Will app size be larger because of Retina?

iMaven

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I was wondering if the size of some of the apps will be larger to accommodate Retina or will they be the same size? Anyone know?
 

iMaven

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Yes, I am an app developer, but i haven't optimized my apps yet, but when I went from the 3GS to the 4 the size did increase a bit
I'm thinking the 1080p movies will be a lot larger, so I was thinking the apps would be a lot larger too.
 

Michael CM1

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Macworld posted an article that did some detailing about this:

http://www.macworld.com/article/165797/2012/03/retina_display_ready_apps_and_the_coming_ipad_storage_crunch.html

(Try not to vomit when the author mentions the iPad's "hard drive." I can't believe a computer magazine would hire someone dumb enough to write that.)

The short answer is "of course!" This makes my decision to get a 64GB iPad 2 last year even smarter since I'm selling it to my dad. I have a 16GB iPhone 4S, and it's KILLING ME.

If you're going to do more than the basic email, Internet and a few simple apps, 16GB is cuh-razy.
 

iMaven

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Keynote went from 115MB to 327MB; Numbers increased from 109MB to 283MB, and Pages went from 95MB to 269MB. With the exception of iMovie (which also added in new support for iMovie Trailers as it ballooned from 70MB to 404MB), these apps increased their file sizes by a factor between 2.5 and 3. (iMovie is nearly six times larger than before.)

A smaller app like Tweetbot, for example, will reportedly grow from 8.8MB to 24.6MB. Larger, graphically intense games that weigh in between 300MB and 500MB today will likely require 750MB to 1.5GB once they update their art assets.
Thanks for the article. It was very informative. These are pretty large jumps in storage space usage and may reduce the number of apps people download to their iPads...especially games.
 

MythicFrost

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Yes they will be larger, but we don't know by how much.
I'm thinking the 1080p movies will be a lot larger, so I was thinking the apps would be a lot larger too.
What 1080p movies? The 1080p movies on iTunes are only 10-15% larger than the 720p movies, because of H.264 4.0 compression.
 

TopToffee

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Yes they will be larger, but we don't know by how much.

What 1080p movies? The 1080p movies on iTunes are only 10-15% larger than the 720p movies, because of H.264 4.0 compression.
Be glad you can actually GET 1080p movies on the iTunes store...

Here in the UK, some of the tv shows have moved, but the movies are all still 720 :(
 

G77

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Retina Apps size grow

iMovie: 70MB to 404MB, Keynote: 115MB to 327MB, Numbers: 109MB to 283MB, Pages: 95MB to 269MB, TweetBot: 8.8MB to 24,6MB etc...
 

MythicFrost

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Be glad you can actually GET 1080p movies on the iTunes store...

Here in the UK, some of the tv shows have moved, but the movies are all still 720 :(
Australians don't :(

In fact, we recently only got 720p available to purchase... six months to a year ago, maybe. I've got a lot of movies all in SD :(
 

sammich

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Sarcasmville.
'Retina' means 'higher resolution'. Higher resolution = more information. More information = more space. This generally only applies to images. Every app's usage of images varies, so a low image app or even a non image app wouldn't increase very much at all. High artwork apps such as games will moreorless take up a lot more room.
 

HelveticaNeue

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So why didn't they make the ipad3's 32G,64G, & 128G??
Money would seem to be the obvious reason. The cost of the new iPad materials will be higher than previous generations. I assume they had to pick and choose where to cut corners: memory and FaceTime cameras, being two.

Personally, I am fine with their choice.
 

JUiCEJamie

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iMovie: 70MB to 404MB, Keynote: 115MB to 327MB, Numbers: 109MB to 283MB, Pages: 95MB to 269MB, TweetBot: 8.8MB to 24,6MB etc...
I know Apple updated their own apps the other night.. so are these the new file sizes published in the App Store?

:O
 

iMaven

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So why didn't they make the ipad3's 32G,64G, & 128G??
Probably because of cost. Maybe next year will have 128GB because consumers have been waiting for it, including me. They just might be setting us up for that because Apple is offering a16GB model for $399 & $529. Next year they might just offer the 3 you mentioned, plus a 16GB version. If that happens, then I'll be upgrading the following year. I like being on the first cycle of upgrades instead of the second cycle.

I know Apple updated their own apps the other night.. so are these the new file sizes published in the App Store?

:O
yes, they are new file sizes listed in the App Store.