iPad Will an iPad 4 (still under Applecare) run iOS 10?

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  1. California macrumors 68040

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    My beloved top of the line iPad 4 128gb/cellular is still under applecare.

    Running 6.1.3.

    It has iOS 9.3 downloaded. If I upgrade, will it stay on iOS9 or will I have to upgrade it to iOS 10, which could possibly brick it?

    I am tempted to take it in to Apple and see what they can do. The apps I use still work but it's time to upgrade.

    Is it possible to stay on iOS 9 or will the upgrade force me to sign iOS 10?
     
  2. craig1024 macrumors regular

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    iOS 9 is no longer signed by apple so if you update it will be to iOS 10.1.1 you should search youtube for iOS 10 on iPad 4 and see if your happy with the performance in those videos if not I'd say use it on iOS 6 and get a new iPad when you can no longer run the apps you want.
     
  3. Floris macrumors 68020

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    It will be iOS 10, 9 is no longer signed.
    iPad 4 on iOS 10, coming from iOS 6, will be a completely different experience for you. Unless you are familiar with iOS 9/10 via say a phone.

    I think the iPad 4 can run iOS 10, but I think you have to assume there might be somewhat of a performance difference between 6 and 10.
     
  4. California thread starter macrumors 68040

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    If there is a performance lag, I will consider it Apple's fault for allowing it to upgrade too far, and insist on a replacement or a special Apple supervisory downgrade to ios8 or something. Applecare should mean something.
     
  5. Floris macrumors 68020

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    It's not how the real world works, sorry.
     
  6. California thread starter macrumors 68040

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    You do know that there is a way to downgrade iOS's, correct?
     
  7. DanielDD macrumors 6502

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    I have an iPad 4 running iOS 10. It's not a pleasant experience, I can assure you.
    Maybe I'm spoiled by the speed of newer devices, but I found the iPad 4 to significantly degrade performance in iOS 8 and iOS 9. 10.1 is performing similar to iOS 9. However, I notice lag across the board as well as a somewhat unstable OS. Crash rates on that device are probably 20x higher than on my iPhone 6s running the version.

    I would not upgrade. Take care of that iPad because it might me worth some $$ pretty soon. There are not many devices out there running skewmorphic versions of iOS.
     
  8. Mr_Brightside_@ macrumors 68030

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    If they're still being signed.
     
  9. bufffilm, Nov 7, 2016
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    Actually, because he has the 9.3 downloaded (assuming not ota version) are we sure he can't install that. My memory is hazy but I think he can't. But I'm not 100% sure. I believe after 9.3 is on, it will then update to iOS 10 when validating.

    iOS 9.3 paired to ipad4 128gb would be a dream come true. Only 3 classic versions of iPads 'to own' to date...this would be one of them.
     
  10. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    Just update it my friend has it and yes it will stutter here and there but overall it remains a usable experience, if you can handle waiting a extra couple seconds for apps to load but in general people blow the degraded performance way out of the water.
     
  11. Awjvail macrumors 6502

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    Well if that's not the stupidest damn thing I've read all day...
     
  12. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    Yah I'm sorry but 2012 (32bit hardware) running iOS 10 is actually impressive and it runs it really well considering its age. iOS 10 is one of the most optimized and smooth performing iOS versions in a while, better than 9 even. I hope iOS 11 continues the trend.
     
  13. bufffilm Suspended

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    You are barking up the wrong tree.

    That's not why he says the OP said a stupid thing.

    And btw, you are wrong. :)
     
  14. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    Not really I was saying what the op said doesn't even hold water because iOS 10 isn't a poor performer even on the A6 devices. So the op reason that he would use to try and have Apple care replace his iPad would not even work, on top of the fact that Apple Care doesn't cover device "slowdown"
     
  15. California thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Consumers can down grade their iPhone 4's and iPad 2's if they've upgraded too far.

    After that, only Apple can downgrade a device in-house.
    --- Post Merged, Nov 7, 2016 ---
    I'm going to take it in to see why I can't choose my own iOS experience... we'll see.
     
  16. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    Simply because Apple wants you on the newest version. Idk what your expecting to be told.
     
  17. California thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Applecare has to mean something if my machine is usable by upgrading, yet I can't use it on iOS6.
     
  18. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    Isn't on iOS 6 currently, what prevents you from using it now? Most apps have moved to atleast iOS 8 or higher required so I would just upgrade.
     
  19. Agile55 macrumors regular

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    Not doubting DanielDD's experience and a slight lane veer from the OP's question but my iP4 on iOS10 has run well since I downloaded it on the first day that it was available.

    Some minor issues but overall the experience has been very + & if I had to do it over again I wouldn't hesitate.

    AAYMMV applies, I'm but a sample of one but my beater iP4 w/ iOS10 on it has been a solid performer alongside my iP7+ & my 9.7" iPP.
     
  20. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    You can always get better performance by turning off background app refresh , spotlight search for all apps, and disable wallpaper parallax
     
  21. Mr_Brightside_@ macrumors 68030

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    When have they done this?
     
  22. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    They haven't he's smokin something :)
     
  23. California thread starter macrumors 68040

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    They have the ability to do this; iow it is not impossible to downgrade a device after an iOS update bricks your handheld.
     
  24. bufffilm Suspended

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    What?...you mean the part about "it will be Apple's fault for allowing me to upgrade too far" that he said wasn't clue enough that he's off his rocker?

    Funny 'cause he started the thread out innocently enough...
     
  25. gobikerider macrumors 68020

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    If your device is bricked even the best they can do is is a DFU restore to iOS 10
     

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