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I'm very serious.

I understand SSD's are faster, but it doesn't seem like the speed is worth the cost just yet. Or that the speed improvements are that huge. And yes I also know SSD's don't have moving parts, but I wonder about the life span. Doesn't flash memory have a more limited life?
You really need to use an SSD equipped Mac to compare at same time to your Mac to see the difference in speed/efficiency.
 
I have nothing but respect for the folks who use SSDs but I just don't know how you can survive with something less than 500GB? I struggle to fit all my stuff in my Apple born 500GB drive and am contemplating a move to 1TB. Seriously, when I read about somebody's new 128 GB drive I can't believe they can use a drive that small.

I guess the question is speed vs storage. I use my MBP for work which includes some pretty large VMs and they don't make an SSD in 1 TB that doesn't cost more than a MBP.

For the money, I think a 1 TB drive and 16 GB of memory is a better solution.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have 16GB of memory and a 1 TB SSD but I can't justify the cost. Hopefully, in a few years the price of SSDs will be more reasonable.


Cheers!
-P
 
I have nothing but respect for the folks who use SSDs but I just don't know how you can survive with something less than 500GB? I struggle to fit all my stuff in my Apple born 500GB drive and am contemplating a move to 1TB. Seriously, when I read about somebody's new 128 GB drive I can't believe they can use a drive that small.

I guess the question is speed vs storage. I use my MBP for work which includes some pretty large VMs and they don't make an SSD in 1 TB that doesn't cost more than a MBP.

For the money, I think a 1 TB drive and 16 GB of memory is a better solution.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have 16GB of memory and a 1 TB SSD but I can't justify the cost. Hopefully, in a few years the price of SSDs will be more reasonable.


Cheers!
-P

What percentage of your system do VMs take up?
 
I have nothing but respect for the folks who use SSDs but I just don't know how you can survive with something less than 500GB? I struggle to fit all my stuff in my Apple born 500GB drive and am contemplating a move to 1TB. Seriously, when I read about somebody's new 128 GB drive I can't believe they can use a drive that small.

I guess the question is speed vs storage. I use my MBP for work which includes some pretty large VMs and they don't make an SSD in 1 TB that doesn't cost more than a MBP.

For the money, I think a 1 TB drive and 16 GB of memory is a better solution.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have 16GB of memory and a 1 TB SSD but I can't justify the cost. Hopefully, in a few years the price of SSDs will be more reasonable.


Cheers!
-P

It's called, external hard drives. And not storing every single video you have ever watched on the drive and instead, deleting them when you're done.

How much information do you need to access outside of the home? If you aren't moving gigs of media around daily, you don't need a huge drive.

Even if you are, a simple usb external hard drive solves these problems. Move what you want to edit or watch, watch it, then move it back or delete it.

I have a 320 now and have around 8 games on the bootcamp partition and a TON of stuff on this drive. I can easily get by with a 320; I also have a 320 to use a a time capsule and another 320 to use for media files.
 
Installed the 256GB Samsung 470 SSD in my 13" 2.7ghz MBP. Massive difference. Recommended to all. Everything opens and responds INSTANTLY.
 
Installed the 256GB Samsung 470 SSD in my 13" 2.7ghz MBP. Massive difference. Recommended to all. Everything opens and responds INSTANTLY.

I have the 128GB version, hell of a drive. The only thing better than the Samsung 470 128 would be the Samsung 470 256. Have you enabled TRIM on yours?
 
Okay, so I decided to get an SSD to try out. I got the 128GB Crucial drive, and I must say, it is very, very nice.

That said, I think I will go ahead with the Optibay conversion if it is not too much trouble.

Which kit is the best to go with? I am going to buy

http://www.centrix-intl.com/editpurchase.asp?item=CentrixID3022

so I will be able to use my Superdrive when I need it, and I was leaning toward the OWC data doubler since it comes with all the relevant tools (I have the screw drivers but not the strange other tool.) There are some on Amazon as well, but many of them seem to be hit and miss. I think I will end up putting the SSD in the optibay and the HDD back in the HD area so it will be more secure.
 
Well until I can get a 500GB SSD for the same price as a 500GB HDD (I paid $70 Canadian for my WD Scorpio Black 500GB HDD 7200rpm) then I'll pass. Yes the faster speed would be sweet but my MBP is pretty fast as is.
 
Well until I can get a 500GB SSD for the same price as a 500GB HDD (I paid $70 Canadian for my WD Scorpio Black 500GB HDD 7200rpm) then I'll pass. Yes the faster speed would be sweet but my MBP is pretty fast as is.

LOL...and so is my 140HP car until you compare it to a 911 GT3 but keep thinking you computer is fast.
 
LOL...and so is my 140HP car until you compare it to a 911 GT3 but keep thinking you computer is fast.

Case in point is that SSDs are way overpriced at this point. Until the cost per GB for SSDs matches or comes close to standard HDD I'll wait. Unless i can use both an SSD and HDD in my 2011 MBP simultaneously. I'd consider that as a "stepping stone" if there is a way to have certain things on the SSD and the rest on the HDD then that would be cool. I could take the Superdrive out and put it in an external case.
 
