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Tig Bitties

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One thing I do like about Android, is the ability to " Theme" the phone. Android has had this option for years with custom ROM's, but more recently official Theme stores from Samsung and HTC are being the norm, and I really like it. My Note 5 looks lame with the boring Touchwiz interface, but apply the free " Material Dark" theme, and it transforms the phone dramatically in look and style, making it night and day better looking IMO.

Do you think this is something maybe Apple may add in iOS 10 ?
 
The issue with themes is though they may change most of the stock icons and even some third party ones, 99.99% of apps you download from the app store would stick out like a sore thumb on your home screen with any type of theme installed.
 
Themes will happen when the tiled-icon home screen is made obsolete.

I think they'll someday bring the same framework as the Apple Watch faces to the new iPhone main screen.
 
And users ask all the time why there is any need to jailbreak anymore. LOL!

I already have a dark theme. Eclipse 3.
 
Themes would fall into the category of things that would significantly change the way the phone operates making it harder for Apple employees to check for all possible problematic use cases. Generally for Apple, If it's going to make support harder or if it's going to make it harder for the customer to understand, then it's probably not going to get done. While splitting off from the Apple pack is nice, it doesn't help Apple's bottom line. That being said, jailbreaking is a great way to take advantage of these types of functions. There's a good reason why Apple doesn't support jailbroken phones (unless it's a hardware issue now). There are too many possible use cases to make it supportable, but if you know what you're doing and are willing to google your issues, jailbreaking is great.
 
Themes would fall into the category of things that would significantly change the way the phone operates making it harder for Apple employees to check for all possible problematic use cases. Generally for Apple, If it's going to make support harder or if it's going to make it harder for the customer to understand, then it's probably not going to get done. While splitting off from the Apple pack is nice, it doesn't help Apple's bottom line. That being said, jailbreaking is a great way to take advantage of these types of functions. There's a good reason why Apple doesn't support jailbroken phones (unless it's a hardware issue now). There are too many possible use cases to make it supportable, but if you know what you're doing and are willing to google your issues, jailbreaking is great.
In other words, Apple doesn't want it's customers getting out of line because it inconveniences their support personnel and costs them time and money.

So everyone has to fit into the same narrow GUI box. Hey customer! Wallpaper and icon placement only!

I agree with your assessment by the way, just don't care for the reasons.

I think this is also why Apple seems to be moving this direction with OS X. Already El Capitan prevents you from modifying some of the underlying UNIX folders - even as a root user. I see a future where OS X will be like iOS in this regard.
 
In other words, Apple doesn't want it's customers getting out of line because it inconveniences their support personnel and costs them time and money.

So everyone has to fit into the same narrow GUI box. Hey customer! Wallpaper and icon placement only!

I agree with your assessment by the way, just don't care for the reasons.

I think this is also why Apple seems to be moving this direction with OS X. Already El Capitan prevents you from modifying some of the underlying UNIX folders - even as a root user. I see a future where OS X will be like iOS in this regard.

I hope that Apple continues to allow us to turn this feature off. I wish that they still left the ability to do permissions checks for users who want to turn it off. With it turned off, OS X is a really customizable OS. I've been able to do everything from external graphics cards over thunderbolt, to installing my own software to /usr, and editing plist files to do cool stuff. It's all still possible right now, but their future decisions with OS X will be the deciding factor for myself and a future with Apple's platform. Macs have traditionally been pretty customizable with OS X due to its underlying UNIX roots.
 
I hope that Apple continues to allow us to turn this feature off. I wish that they still left the ability to do permissions checks for users who want to turn it off. With it turned off, OS X is a really customizable OS. I've been able to do everything from external graphics cards over thunderbolt, to installing my own software to /usr, and editing plist files to do cool stuff. It's all still possible right now, but their future decisions with OS X will be the deciding factor for myself and a future with Apple's platform. Macs have traditionally been pretty customizable with OS X due to its underlying UNIX roots.
I totally agree with you. Most of my Macs are PowerPC and the ability to modify things so that I have a customized theme all my own is something I derive satisfaction from. The same with Snow Leopard on my one Intel Mac.

The MacPro I have at work runs Yosemite and has less options. There are a number of things I detest about it. The SIP in El Capitan along with a few other things are holding me back on upgrading. If the version of OS X after El Capitan is even more locked down then for me I think I may be looking at Linux systems in the future. I'd switch to Windows but I'm not keen on the idea of forced upgrades and 'security features' you can't turn off.
 
Do you see how long it took Apple to give us the drop down notification screen? Add about 7 or 10 more years to that before they give us themes too, lol. :D
 
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