iPhone 11 Pro Why would you buy 11 pro, if 12 has an oled except for size

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If 0,3 inch is not that important, why would you choose more expensive 11 pro over 12 6,1" ?
I know that we have not enough informations...
It will probably be better (12 6,1") but lack of telephoto lens and maybe oled with lower resolution ?
Let's discuss :)
 

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I prefer Samsung OLED panels (12 Pro/Pro Max Series) vs BOE (12/12 Max). If high refresh rate is a thing, that will only be available on Pro models, along with the LIDAR sensor.
 

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Yeah but I ask why would you choose a 11 pro in same or higher price than 12/12 Max model...
 

chrfr

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Yeah but I ask why would you choose a 11 pro in same or higher price than 12/12 Max model...
Why compare the 11 Pro vs. the theoretical 12 Pro? It's unlikely that Apple will keep selling the 11 Pro when the 12/12 Pro is released.
 
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If 0,3 inch is not that important, why would you choose more expensive 11 pro over 12 6,1" ?
I know that we have not enough informations...
It will probably be better (12 6,1") but lack of telephoto lens and maybe oled with lower resolution ?
Let's discuss :)
Apple could make a 11 inch with a Super OLED, that would be nice.
 
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I compare vs theoretical 12 6,1" non-pro and one year after launch many shops or premium resselers sell older models for about half a price...
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I wouldn't choose an 11 Pro over the 6.1" iPhone 12 if I am brutally honest. I am sure they will be around the same price later this year but the 12 is more appealing to me personally with what it offers.
 

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Yes, especially on black friday will be 11 pro at lower price than 12 non-pro 6,1"...
Maybe 12 non-pro will have larger bezels, lower resolution and contrast or worse battery life...
(and of course will not offer stainless steel and metallic colors like gold...)
 
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snow755

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I have a iPhone 11 6.1" screen size wish I find too be about the right size for me if they come out with iPhone 12 pro 6.1" I will be upgrading to it I been waiting the pro model of the phone since day one but at the same time I want it too be the right size not too big or not too small
 

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Depends how important the telephoto is but yes if i had to choose between 11 and 11 pro? I would choose 11...i like the bigger size of the 11 pro max.
 

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The comparison doesn't really make any sense because Apple will certainly discount the 11 pro series. But one reason could be cost; for example the XS in uk can be brought new from resellers for as cheap as 619£, so cheaper than the 11 by quite a bit. If the 11 pro series is discounted you may see something similar; especially for the 64gb standard model, which could lose its value quicker than the XS did thanks to the new 128 GB standard. Furthermore, the standard 12 series is rumoured to have BOE screens; since its rumoured the 12 pro series will use Samsung screens, we can presume the standard 12 screens will be inferior in some form to Samsungs. You say ignore size, but the sizing options are clearly different and it can't just be ignored. 5.8 inch vs 6.1 and 5.4; a lot of people find 5.8 inch as the "perfect medium". Other than that the 11 pro will have things like telephoto lense, stainless steel chassis etc. Generally, I think there'd be plenty of reasons for someone to pick up a heavily discounted 11 pro over a 12.
 

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If 0,3 inch is not that important, why would you choose more expensive 11 pro over 12 6,1" ?
I know that we have not enough informations...
It will probably be better (12 6,1") but lack of telephoto lens and maybe oled with lower resolution ?
Let's discuss :)
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I actually wanted to wait for the 5.4” iPhone 12 but a) my 2016 SE’s battery decided to get bad so I needed one now and b) the ONLY thing I miss coming from a Galaxy Note 8 is the telephoto lens. The 12 non-pro versions apparently will have just wide and super-wide, the latter of which I have as much use for as the front selfie (i.e. almost no use at all).

So I bought an iPhone 11 Pro (used, mint, ~$200 off). The smallest size with a 2x lens.
 
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mnsportsgeek

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Probably the bigger screen real estate, higher pixel density (likely) and better camera.

Honestly I wouldn’t though. The new processing power alone would be enough to push me to the 12.
 

imp3rator

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Would 12 (non pro) have similar display (in terms of quality) as 11 pro, or XS ?
 

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My question is: HOW inferior will BOE OLEDs be in comparison to Samsung OLEDs? 120hz aside.

This is what confuses me because Apple always puts quality displays (LCD or not) that look good on their iPhones. The BOE OLEDs vs Samsung OLEDs will be an interesting comparison.

In theory, the 11 Pro/Max iPhones will have better OLED displays than the upcoming 12. But by how much?? These are questions I'm curious about.

I will laugh if they're actually improved Liquid Retina displays though with thinner bezels. I wouldn't complain.
 

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My question is: HOW inferior will BOE OLEDs be in comparison to Samsung OLEDs? 120hz aside.

This is what confuses me because Apple always puts quality displays (LCD or not) that look good on their iPhones. The BOE OLEDs vs Samsung OLEDs will be an interesting comparison.

In theory, the 11 Pro/Max iPhones will have better OLED displays than the upcoming 12. But by how much?? These are questions I'm curious about.

I will laugh if they're actually improved Liquid Retina displays though with thinner bezels. I wouldn't complain.
If they were in any way inferior, I highly doubt Apples supply chain would accept them. It’s a bit early to be assuming there could be a quality issue.
 

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If they were in any way inferior, I highly doubt Apples supply chain would accept them. It’s a bit early to be assuming there could be a quality issue.
No, I'm 100% with you. I'm just curious as to how much better the 12 Pro line OLEDs will be vs the BOE OLEDs? It's a bit different from LCD vs OLED we had with the 11 vs 11 Pro, you know?
 
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My question is: HOW inferior will BOE OLEDs be in comparison to Samsung OLEDs? 120hz aside.

This is what confuses me because Apple always puts quality displays (LCD or not) that look good on their iPhones. The BOE OLEDs vs Samsung OLEDs will be an interesting comparison.

In theory, the 11 Pro/Max iPhones will have better OLED displays than the upcoming 12. But by how much?? These are questions I'm curious about.

I will laugh if they're actually improved Liquid Retina displays though with thinner bezels. I wouldn't complain.
A 1080p 401 ppi LCD display (basically the 8+) but with improved "liquid retina" colour accuracy or whatever on at least one 12 wouldn't be terrible. I'm also interested in seeing the comparison between BOE vs Samsung OLEDS.

Some rumours have suggested the pro/Samsung model displays will come with 10 bit colour depth (only 8 bit in the standard 12s) and will be able to go up to 1000 NITS of brightness thanks to the new XDR technology. So better colour depth + brightness + 120 Hz will probably be the big differences.
 

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No, I'm 100% with you. I'm just curious as to how much better the 12 Pro line OLEDs will be vs the BOE OLEDs? It's a bit different from LCD vs OLED we had with the 11 vs 11 Pro, you know?
8-bit vs. 10-bit color

Current displays are all 8-bit. Only the ProDisplay XDR is 10-bit. From a practical POV, the Pro won't have an appreciably better display.
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If they were in any way inferior, I highly doubt Apples supply chain would accept them. It’s a bit early to be assuming there could be a quality issue.
Not to mention BOE has been an Apple LCD supplier for years.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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I have a feeling when these new iPhones arrive we are going to have the next generation of those adamant there are massive differences when the differences are perhaps very minimal. We can all agree I’m sure that the screens are likely to be very good all round. To my knowledge Apple haven’t put a bad panel in any of their phones, certainly since I’ve been buying them.
 

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Because OLED beats my eyes into oblivion.

I highly doubt Apple will use an analogue PWM controller as I’m sure the must cost .12 cents more and are about .0005mm’s thicker.
 

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