Will apple come out w/ a HD pocket camcorder?

Discussion in 'Digital Video' started by amycishere, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. amycishere macrumors 6502

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    I was thinking they could call it the ishoot. lol. Sony, Samsung, etc, all have them so why not Apple? I am very excited about these because you can use them w/ one hand and I do not have good use of two because of my disability. My left hand is my good one so I've never been able to use a regular camera and excited about the quality HD camcorder's bring.
     
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    These kind of cameras already exist. Get a flip camera or something. Apple doesn't need to expand their range of products any further than they already have. :rolleyes:
     
  4. lionheartednyhc macrumors 65816

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    They just did on monday. try to keep up.
     
  5. amycishere thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Um, yes, I knew this was talking about a camcorder.
     
  6. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    and the point is that iPhone 4 is the closest you'll get with Apple and an HD camcorder.
     
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    Um, what's the difference between an iPhone that takes HD video or a flip-style cam that takes HD video?

    Oh yeah, the iPhone also works as a phone, iPod, and web browser, has email, text messaging, and runs apps. Why would Apple produce a stand-alone video camera? The question is kinda dumb.
     
  9. jaw04005 macrumors 601

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    Jobs said they were not going into the camcorder business fairly recently.
     
  10. UltraNEO* macrumors 601

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    Depending on the age and model, most "flip-style" it'll tend to shoot in Full HD, typically 1920 x 1080i/p at 60fps and able to capture video at 24Mbps.

    Where as the iPhone 4 only shoots in what they refer to as Standard HD, usually 1280 × 720i/p, doubt it'll manage 50/60fps or achieve high quality video footages... Basically it's far, far, far away from a dedicated video camera.
     
  11. handsome pete macrumors 68000

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    "Full HD" is really a misnomer and marketing term. 720p is HD.

    1080p and 1080i are two completely different things. I'm unaware of many "flip-style" cameras that shoot 1080p 60fps. That's usually a feature found in high en cameras. Then again, I'm not really positive what you are referring to when you say "flip-style." Like the flip camera? They shoot 720p, like the iphone will.
     
  12. UltraNEO* macrumors 601

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    Hmm... well, this has a flip and shoots 1080p@60... I'd hardly call it a "high en cameras"
    http://www.slashgear.com/sanyo-xacti-2009-camcorder-range-unveiled-1080p-60fps-hdx-2000-2131430/
     
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    Right after they come out with alarm clocks and digital picture frames. Seriously, Apple is about all about convergence, not divergence.
     
  14. Full of Win macrumors 68030

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    Apple has really sent mixed signals on this. Back in the day before 720p content was on iTunes, Apple sold 20, 23 and 30 inch ACD. However, only the 23 and 30 were labeled as 'HD' because they had more than 1080 lines. The 20 inch was not labeled as HD, because it had 1680 lines IIRC. However, when the technology and bandwidth only allows 720p and not 1080p content to be delivered and used on iDevices (Apple TV, iPad, iPhone 4), then all of the sudden 720 is HD.

    As far as I'm concerned, 720p is ED, no matter how much Apple what to up-sell it as HD.
     
  15. handsome pete macrumors 68000

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    Well the problem with your argument is that Apple doesn't set the standards for HD. 720p has always been an HD standard resolution and will continue to be.

    HD content was around long before iTunes content. According to you, half of HD television owners don't own an HD tv because its native resolution is 1280x720. You're also trying to say that all HDTVs purchased before 1080p was even available aren't really HDTVs either. Or what about broadcasts that aren't 1080p? Do you consider 1080i HD?

    Simply put, Apple has nothing to do with what HD is. It's organizations like ATSC and others that do. And 720p was set as one of the original standards.
     
  16. handsome pete macrumors 68000

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    Interesting. But I'd still imagine that most "low en cameras" don't have a 60fps 1080p. Hell, most pro cameras i know of don't. My point was basically that 60fps at 1080p isn't really common on any video camera and shouldn't really be in the discussion of features that make a quality stand alone camera.
     
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    Don't see it happening.

    The iPhone 4 will double as their HD pocket camcorder since it can shoot at 720p.
     
  18. UltraNEO* macrumors 601

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    It's still not common on TV's yet...but like everything new, it'll take time to filter through.
     
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    It is not Apples philosophz to make a number of different single purpose devices but instead a small number of neutral-hardware devices with a large number of singe purpose software. So in other words, there won't be a dedicated enclosure, dedicated cpu, dedicated battery, dedicated lens and dedicated screen sold as a "camcorder". Thats not Apple.
     
  20. PeterQVenkman macrumors 68020

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    Semantics. 720p is clearly not as high definition as 1080p. The term "full HD" (or HD ready 1080p in Europe) although a marketing term, exists for a good reason, IMO. There has to be a simple way for the general public to tell them apart.

    Fantastic. And like 480p, it is a lesser standard, even if it is labeled HD.

    [​IMG]

    720 is labeled HD, I'll give you that. But one is clearly greater than the other.


    Some Xacti $400 cameras fill in 1080p. Haven't seen any 1080p Flip cameras yet.
     
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    You missed my point. I never said 720p was just as good as 1080p. The post I originally replied to claimed that 720p should be considered ED. That's just wrong.

    The problem with the term "Full HD" is that it doesn't simplify things at all. I believe it actually misinforms people more often than not. It was a term created to market to the population that really won't know the difference anyway. Instead they just hear "Full HD" and think "I need that."
     
  23. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    I constantly amazes me that people don't like primary sources. If you had gone to Sanyo's website (a primary source), then you would know that Slashgear.com is simply wrong. These little camcorders are not capable of recording 1080/60p. They can do 1080/30p or 1080/60i. Nowhere does Sanyo claim that they can do 1080/60p.
     

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