Why won't the next MacBook Pro be touchscreen? Plus my complaints regarding storage limitations

[AbsintheAbstinence]

Why is there such a tolerance for being behind the curve?

Furthermore . . one might notice that with the advent of solid state drives we now have manufacturers putting out laptops with 256 and 512 GB storage like that's sufficive . . sorry buddy but your technological advancement doesn't render a newfound limitation in my needs. 1 TB should be standard for a laptop that's marketed toward creative professionals, I should be able to have a 2 TB option

With 8GB of RAM being the new standard for MacBook Air there's no reason a MacBook Pro should have anything less than 16 at a starting point, I should have an option to upgrade to 32GB

Will there be a 13 inch MacBook with an i7 The rumors are now pointing to a release of the 13 inch MacBook Pro prior to the 15 inch . . if I have to wait an extra 2 months for adequate specs I will be furious

 

[natted]

I agree. I'm currently on a Macbook Pro Retina 15 with 512GB SSD. I have to free up space quite frequently and it's annoying carrying around an external drive. Dropbox is great but doesn't play well with external drives.

If a new Macbook Pro 15 came out with 1TB SSD base and upgrade option to 2TB SSD (for a reasonable price) I'd be very likely to update my machine.

As it stands, my prediction is the usual Apple trickle down with base models stuck on 256GB SSD. Essentially leaving me to switch back to a win laptop or hold out for another 2-3 years with my current machine. Hardware seems to be moving so slow these days except for everything being thinner and lighter - which no longer is enough to push me to upgrade.

 

[AbsintheAbstinence]

If they can't add a SSD with reasonable capacity they have no business offering an SSD

 

[Videomanmac]

I don't want a touchscreen Mac. iPad Pro (or even iPad for that matter) serves its purpose well.

 

[AbsintheAbstinence]

I don't want a touchscreen Mac. iPad Pro (or even iPad for that matter) serves its purpose well.

Unless I can beam my current page over to a iPad while browsing or beam my whole display to it while video editing, audio editing, etc. that will not suffice when I'm using my MacBook. Stop lying to yourself, you want a touchscreen and you know it. If they announced it tomorrow your panties would be wet and you would be championing the idea of touchscreen on your laptop

 

[AZhappyjack]

Unless I can beam my current page over to a iPad while browsing or beam my whole display to it while video editing, audio editing, etc. that will not suffice when I'm using my MacBook. Stop lying to yourself, you want a touchscreen and you know it. If they announced it tomorrow your panties would be wet and you would be championing the idea of touchscreen on your laptop

I have absolutely no desire or need for a touchscreen MBP. I'm not lying to you, to myself or anyone else.

 

[itsamacthing]

OSX is not touch optimized in my opinion, so they would need to make some sort of an adjust to the GUI MacOS? Air gestures would be cool that the OS picks up on, and then my screen won't be loaded with finger prints.

I am all for 2TB of Flash storage, tired of plugging this and that in.

 

[Videomanmac]

Unless I can beam my current page over to a iPad while browsing or beam my whole display to it while video editing, audio editing, etc. that will not suffice when I'm using my MacBook. Stop lying to yourself, you want a touchscreen and you know it. If they announced it tomorrow your panties would be wet and you would be championing the idea of touchscreen on your laptop

I would rather touch a touchpad, then have to awkwardly touch my finger to the screen, which means my hand has to reach over the keyboard and travel all that distance to touch the screen.

What's wrong with using a touchpad, anyways?

I have always thought of touchscreen laptops to be terrible ideas. They were invented by the PC makers to try and stop the bleed of market share to tablets. And yes, I've had a work computer be touch screen compatible and I NEVER used it in real work. Only to show the new hire that the screen is touch compatible.

 

[Queen6]

Why is there such a tolerance for being behind the curve?

Furthermore . . one might notice that with the advent of solid state drives we now have manufacturers putting out laptops with 256 and 512 GB storage like that's sufficive . . sorry buddy but your technological advancement doesn't render a newfound limitation in my needs. 1 TB should be standard for a laptop that's marketed toward creative professionals, I should be able to have a 2 TB option

With 8GB of RAM being the new standard for MacBook Air there's no reason a MacBook Pro should have anything less than 16 at a starting point, I should have an option to upgrade to 32GB

Will there be a 13 inch MacBook with an i7 The rumors are now pointing to a release of the 13 inch MacBook Pro prior to the 15 inch . . if I have to wait an extra 2 months for adequate specs I will be furious

Simple answer profit, Apple has diverged computing lines to force the user to purchase ever more product nothing more, nothing less. Apple`s forced in-house upgrades carry extensive margin, further boosting Apple`s profit at the expense of the customer.

