same specification as Mac Pro's ram, in Mac Pro (or most other computer)? No you cannot. That's how technology works. When it advances, it throw away old technologies. You can also say that Apple is horrible at being backward compatible because non of the macs today have dial up port, and none of the desktop have floppy disks. But that's because technology moves forward.



Heres list for the worst ideas from Microsoft. In Order.

1. Windows ME
2. Windows Vista
3. Windows 98 1st Edition
4. Windows 3.1
5. Windows 95
6. Windows 98 2nd Edition
7. Windows 2000
8. Windows XP
9. Zune
10. Windows Media Player

:rolleyes: what's that smell, did you just pull that out of your arse?

that's such a judgmental statement, with no ground to stand on.
At least OS X was something completely new, better justifying the incompatibility.

so when something is not completely new, it has to be perfectly backward compatible? it's not even as that Vista doesn't work with anything that worked in XP. It worked with most, just not all. Tiger doesn't work with everything that worked in Panther. Intel mac doesn't work with everything from PPC mac.

get out of your mac box, and there's much MUCH more than just Macs in this world, son.

In my opinion, Vista is a cheap combination of Windows XP and Mac OS. I may have just had bad luck installing it but it felt like one of the most unstable Operating Systems I have ever used. I was running it on an HP laptop with an Intel Core Duo 1.8ghz, 1.5 GB of RAM, 256 GB of Video RAM, 180 GB HD. I had to upgrade the RM from 1 GB to 1.5 GB to get Vista to run a little more stable.

I have a thinkpad t40p from 3 yrs ago, with 512MB of ram, it runs vista perfectly smooth and stable. Sure I might not get some of the cool effect, but for what I do get, I don't need to do any tweaking to make it not crash.

People, grow up. Vista is not a horrible operating system. Every operating system has its own advantage and disadvantage. There are definitely things that Vista has better than OS X, but just because you don't care doesn't mean it's all bad.
 
I just do not see the selling point for Vista. It really is not that much diffrent then XP in the way it looks. Again this is my opinion. Im not basing this off of anything. Im sure some people like you like Vista. however, I think Vista is a load of BS! The only reason I actually installed it was because one of my friends dad gave me a copy of it for free. And I didnt mean to say Vista Pro. i ment Vista Ultimate. Sorry about that.
 
I just do not see the selling point for Vista. It really is not that much diffrent then XP in the way it looks. Again this is my opinion. Im not basing this off of anything. Im sure some people like you like Vista. however, I think Vista is a load of BS! The only reason I actually installed it was because one of my friends dad gave me a copy of it for free. And I didnt mean to say Vista Pro. i ment Vista Ultimate. Sorry about that.

i don't like Vista, however I can see where Vista is good. That's all.

I just can't stand it when people endlessly criticize Windows as if All Microsoft Is Evil. They might not be the best at everything, but they are certainly a successful business with good products.
 
Im not saying Microsoft is evil. They have had their share of good products in my opinion. Microsoft Office is a good Product. I am also a hudge fan of XBOX 360. 360 beats the hell out of PS3. (maybe not so much Wii) I also know a lot of people who are in the airforce and they all say Microsoft Flight Simulator is an excellant product. I agree that you can not just blindly say Microsoft is an evil company.
 
Heres list for the worst ideas from Microsoft. In Order.

1. Windows ME
2. Windows Vista
3. Windows 98 1st Edition
4. Windows 3.1
5. Windows 95
6. Windows 98 2nd Edition
7. Windows 2000

8. Windows XP
9. Zune
10. Windows Media Player

How DARE you put 98 SE and 2000 on that list? Most freaking stable porducts they ever had!(seriously)
 
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People, grow up. Vista is not a horrible operating system. Every operating system has its own advantage and disadvantage. There are definitely things that Vista has better than OS X, but just because you don't care doesn't mean it's all bad.

Well, that's obvious that Vista has some good things because XP already had some and some of the things are really simple. I don't think in any way, shape, or form that Mac OS X has to emulate Windows to be better but Apple could learn from what Microsoft does with Windows.
 
apple strive for simplicity, but sometimes omit some minor functionality.

such as customizing the the desktop (and i dont mean just the background). there are many interface hackings out there, but they tend to de-stablize the system. i'm sure if apple, knowing its own interface, come up with some interface customization, it will be more stable than those 3rd party.

that, windows have, OS X doesn't... you might not care, and i sure don't, but there are many ppl that do.
 
How DARE you put 98 SE and 2000 on that list? Most freaking stable porducts they ever had!(seriously)

Never used 98 much, but 2000 was rock solid for me, better than XP. ME...good lord. Less said the better.

I don't like Windows, but lets face it - the world runs on Bill Gates' baby. It isn't a total turd or MS would be history and we'd all be running Linux or OS X instead.

Just used Vista for the first time today on a new Dell Precision...not super excited with it but I wasn' lost trying to do stuff. Aero...meh...A little busy - I'm still a fan of the classic look they intro'd with 95. No point in making it look like anything other than the office machie it is. ;)
 
But compared to Mac they are unstable. My Windows 98 SE crashed all the time! Windows 2000 was ok.

i think most of the times when your OS crashes (let it be Windows or OS X) it's because there's something you did to make it crash. be it installing bad software or hardware, you did it.

granted, there are more (% wise) good developers for os x than for windows. it's not really windows' fault.

and the list you were making, that's supposedly for "worst ideas from microsoft" why were you comparing it to Mac (as if mac is microsoft's idea, or mac is a software:rolleyes: :rolleyes: )
 
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