Case in point is that SSDs are way overpriced at this point. Until the cost per GB for SSDs matches or comes close to standard HDD I'll wait. Unless i can use both an SSD and HDD in my 2011 MBP simultaneously. I'd consider that as a "stepping stone" if there is a way to have certain things on the SSD and the rest on the HDD then that would be cool. I could take the Superdrive out and put it in an external case.

overpriced is your perception...

Yes you can use both...in a 2011 MBP

A ferrari and corvette are overpriced...

Actually you case in point is you MBPis fast..which is laughable..

SSD will eventually reach CPG of Platter but it'll be a bit..
 
Case in point is that SSDs are way overpriced at this point. Until the cost per GB for SSDs matches or comes close to standard HDD I'll wait. Unless i can use both an SSD and HDD in my 2011 MBP simultaneously. I'd consider that as a "stepping stone" if there is a way to have certain things on the SSD and the rest on the HDD then that would be cool. I could take the Superdrive out and put it in an external case.

Hahahahahah

Haha

That's awesome. This is like... the point int he movie where the person finds out EVERYTHING and, while explaining it, some major plot point is happening in the background and you're practically screaming at the tv.

Oh man.

SSD in HD slot
Optibay from ebay or something
Take out Superdrive, throw optibay in there with original HD
=
2 hard drives; ssd with applications and the HD for files.

People have literally been doing this for months; hell, this is one reason WHY I got the MBP.
 
Case in point is that SSDs are way overpriced at this point. Until the cost per GB for SSDs matches or comes close to standard HDD I'll wait.
are they expensive? that's still debatable(imo, $200 is cheap for a 120GB SSD), but you can say they're expensive. they're NOT overpriced.


and comparing the cost to that of HDDs doesn't make sense to me; why buy RAM? or a flash drive? or a SD/CF card? all of them are much more expensive per GB than a HDD. or why buy a 7200rpm HDD, they're more expensive per GB than a 5400rpm drive..
 
are they expensive? that's still debatable(imo, $200 is cheap for a 120GB SSD), but you can say they're expensive. they're NOT overpriced.


and comparing the cost to that of HDDs doesn't make sense to me; why buy RAM? or a flash drive? or a SD/CF card? all of them are much more expensive per GB than a HDD. or why buy a 7200rpm HDD, they're more expensive per GB than a 5400rpm drive..

Ugh. When people post stuff like this it gets on my nerves.

I can say they are overpriced. That term is subjective. It's ovepriced if I, he, or your mother thinks it is overpriced.

Why doesn't comparing these two make sense? They function in the SAME FORM. That's like saying "comparing dirt tires and street tires don't make sense to me."

*shakes head* You're obviously young. Read more. Post less.
 
comparing dirt tires and street tires also makes no sense. yes, they're both tires, but that's about it. they serve different purposes, and no one looking for dirt tires would cross shop street tires. they fit on the same rim(drive bay), but they perform different specialized tasks.

i liked your [attempt at an] ad hominem also.
 
comparing dirt tires and street tires also makes no sense. yes, they're both tires, but that's about it. they serve different purposes, and no one looking for dirt tires would cross shop street tires. they fit on the same rim(drive bay), but they perform different specialized tasks.

i liked your [attempt at an] ad hominem also.

But they can be both used to drive on the ROAD or DIRT. Dirt/street tires are more similar to comparing the MBP to a MBA. They both roll (compute) but one is more preferable in a certain SITUATION than the other.

But that was my point, originally. That although they are different, they serve the same purpose. No?

Thanks though :)
 
It provides not real useful benefit to me. Sure, it's cool booting in 15 seconds or loading apps in one bounce, but I have 30 seconds to spare if I need to boot (maybe once a week), and once my apps launch (a whopping second and a half later), the SSD won't make my internet connection faster, make my papers better, give me better sound from my music, or anything that I would really consider paying that kind of money for.

Spoken by someone who obviously has never upgraded his Mac to an SSD. Once you go SSD you have no idea how much snappier and more responsive your Mac will be. It's not just about boot times and program launches. It's like you just got a new computer.

Now if your one of those people who only checks email and surfs the net, then perhaps it would be a waste. But for people who use their computers for a lot of different tasks during the day, it's the single best thing you can do improve the performance of your system.
 
Just go into an Apple store and play with a MBA to see if you think SSD are worth the price and small storage. I certainly don't think so. And you get problems with incompatibility and bugs, unlike a HDD which just works.

And btw, these SSD's are old tech already. The new generation SSD don't have a controller reaching speeds of 1 gb/s which could solve a lot of problems with the current SSD's. Intel is working on one right now.

So SATA III is already going to be limited by the new gen SSD's which are coming. You might just want to wait until SSD's mature a bit. You're paying top dollar for something that is outdated and slow soon.
 
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