There is absolutely no technical reason why Apple could not produce an OS X touch & Pencil driven MBP, all the nonsense about ergonomics and user experience is purely sales & marketing to push you ever more to purchase MBP & IPP, smart, yet equally shallow. Great shame really as without IOS no doubt we would have a touch enabled Mac with Pen support, highly likely surpassing all it`s Windows based counterparts.

As to why people tolerate, much of Apple`s user base is not in the "professional" realm, with the usage being more focused on entertainment & recreational use. The vast majority will be more than happy with just an IOS device. Personally I see great advantages to a notebook with full desktop OS that is touch enabled and has pen input as such my next system will have both, something Apple will likely never produce, outside of IOS.

As much as the upcoming 2016 MPB`s will see some of the most significant change to the line, they will still remain to be basic clamshell notebooks. I also very much agree that many of the detractors to a touch enabled Mac would instantly U-Turn on such an announcement by Apple.

Similar to Lenovo`s ThinkPad X1 Carbon Apple could offer a convertible version of the MBP, equally it will never happen as Apple`s vision has long since been traded for profit...

Q-6

 

[RoboWarriorSr]

Unless I can beam my current page over to a iPad while browsing or beam my whole display to it while video editing, audio editing, etc. that will not suffice when I'm using my MacBook. Stop lying to yourself, you want a touchscreen and you know it. If they announced it tomorrow your panties would be wet and you would be championing the idea of touchscreen on your laptop

I mean sure if you must insist...

 

[Samuelsan2001]

I don't want it and everyone I know with touchscreen laptops and all in ones never use the touchscreen. It's not Apple vision for computers and that is that, if that's what you want buy something else.

As to storage and ram options you have no idea what they will be offering yet so wait for your complaints.

 

[CE3]

If they can't add a SSD with reasonable capacity they have no business offering an SSD

There are other benefits to SSDs besides capacity.

I don't want it and everyone I know with touchscreen laptops and all in ones never use the touchscreen. It's not Apple vision for computers and that is that, if that's what you want buy something else.

As to storage and ram options you have no idea what they will be offering yet so wait for your complaints.

I had a touchscreen laptop and never used it either.

I would like to see Pencil integration with the MacBook via a new touchpad, or, even better, the ability to connect an iPad or iPhone to a Mac and use it as a touchpad for OS X programs. Both of these are far more useful ways to implement touch IMO.

 

[Queen6]

I don't want it and everyone I know with touchscreen laptops and all in ones never use the touchscreen. It's not Apple vision for computers and that is that, if that's what you want buy something else.

As to storage and ram options you have no idea what they will be offering yet so wait for your complaints.

Safe to say 256 will be the lowest capacity of the new line up, similar to the rMB. As for Touch & Pen it would be an option for some of us, equally Apple is not in a position to suit all, nor is it aligned with Apple`s mobile/portable vision of computing.

As you stated there are other options...

Q-6

 

[Samuelsan2001]

There are other benefits to SSDs besides capacity.



I had a touchscreen laptop and never used it either.

I would like to see Pencil integration with the MacBook via a new touchpad, or, even better, the ability to connect an iPad or iPhone to a Mac and use it as a touchpad for OS X programs. Both of these are far more useful ways to implement touch IMO.

You can already use iPads and phones as a second screen so not out of the realms of possibility to use them as a drawing tablet with the pencil.

 

[Queen6]

You can already use iPads and phones as a second screen so not out of the realms of possibility to use them as a drawing tablet with the pencil.

I believe it's entirely possible, equally from a personal point of view I dont want to carry two devices and associated ancillaries when a single unified notebook can accomplish the same task.

Q-6

 

[Samuelsan2001]

I believe it's entirely possible, equally from a personal point of view I dont want to carry two devices and associated ancillaries when a single unified notebook can accomplish the same task.

Q-6

My comment was replying to someone who wanted that functionality from their iPad, it's not for everyone of course.

 

[CE3]

You can already use iPads and phones as a second screen so not out of the realms of possibility to use them as a drawing tablet with the pencil.

Yes, like a native app you open in iOS after plugging into the Mac, and then it works as a touchpad in all the apps that build in the support.

Also, I meant to say "Pencil integration via a new trackpad" in my post..not touchpad..but the iPad would be a much better option if it worked well.

 

[maflynn]

I don't want it and everyone I know with touchscreen laptops and all in ones never use the touchscreen

I use my touch screen on the Surface Pro all the time. Many times its easier while its sitting on my lap with the keyboard to touch the screen to scroll, or zoom.

This reminds me of the multitasking topic on the iPhone, so many years ago. The people would come out swinging on how it kills the battery, and how its not needed for a phone. Then when Appel rolled it out, many of those same people waxed poetically on how great apple is by re-inventing multitasking.

I think it can be very useful, I have a touch screen enabled All-In-One that my wife uses, and if Apple adds features in to OS X that embrace that type of input, it will be a great move by them

 

[Samuelsan2001]

Yes, like a native app you open in iOS after plugging into the Mac, and then it works as a touchpad in all the apps that build in the support.

