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iBee

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Can someone please explain to me, in easy to understand terms, why might someone want to use an app such as Wifi Spoof on a home computer, rather than an iphone, or laptop used frequently in spots using free wifi?

Thank you.
 
Seems I posted that question in the wrong area of forum.
Sorry.

Ok, let me ask this question a different way.

I want to join a forum that contains several "friends" from another forum.
But someone has said that one of the mods/owners of that forum is obtaining the MAC address of peoples devices in order to track + troll them in the initial forum.

What I would like to know is whether this is even possible to do before I sign up, if I do in case it is true.

I have tried to read about this in another thread and can assure you I own my own iMac and several iPads and iPhones, along with 1 MacBook Pro so this is not about a stolen computer. I am simply trying to protect myself. I am not sure if one of the owners is obtaining private info beyond what is needed in order to sign up . I am a networking noob but dont wish to leave myself open to further problems if that rumour is true.

Thank you.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-spoofing.1855258/

Further to this question, if there is a thread, or a section on this forum that will help a noob to learn how to protect who we are beyond our nicknames and email addresses needed to sign into such a forum, I would like to read further.
 
Not yet sure there is truth to that rumour but it had me sit up and think about it further. I dont spend time in forums but I saw someone else suggest spoofing their wifi. I looked that up but to me it seemed to be related more to an iPhone than a personal computer.
Just a whiff of impropriety prevented me from signing up but I realized I had a lot to learn about protecting myself.
I looked up an app called Wifi Spoof but didnt understand why that might protect someones IP or location being discovered.
 
Can someone please explain to me, in easy to understand terms, why might someone want to use an app such as Wifi Spoof on a home computer, rather than an iphone, or laptop used frequently in spots using free wifi?

Thank you.
Can you tell us what you are trying to accomplish? There may be much better ways than a narrow focused app?
 
Wasnt trying to accomplish anything out of the ordinary than to sign up to a forum with an email address but with assurances that my IP or location would not be recorded.
I have since chosen not to join a private forum of university friends but at least one person is not trustworthy and has trolled one or two people from school he did not like.
I saw someone say they needed to use wifispoof but when I looked it up, I was unable to imagine why that would have protected anyone.

I have since chosen not to join but having witnessed a bit of what happened to one person, I realized that I needed to investigate the means in which to remain as private as should be expected.
 
I have since chosen not to join but having witnessed a bit of what happened to one person...
Sounds very wise. Create your own forum and run it the proper way. Friendly atmosphere with good moderators will empty Mr. McMeany's forum right out.

It is very easy to spoof your Mac WiFi address:
Using terminal: sudo ifconfig en0 ether aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
Notes:
  • en0 is my current wifi interface, to find yours: Option + Click on WiFi > Interface Name
  • Address is your default WiFi Mac Address
  • Be sure to change the aa:bb:cc... ect to proper hex. With a little imagination you can troll the troller. For example use something like: DE:AD:BE:EF:BA:BE = DeadBeefBabe ( pretty silly ) or use L33T speak for many, many more

Your IP is probably DHCP issued from your internet provider; it will change from time to time without you knowing it.

IP is not the same as WiFI Mac Address.
 
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Thank you but you lost me after Using terminal but I certainly wish that I knew even one eighth of what you must. Still not clear why I would need to change my Mac WiFi address though. From what I have read, it seems to be geared towards mobile phone usage, if I am right but I am going to have to investigate further. I would be reluctant to join any forum after what I saw one person do to another if someone can locate your home or business address so easily. Aside from a well run forum like this one at Macrumors that couldn't afford to ruin their business with such behaviour.
 
my IP or location would not be recorded
Your IP address will definitely be recorded, because your IP address is, in fact, absolutely necessary to be able to send any data your way.

forum is obtaining the MAC address
No, the MAC address belongs to a different protocol and a different networking layer. A web server can't see your network interface's MAC address. And even if it did, it would be pretty much useless.

Plus, the whole "tracking the IP address" is just Hollywood ********, it doesn't really mean anything.

There is a process called "tracing" that uses a packet's property called TTL to determine the route from your computer to a different computer.
You can give it a try, just run
Code:
traceroute www.google.com
in Terminal. It will print a sequence of nodes your packets have to run through in order to reach Google's servers.
 
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I followed your directions and it seems to have gone through 14 by my count. Interesting. I would like to learn more. Where does someone start? Ok so it appears that the IP address being tracked is a bit of nonsense. Good to know. I thought many people used a VPN service anyhow. Would that not have blocked his location or is that a hollywood theory as well.

It seems I have a lot to learn.
Linux.
That might be my next direction although I would always keep a MBP as I am heavily tied into apple at the moment.
 
I followed your directions and it seems to have gone through 14 by my count. Interesting. I would like to learn more. Where does someone start?
Buy a book and watch many of the very good and free tutorials on WireShark. When you have the basic understandings of networking step up your game with Kali Linux.
 
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