Also, I meant to say "Pencil integration via a new trackpad" in my post..not touchpad..but the iPad would be a much better option if it worked well.

Yep you can already do it looks like there is an app out there. See link.

http://astropad.com/

I use my touch screen on the Surface Pro all the time. Many times its easier while its sitting on my lap with the keyboard to touch the screen to scroll, or zoom.

This reminds me of the multitasking topic on the iPhone, so many years ago. The people would come out swinging on how it kills the battery, and how its not needed for a phone. Then when Appel rolled it out, many of those same people waxed poetically on how great apple is by re-inventing multitasking.

I think it can be very useful, I have a touch screen enabled All-In-One that my wife uses, and if Apple adds features in to OS X that embrace that type of input, it will be a great move by them

Really?? because touchscreen on computers (not tablets) have been with us for years now and I see them like 3D TV's everyone bought them few have ever used it more than a couple of times.

Yep never use multitasking on my iPad either, that's what my Mac is for.

However I do see the appeal to people for an all in one tablet/laptop replacement if that's what you want, and there are many to choose from, I just don't see why anyone would expect apple to make them if that's not what they see as their vision for computing.

 

[maflynn]

Yep never use multitasking on my iPad either, that's what my Mac is for.

You've never play music and then open up another app?

Really?? because touchscreen on computers

Yeah, in fact my wife's old work, bought a bunch of HPs that were touch screen, and they all loved it. I think people coming from phones and tablets prefer a touch screen on the computer - its what they're used too.

 

[Samuelsan2001]

You've never play music and then open up another app?


Yeah, in fact my wife's old work, bought a bunch of HPs that were touch screen, and they all loved it. I think people coming from phones and tablets prefer a touch screen on the computer - its what they're used too.

I do but that is not what you were alluding to, that functionality has always been there without side by side apps open.

Nope hate any touchscreen on any computer find it non ergonomic and far slower than using an excellent Mac trackpad. I couldn't care less if Apple add it or not I'll just turn it off I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

 

[maflynn]

I do but that is not what you were alluding to, that functionality has always been there without side by side apps open.

Nope, I was refering to the time, when iOS had no multitasking capability at all, and how so many iPhone fans claimed it was not needed because Steve Jobs said it wasn't, then when it was added, it was the greatest thing since sliced bread - even though they previously derided how multitasking on a phone was not needed.

using an excellent Mac trackpad

Well there you go, I hate trackpad. While Macs have the best trackpads, I still hate using them.

The bottom line, is different strokes for different folks. I don't know if Apple will release a touch enabled Mac, but there will be people who will like them and I have little doubt that Apple will do a good job enabling OS X for that as well. One size doesn't fit all, and I think this is a good example.

Apple is being left behind in design and features in an ever shrinking market - people are buying less computers today and the competition has leap frogged them. I think adding a touchscreen will help

 

[2ilent8cho]

I am not in the slightest interested in a touch screen Macbook. If i was going to buy a Windows computer i would actively look for models without touch screen.

The experience of using a physical keyboard on an iPad then having to lift you hand up to the screen to navigate is not a comfortable one and not something i would want to replicate on a Macbook. I would just always use the trackpad i can pinch zoom and do other gestures on it. The only market i see a genuine advantage for a touch screen Macbook is design , people drawing, and if the apps for iOS that run on the iPad Pro get even better (which I'm guessing they will) i just don't see the point of a touch Mac.

 

[snaky69]

A touchscreen on a laptop is about the dumbest, most unergonomic thing there is. That's why.

Moving your hands from the keyboard and mouse to the screen is both uncomfortable and counter-productive. Flailing your arms about on a vertical surface gets tiring real fast.

Most people I know that bought a laptop with a touchscreen used it for a day or two for the novelty factor then stopped because it actually slowed them down and was tiring to use.

 

[Samuelsan2001]

Nope, I was refering to the time, when iOS had no multitasking capability at all, and how so many iPhone fans claimed it was not needed because Steve Jobs said it wasn't, then when it was added, it was the greatest thing since sliced bread - even though they previously derided how multitasking on a phone was not needed.


Well there you go, I hate trackpad. While Macs have the best trackpads, I still hate using them.

The bottom line, is different strokes for different folks. I don't know if Apple will release a touch enabled Mac, but there will be people who will like them and I have little doubt that Apple will do a good job enabling OS X for that as well. One size doesn't fit all, and I think this is a good example.

Apple is being left behind in design and features in an ever shrinking market - people are buying less computers today and the competition has leap frogged them. I think adding a touchscreen will help

That's where we'll have to disagree then, will it sell a few more laptops?? Maybe. Will it be a game changer or any use in the long run?? I think not it hasn't worked for other manufacturers.